What did you do with your Z today

onzedge · 08-18-2011, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc

is the clutch spring something that can be DIY? My Z is my only manual car so I don't really know any other clutch feeling. Might just keep it stock..

It is absolutely DIY -- about a 5 to 10 minute job.

Nick911sc · 08-18-2011, 12:32 PM

I know it's been covered a few times. But what exactly are the benefits? More feel to the clutch travel instead of just a numb clutch in and clutch out without really knowing where the friction point is?

BeachZTT · 08-18-2011, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Deadman

Installed f.I. tdx cb ! Well did this lastnight, and I'm loving it ! Intake , hfc, oil cooler, and tune shud b next

Very nice!!! Enjoy...

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Originally Posted by Fire

Kewl deadman enjoy your ride.

Today I installed my smart top. Once again something Nissan should have done at the factory. Soo many kewl things I can do with my key fob now

Also got my garage door to work from my car. Programming these things are tricky sometimes. Got the car detailed and wind deflector tinted yesterday. Today going to a big cruise night at Twin Lakes Drive In in Perry NY. Things are looking Z for me today

Jealous! I want that mod!

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Originally Posted by kenchan

^^ sounds like fun, Fire!

yah, i hate programming those garage door openers with rolling codes. i keep forgetting how i did it last time.

Yep, I had to break out the book to do mine too.

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Originally Posted by onzedge

I drove my 370 for the first time in a week today -- also the first real drive with my new clutch return spring. I am liking it quite a bit. If you have not done this mod, you must (auto trans guys need not apply).

For all interested, I am talking to the G/B OP and AK to try and work out additional group buy/s on this spring.

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc

is the clutch spring something that can be DIY? My Z is my only manual car so I don't really know any other clutch feeling. Might just keep it stock..

Definately a DIY. If this is your first manual, you need to do it just so you can feel what a clutch SHOULD feel like!!!

If you decide to go back to the stock spring, it is just as easy.

Nick911sc · 08-18-2011, 12:45 PM

Is there a DIY thread anywhere for the spring? Curious to see what has to be done in order to install it.

onzedge · 08-18-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc

Is there a DIY thread anywhere for the spring? Curious to see what has to be done in order to install it.

Clutch Helper Spring

Nick911sc · 08-18-2011, 01:11 PM

Thanks!!

What's the cost for one of those springs? Can I get one myself? I'm such a wimp I might not even want to do the mod in fear of me damaging something haha

BeachZTT · 08-18-2011, 01:18 PM

Oh, and on the shifter issue. I really hadn't thought about the heat/cold part. I guess because I have never had a metal shifter before. Great point!

I am still partial to the shape, feel, and material of the Z32TT shifter...

BeachZTT · 08-18-2011, 01:22 PM

Nick, the reason that we are trying to get another group buy together is that we have been unable to find anyone to sell that spring in a low quantity for a reasonable price. If we do a group buy, it will be between 15-20 bucks shipped. If you try to order one, they charge almost 60 with setup fees and shipping. If a reputable, existing vendor would buy a large quantity of them, it wouldn't be an issue. Right now, no one stocks them.

Alchemy · 08-18-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BeachZTT

Oh, and on the shifter issue. I really hadn't thought about the heat/cold part. I guess because I have never had a metal shifter before. Great point!

I am still partial to the shape, feel, and material of the Z32TT shifter...

I used to love that knob in my z32!

Nick911sc · 08-18-2011, 01:41 PM

So I'm curious, other cars I've felt the clutch on that were manual, when you engage and disengage there's a part in the clutch travel where the clutch travel has a totally different "stiffness" to the clutch past a certain point. Is that what this is going to add?

onzedge · 08-18-2011, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc

So I'm curious, other cars I've felt the clutch on that were manual, when you engage and disengage there's a part in the clutch travel where the clutch travel has a totally different "stiffness" to the clutch past a certain point. Is that what this is going to add?

You are basically right. The stock clutch feel is "soft" all the way through travel (my opinion) and it makes it difficult to feel when the clutch takes up. The spring upgrade provides a stiffer, and more sensitive, feel.

kenchan · 08-18-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by onzedge

I drove my 370 for the first time in a week today -- also the first real drive with my new clutch return spring. I am liking it quite a bit. If you have not done this mod, you must (auto trans guys need not apply).

ive not had a chance to pull out that spring yet. wish those springs were readily available... maybe i should just use a rubber band.

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Originally Posted by Fire

Onze can't I put the springs on the torque converter? Or maybe on the paddle shifters? Has to be a way to make this mod work LOL

hahaha!

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc

is the clutch spring something that can be DIY? My Z is my only manual car so I don't really know any other clutch feeling. Might just keep it stock..

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc

Thanks!!

What's the cost for one of those springs? Can I get one myself? I'm such a wimp I might not even want to do the mod in fear of me damaging something haha

it's kind of a back breaker ordeal under there but im sure you can manage.

ive not done mine (yet?).

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc

So I'm curious, other cars I've felt the clutch on that were manual, when you engage and disengage there's a part in the clutch travel where the clutch travel has a totally different "stiffness" to the clutch past a certain point. Is that what this is going to add?

yah, the Z's clutch pedal action is very linear. which kinda throws us oldskool MT drivers off. it's nowhere near as bad as the old STI clutches where it felt like a springy rubberband.

onzedge · 08-18-2011, 02:02 PM

Hello Mr Kenchan. I think you need 3 rubberbands to make it work.

BeachZTT · 08-18-2011, 02:02 PM

Sup kenchanman?

Nick911sc · 08-18-2011, 02:10 PM

I originally learned to drive stick on my dads 1978 porsche 911sc and the cabled clutch on that thing gives a super over exaggeration of what I'd assume the pedal will feel like. That clutch is heavier than anything else I've driven before.

08-18-2011, 01:18 PM	#5272 (permalink)
BeachZTT Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 746 Drives: '10 BC ZR T/S/Nav Rep Power: 17	Oh, and on the shifter issue. I really hadn't thought about the heat/cold part. I guess because I have never had a metal shifter before. Great point! I am still partial to the shape, feel, and material of the Z32TT shifter... __________________ '10 ZR Black Cherry Sport/Touring/Nav, Swift Springs, Stillen G3s, 15mm-F 20mm-R Spacers, SPC, Spoiler Solutions Rear Wing, Stubby Antenna

08-18-2011, 01:22 PM	#5273 (permalink)
BeachZTT Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 746 Drives: '10 BC ZR T/S/Nav Rep Power: 17	Nick, the reason that we are trying to get another group buy together is that we have been unable to find anyone to sell that spring in a low quantity for a reasonable price. If we do a group buy, it will be between 15-20 bucks shipped. If you try to order one, they charge almost 60 with setup fees and shipping. If a reputable, existing vendor would buy a large quantity of them, it wouldn't be an issue. Right now, no one stocks them. __________________ '10 ZR Black Cherry Sport/Touring/Nav, Swift Springs, Stillen G3s, 15mm-F 20mm-R Spacers, SPC, Spoiler Solutions Rear Wing, Stubby Antenna

08-18-2011, 02:02 PM	#5278 (permalink)
onzedge A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Battle Lake MN Age: 63 Posts: 183,964 Drives: 370Z 240Z Rep Power: 2684736	Hello Mr Kenchan. I think you need 3 rubberbands to make it work. __________________ Koni\|Swift\|Michelin\|Motordyne\|Berk\|RJM Performance\|Gates\|SPL\|Motul\|Technafit\|Ate Super Blue\|Hawk Tommy Kaira\|Momo\|Optima\|Hella\|Hotchkis\|Red Line\|ZSpeed\|Stillen\|B&M\|H&R

08-18-2011, 02:02 PM	#5279 (permalink)
BeachZTT Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 746 Drives: '10 BC ZR T/S/Nav Rep Power: 17	Sup kenchanman? __________________ '10 ZR Black Cherry Sport/Touring/Nav, Swift Springs, Stillen G3s, 15mm-F 20mm-R Spacers, SPC, Spoiler Solutions Rear Wing, Stubby Antenna

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08-18-2011, 12:32 PM	#5267 (permalink)
Nick911sc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,698 Drives: 2010 Nissan GT-R Rep Power: 20	I know it's been covered a few times. But what exactly are the benefits? More feel to the clutch travel instead of just a numb clutch in and clutch out without really knowing where the friction point is?

08-18-2011, 12:45 PM	#5269 (permalink)
Nick911sc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,698 Drives: 2010 Nissan GT-R Rep Power: 20	Is there a DIY thread anywhere for the spring? Curious to see what has to be done in order to install it.

08-18-2011, 01:11 PM	#5271 (permalink)
Nick911sc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,698 Drives: 2010 Nissan GT-R Rep Power: 20	Thanks!! What's the cost for one of those springs? Can I get one myself? I'm such a wimp I might not even want to do the mod in fear of me damaging something haha

08-18-2011, 01:41 PM	#5275 (permalink)
Nick911sc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,698 Drives: 2010 Nissan GT-R Rep Power: 20	So I'm curious, other cars I've felt the clutch on that were manual, when you engage and disengage there's a part in the clutch travel where the clutch travel has a totally different "stiffness" to the clutch past a certain point. Is that what this is going to add?

08-18-2011, 02:10 PM	#5280 (permalink)
Nick911sc A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 1,698 Drives: 2010 Nissan GT-R Rep Power: 20	I originally learned to drive stick on my dads 1978 porsche 911sc and the cabled clutch on that thing gives a super over exaggeration of what I'd assume the pedal will feel like. That clutch is heavier than anything else I've driven before.