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(phelan rant) look, i'm an engineer too, okay? i understand there are significant costs associated with low production run items, especially something like this. blocks of metal aren't cheap, the labor involved isn't cheap, etc. etc. blah blah blah. my project at work is a limited production run too, it's a PITA to figure out the tooling just to build one f*cking unit. so i get it. hell, we all get it. some will justify to themselves that the end product is worth the price of admission, some won't. such is the nature of business / capitalism. you want to make this a mass production run? make the initial set, and ship the damn thing to china. $5 a piece, made out of craplastic. there ya go, mass produced. what i fail to see as productive is the random insults getting thrown about. there's no need for that. and how the hell did you guys start talking about rep?? this is nuts. you're busy trying to defend yourself that's something way further down the line. all it really needed was a justification of the cost (i.e. what you posted already, like $700 for expenses, $x for labor, etc.). that's it, and we can all be on our merry way. no harm, no foul (unless you're kouman coulibaly in which case F*CK YOU :roflpuke2: i kid, i kid). i salute you as an engineer, but please, be nice to some of us customers. :) (/phelan rant) Quote:
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AgStacker, There is no need to be treating other People like that. I'm guessing you would like to move forward to maybe making some money here? I think you need to really reflect on of how you're acting in here. By what I see your not going to win many Fans acting the way you are. You're reminding me of a Douche, but thats all. Please conduct yourself as the adult your are.
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looks good! but seriously.... post the file!!
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haha, that's some pretty wicked project! Awesome! I'd be so scared to hold a chain saw for that long.
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Please keep the thread on topic. There's no need to insult or attack another member.
Quality parts will require a lot of money. There are forum members who are buying a $1200/exhaust where we also have members that are rocking $4500 Amuse or $4000 Saclam Limited Production exhaust. There are people who are very happy with their cheap replica kits on their Z, but then you also have members who are shipping $5K-$6K Amuse or Mines kit straight from Japan. Quality stuff are not for everyone but those who want it, WILL get it. There is no need to argue over pricing. If it fits your budget (and most importantly, your "theme" of your car), then get it. If it doesn't, well there's no need to add negative comment. AgStacker, I'm not sure how many forums you've been a registered member before, but you'll ALWAYS get positive and negative comments in a thread. It's unavoidable. You have to take it easy and ONLY reply to the comments you feel necessary. As for vendor situation, I have allowed AgStacker to develop and get feedback from members. I usually do this with ALL companies (for research and development). However, in order to be fair with our paying sponsor, ONE MUST BE VENDOR when the product is ready to sell. I have already assured AgStacker I am willing to work out a good pricing (even if it's one time fee) on sponsorship whenever he is ready to sell his product(s). Thanks. |
I don't get this thread at all. The guy is making an expensive product. If people can't afford it, just keep your plastic burgers.
I think the result is beautiful, btw. |
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I think those looks awesome!
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AGStacker, I emailed you the updated files for the fix. Hopefully it works out! Keep up the good work.
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Since this potential group buy looks like it's gone to crap, I'm going to contact my good friend who has unlimited (relatively) access to free machining to see how much he would produce these and similar items for. His prices have always been reasonable in the past, but the kind of round stock needed to machine these is kind of $$$
We've prototyped, fitted, and finished products for the Evo X, for example, within a couple weeks, just to give you an idea. Not sure if he's doing any of that any more, but it would be worth a shot, right? I apologize in advance if I'm offending the OP, but it's obvious you're not the only machinist on this forum :) That said, I'm not out to rip off any ideas or designs. I'm sure something unique would arise from any efforts on my end. |
^^competition and capitalism is what makes the US great..go for it!
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Go for it WarmAndSmallComputerSystemInterface!
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Yeah go for it dude!!!!! hell yes!!!!
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I am with you WarmAndSCSI.
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Amen -- do it!
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keeping close eye on WarmAndSCSI's creations...
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I just chatted with my friend who produces billet stuff, and he says this is a perfectly feasible item for him. He figures the final price would be about $200/set on emblems like these.
We'll probably start working on prototypes pretty soon; I'll be donating my stock emblems for the cause. And just FYI, these items are all produced by us - not overseas - and are hand-finished. We're talking very meticulous attention to detail. BTW, my friend is also a professional powder coater and he let me know that anodizing would not be a reasonable option for any exterior piece because of a lack of UV resistance. He suggests powder coating as the best option. Plus it'll look better ;) I won't reveal any other items we're brainstorming on, but we've got a few ideas that should do very well. |
^^sounds good..200 for a pair is fair imo..get ur friend on that lathe!
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Oh well Warm already covered it, but there are very few colors that hold up to UV in regards to anodizing. Hard anodizing is the only one that even has a UV resistance and the color is less than desirable.
Chrome is an option, or polished with a clear anodizing, or as mentioned, powder coat. I am going to look into these a bit this week and see what direction we can head. I would also consider offering CUSTOM badges to a certain extent. |
Considering the cost of the plastic alternatives, if this looks good then, yeah $200 for a set sounds pretty reasonable!
Keep us posted! |
Looking around the forum there is some room for me to work here.
Who do I contact in regards to becoming a vendor? I am vendor on multiple other forums already. |
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Man what happened in this thread? Everyone go to your rooms!! And no supper!
I turn my back for one second........:shakes head: ;) |
i think the OP wants 500+ for a billet emblem..its nice but uhh yeah...
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Wow the tags for this topic are EPIC.
camera mount, crack emblems, emblems, poor ppl bitching about metal, rude metal cutting dude, you can’t afford it, you too po lol |
It adds weight :/ slows the car down.
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With your good news, Can you start a new thread?
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I want a set!
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This idea went to hell in a hand basket :shakes head:
I hope a real manufacture decides to produce some that we wont need to get a loan to purchase emblems :stirthepot: |
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