Custom Machined Parts For Your 370Z

m4a1mustang · 06-18-2010, 08:26 AM

The Z store's emblems are injected molded plastic, so I'm pretty sure these will be a bit more expensive than those...

wheee! · 06-18-2010, 09:31 AM

Having said that, the Z STore plastic badges are over priced as well....

I would see these emblemz going for about $200 - $250 a set taking into consideration a volume production run of around 1000 sets. More than that will reduce sales, less would not be cost effective. Leave them as "unfinished" but properly cut, drilled and tapped for installation. Everyone will customize them further. I know I will...

LinPark · 06-18-2010, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wheee!

Having said that, the Z STore plastic badges are over priced as well....

I would see these emblemz going for about $200 - $250 a set taking into consideration a volume production run of around 1000 sets. More than that will reduce sales, less would not be cost effective. Leave them as "unfinished" but properly cut, drilled and tapped for installation. Everyone will customize them further. I know I will...

Who's fronting the near $200,000 for that first production run?

I can PayPal my money whenever you're ready!

Modshack · 06-18-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee!

I would see these emblemz going for about $200 - $250 a set taking into consideration a volume production run of around 1000 sets.

Wow...1000 sets? I think that is wildly optimistic...

m4a1mustang · 06-18-2010, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Wow...1000 sets? I think that is wildly optimistic...

Yep. A more accurate initial sale is probably between 15-25 sets.

kenchan · 06-18-2010, 01:37 PM

woah, price just went up to $16K for the set.

Modshack · 06-18-2010, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Yep. A more accurate initial sale is probably between 15-25 sets.

I agree....BTDT....

I have a friend who came up with a really slick Audi TT interior piece, priced around $50. He was so confident, he made up 100... 4 years later he still has 85 taking up space in a closet..

wheee! · 06-18-2010, 01:44 PM

Well, let's take a poll! Complete set versus front or rear only. I am sure that we could generate enough interest in at least 100 sets. I will buy one set for sure.

WarmAndSCSI · 06-18-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ

Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) search - cpb.gov

Be careful. The Z logo is a protected trademark. Once you mass produce those for resale w/o permission from the license holder, you're going to open yourself up to at least a Cease and Desist letter. Then you'll find out that someone will take your idea and have the Chinese mass produce it, smuggle it in, sell it, which means they're trafficking in counterfeit goods (among other violations).

While the fact that you have a good idea and can do it with garage tools is great if applying it to your car to make it unique, mass producing it is a whole new ball game.

I'm not a copyright lawyer by any stretch, but I think they're fine on this since the actual trademark is written to be only the number 370 + Z. Through that search, I don't see any trademark on just the "Z" name. However, since this is so similar to other renditions of the "Z" logo (which are inherently copyrighted), that could pose some issues if Nissan really decided to pursue it.

frost · 06-18-2010, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AgStacker

yes, I think selling the badge unfinished is a good idea, just because I want everyone to be able to make it look how THEY want it to look.

But for my personal badges I'm defiantly going to have them professionally finished.

Do you know if the heat from the powder coating will affect the anodize?

There would really be no reason I can think of to do both anodizing and powder coating. The benefits of anodizing a part (color, scratch resistance, strengthening, and protection from elements, including sunlight, rain, chemicals, etc) are pretty much rendered useless if a powder coating is applied on top of it.

Powder coating will provide all these benefits, with the exception of actually strengthening the aluminum alloy, and you will have more options of colors, and the colors will be more consistent.

Since the aluminum will not be in some sort of high abuse area, I actually think PC will be a better option for your particular application.

But to answer your question, anodize coatings, no matter how thick are still subject to cracking (known as crazing in the biz) under extreme temperatures because of the coefficient of expansion in aluminum (aluminum oxide is hard and brittle, the base metal is soft and malleable). So I would probably pick one or the other.

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-18-2010, 02:27 PM

Don't know if it was already mentioned but... The auto tranny can use some cool aftermarket shift knobs... n if u can get your hand on some leather. You can give the auto that manual look as well along with the ebrake. I think that would sell like hot cakes if done right?

Jordo! · 06-18-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

The Z store's emblems are injected molded plastic, so I'm pretty sure these will be a bit more expensive than those...

I tried to ninja edit my post, but the forum locked up last night...

Those emblems haven't gotten great reviews...

Still, that's the competition, so I think he's gotta try and and at least match the price if at all possible to move these.

$250 a set may be well worth the quality, but that's a bit steep IMO for emblems...

I hate to say it, but if they go for that much, I'm probably out

scruffydog · 06-18-2010, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Don't know if it was already mentioned but... The auto tranny can use some cool aftermarket shift knobs... n if u can get your hand on some leather. You can give the auto that manual look as well along with the ebrake. I think that would sell like hot cakes if done right?

Great idea, i've actually been spending some time for the last 2 weeks working on that. Still trying to come up with a design that will make it look nice. However, I only have a MT so I would probably need to take a look at someone's AT shifter. While doing so, originally i was thinking of putting some Z features on it but with the whole trademark copy right, I have to think about it.

SkyZ · 06-18-2010, 07:33 PM

if ur thinking about a shift knob, how about a knob with a cap (like the mercedes one) with a button underneath (their ignition button). Then the owner can rout whatever they want to that button (ignition, nitrous, horn, even audio)

m4a1mustang · 06-18-2010, 08:25 PM

I wouldn't add any Z features to an MT shifter. We run the same thread pattern that a lot of Mazdas run, so if you just produce a generic design you have a broader market for sales.

06-18-2010, 08:26 AM	#376 (permalink)
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wheee! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mod Capital of Canada Age: 58 Posts: 7,354 Drives: cars. lots of cars. Rep Power: 40182	Having said that, the Z STore plastic badges are over priced as well.... I would see these emblemz going for about $200 - $250 a set taking into consideration a volume production run of around 1000 sets. More than that will reduce sales, less would not be cost effective. Leave them as "unfinished" but properly cut, drilled and tapped for installation. Everyone will customize them further. I know I will... __________________ H&R / Stillen / Berk / HKS / Swift / Michelin / UpRev / SPC / Amuse Rep / Seibon / Fringe XVO / TWM / more... My Journal

06-18-2010, 01:44 PM	#383 (permalink)
wheee! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mod Capital of Canada Age: 58 Posts: 7,354 Drives: cars. lots of cars. Rep Power: 40182	Well, let's take a poll! Complete set versus front or rear only. I am sure that we could generate enough interest in at least 100 sets. I will buy one set for sure. __________________ H&R / Stillen / Berk / HKS / Swift / Michelin / UpRev / SPC / Amuse Rep / Seibon / Fringe XVO / TWM / more... My Journal

06-18-2010, 08:25 PM	#390 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I wouldn't add any Z features to an MT shifter. We run the same thread pattern that a lot of Mazdas run, so if you just produce a generic design you have a broader market for sales. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	Don't know if it was already mentioned but... The auto tranny can use some cool aftermarket shift knobs... n if u can get your hand on some leather. You can give the auto that manual look as well along with the ebrake. I think that would sell like hot cakes if done right?

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SkyZ Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 382 Drives: 09 370z PG M6 Rep Power: 16	if ur thinking about a shift knob, how about a knob with a cap (like the mercedes one) with a button underneath (their ignition button). Then the owner can rout whatever they want to that button (ignition, nitrous, horn, even audio)