Wow dude....You have some unresolved manliness issues. Hope you get it worked out..

Maybe it's because the s2000 and a miata look identical to me that it's hard to see a guy driving it. But there are just some cars that are chick cars, and IN MY OPINION this happens to be one. You have the Celica, the Sunfire, the Neon, and the s2000. lol

I mean if Modshack wants to drive one that's fine... he's secure in his manhood. I know someone that can hook him up with a flashy rainbow sticker as well.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. :rolleyes:

Before I saw a 370z, I wanted the S2000 to be my next car. Black or Dark Blue with a hard top and of course I'd get it turbo'd/tuned.

Ever since I got next to a pearl white 370z sport, it changed my mind.

I haven't driven either, but I can understand where people come from each perspective of those cars.

S2000 is more nimble, you feel more in control of the car(go cart feel like others have said), but the 370z is everything else. I bet I would love the feel of the S2000, but I'd trade a little control for more power, a little better looks and interior room.

To say the S2000 is a woman's car, most ignorant statement ever. Maybe a stock baby blue AP1 can be considered that, but the S2k was made to be a track car.

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_...0026_large.jpg definitely a woman's car.....

both are nice cars. Do you want to spend <$25k for a S2K or >$25k for a 370z? Pretty much what it would come down to since you can't go wrong with either.

You're a Poseur, not a car enthusiast, and Yes, I'm secure enough to have owned 3 Miata's....

Yeah, it is ignorant....But there's a lot of car bigotry around here (unfortunately)

Seriously, do people not see the S2k's and Miata's for what they are? They're handling cars that go fast, not fast cars that try to handle. In no way would I call either of them a woman's car. Raw track cars if you ask me. The Z is more of a mix between power and handling of course. But doesn't excel in either spectrum compared to the handling of a miata/s2k or power of a big v8.

I couldn't agree more. I test drove the S2000 before I purchased my Roadster. I felt like Stewart Little in the S2000, with my body sticking way out. (I am 6 foot and 210 lbs.) The Roadster just fits me better. A lady I work with is having a similar mid-life crisis and she bought an S2000. She looks great in it.

Are you saying you're too wide for the car or too tall? Because plenty for 6'2"-6'3" drivers can fit the s2000 just fine.

I like the S200 , but there is only so much you can do with 162lbs of torque

could always turbo it if you want more torque. You can easily get around 300ft lb torque from a turbo s2k.

I've driven plenty of AP2 S2000's and none felt like they were really "lacking torque". The AP2's pull pretty well from 4500rpms all the way up to 8200rpms. You also got to consider the low curb weight (~ 2800lbs or about 450lbs lighter than a 370z) and World class 6 speed manual transmissions. The optimal height / weight for being able to truly enjoy an S2k are probably between 5’6 – 5’10 and 120-165lbs; it wasn’t designed for big fat Americans obviously. I suppose one might be bitter (because they are great cars) if they don’t fit well in one but that’s no reason to call it a “girls car”.

Yeah...My Buddy, at 6' and 200 lbs, looks nothing lke a chick. His car doesn't run like a chick car either....

http://images116.fotki.com/v710/phot...1010441-vi.jpg

Yeah, keyword "FIT" that doesn't mean their going to be comfortable and enjoy the ride.

I remember back in the day when my room mate and I went to test drive an S2K. He's like 6'2- 6'3 and had to bend his neck sideways just fit in; he was cramped all to hell. Me being just 5'9 fit in the S2k like a glove and enjoyed driving it. The S2K definitely isn’t for everyone when it concerns being able to accommodate.

ok let me break it down for you. I've gone on many other forums to read user experiences. If you're that tall, move the seat forward a click or two and angle the seat back to lean, so you're not sitting straight up looking all stiff.

Many people over 6' fit COMFORTABLY.

I'm 6 2 and I fit in that car just fine. No bending of the kneck.

No, I did not need to bend my neck, but I felt strange with the top down like my entire body was on display. (Not a pretty sight either.) Also, I have broad shoulders and it felt more like a coach airplane seat. The 370Z roadster had better proportions to my body size and the seat felt much better. The seat was tight enough to keep me in position while cornering, but not too restrictive for everyday driving.

That is the key for me, this is my everyday ride to work. I felt like the S2000 would not be as comfortable.

Of course, I am biased. I love the Z. I smile every time I drive, even going to work in the morning.

You should re-read my post... the comparison WAS between the 350Z and the S2K (both 2004 ragtops).

http://www.the370z.com/new-370z-owne...nda-s2000.html

Some good stuff in this thread on S2000 vs 370Z.

"Let you break it down for me"? Break what down? My roommate at 6'2 -6'3 DID NOT sit COMFORTABLY in an S2K. The S2K wasn't designed to accommodate large / tall American body’s period. The perfect physique for an S2K is around 5'8-5'9 and 150lbs or so. People as big as my roommate (6’3 @220+lbs) don't fit well in S2K's with the top up no matter how hard you try. It was hilarious looking at my roommate driving that thing (S2K)! He just looked so retarded in that little roadster!

LOL... this thread is still going on..

Easily? You must have missed my post where I said my friends turbo s2k put down 198rwtq

I've owned both and I must say I agree with the statements of handling and power between the 370Z and the S2K. HOWEVER, when it comes to modding the 370 has a long way to go. Boosted 370Z's are no match for boosted S2K's.

how how HP was getting to the wheels? Crank the psi up, may require lower compression pistons too, but with around 400whp you should be getting around 300rwtq.

inthezone- you're a civic owner. you're forgetting your primary weapon. NOS!

...or wait, was that too soon to use? (how did that line go? too soon son?) did vtec kick in yet? do you like sushi?

lol not sure what quote you're referring to, but

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/4...74bd9674db.jpg

and Rick Yune(guy in pic in s2000) is 6'1", he had no trouble getting in, out, or moving around in his s2000. Sure he's not a heavy build, but his height didn't hurt him in this "smaller" car.

I've test drive a 08 s2 before I bought my base 370z w.sports pkg. To me, the s2 didn't even come close when comparing with 370z. Some how I was feeling a little un-safe riding in the s2, I felt like if I ever get hit on the road, I would get crush. Yes, the s2 might handles alittle better but I just can't say no to the pure raw power of the z.

:rofl2: are you insane? im hoping you meant that the other way around:ugh2:

No I'm not. Right now there are 750+ WHP S2Ks on STOCK INTERNALS with only a 3mm head gasket to lower the compression ratio. Show me a Z, any Z that can do that. Not to mention the fact that the S2K is about 400lbs less. Please go do some research before commenting on the subject.

I'd be under the assumption that 750hp S2k's aren't the norm lol

The F20 will NOT make that kind of power on a stock block, i dont care what resource this is coming from. Reliably 400 MAYBE, and thats a very big MAYBE. Reliability and peak power go hand in hand, a VQ37 could make 800whp, reliably? nope.

and please, show me some factual evidence of this before you begin your rant, and no, a "My buddy knows a guy" wont work, and a referral to another forum wont either.

Yea, I'm in agreement with Red on this one. If people were running those numbers on stock internals the S2k would NOT be out of production.

stock internals:
Video: Smoking Hot 701-WHP Turbocharged Honda S2000 - Carscoop

here's a link to the first video to the above link since the initial site wouldn't let me click on anything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emwrIVZ9gA4

and just to rub it in, not sure what engine mods it has, but still:
YouTube - InlinePRO S2000 Wheel Stand - north carolina

I've driven both S2k / 370Z and didn't feel like the 07' S2k (AP2) was really lacking in power at all. The S2K actually didn't feel much if any slower and was more fun to drive vs. the 370Z. The 370Z's suspension doesn't seem as stiff so I'd imagine it might make for a better DD / road trip car. I'm trying to decide between the two my self. It's really hard to resist not getting an S2k now especially considering they're selling for so cheap with so few miles. For 20k you can get one in great condition with fewer than 20k miles. Then you could add a turbo / supercharger kit (5-6k) and the sky's the limit. For around 25k you got one badass car. Not saying the 370z isn’t nice or anything just looking at options and there's no denying the S2k is one hell of a proven / blast to drive sports car.

I love the driver focussed cockpit:
http://www.autospectator.com/cars/fi...s/s2000int.jpg
http://www.japanesesportcars.com/pho...0-sema09-6.JPG
http://www.japanesesportcars.com/pho...-sema09-11.JPG
http://www.japanesesportcars.com/pho...0-sema09-9.JPG

Zeto is right, go check out the Inlinepro s2000 and the s2000 from hell on youtube and internetz.
Hopefully we will soon be seeing numbers as high or higher in your vq37s :tup:

edit:didnt see that InTheZone already posted vids...my bad

ok, im not debating that it made the power, however, that engine will not hold that power for more than a week, its a dyno queen and thats it, the F20C engine has cast rods, they will not stand up to that kind of force, its not physically possible. You can show me videos all day long, I want to see that car do 5 back to back passes on the strip and see how it fares, my guess, destroyed block.

Those S2K's were sick in those vids, but 23 pounds ouch!!!! Honda or not I cant see that car living that long. Then only thing I figure is 99% of the time he is running around with 8 pounds and only cranks it up to run a bike or something crazy like that.

:iagree: that kind of power cannot be sustained on stock internals, probably runs very low boost everywhere BUT the dyno.

The point is Red370, that a boosted 370 is no match for a boosted S2K. Thanks my fellow members for showing him the light :tup:

and what exactly is your logic behind this? because one dyno queen S2000 had a solid pull? c'mon man really? :ugh2:

No, the point is that you said a boosted S cannot beat a boosted Z all things beng equal.

First you said it couldn't do it. Now you say it can beat the Z but only once. I have 2 of my personal friends that DAILY drive 700+whp S2K's with stock internals. I have done my research and witnessed this personally, have you?