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wheee! 06-21-2010 04:49 PM
not if it is bolted on from behind....

kenchan 06-21-2010 04:53 PM
then you end up with screw driver pry marks. :icon14:

i would only put this on if your car's garaged and hobby car.

wheee! 06-21-2010 04:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 587171)
then you end up with screw driver pry marks. :icon14:

i would only put this on if your car's garaged and hobby car.
Well, she is a Garage queen! :icon17:

But, add a capacitance sensor (think touch lamp circuit) to the emblem and wire it to the alarm system. One touch of a hand or metal device will trigger the alarm.... simple!!:tup:

Jordo! 06-21-2010 04:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 587158)
Don't ever ask a skilled artisan to sell his work cheap. Time, skilz, training, raw materials and hundred thousand $+ CNC machines (that you're getting the benefit of for free) don't come without a price....
I'm not suggesting he sell these for a penny less than their worth...

I'm suggesting that a couple hundred bucks for hood ornaments is expensive.

He could make these out of gold, and they might be valued in the thousands and sought out by rare art collectors, but again, these are hood ornaments :icon14:

I'm sure someone will buy them, and probably a spare set too. I think this is a great project, but given a choice between putting my lunch money towards lunch or hood ornaments, I'll take lunch :icon17:

kenchan 06-21-2010 04:56 PM
wheee- sounds like you got the right setup and now "qualify" for purchase. :D hahaha.

wheee! 06-21-2010 04:58 PM
:icon17: I certainly am interested in the final product! Would love to set one up with the capacitance circuit too, then post a DIY.

Modshack 06-21-2010 05:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 587174)
I'm suggesting that a couple hundred bucks for hood ornaments is expensive.
Of course it is....Especially for something that most won't distinguish from the plastic at 10 feet away. You pay for the quality and uniqueness...What it is worth to a buyer is up to them..

http://images56.fotki.com/v1602/phot...MG_2042-vi.jpg

Lemers 06-21-2010 05:37 PM
I won't speculate on price. When he is done and adds up his exspences and values his time and effort, he will offer them to us at a price. We will then except the price or not. As with all product, the most exspensive it item the smaller the customer base is. And he already stated that he does want to make a lot of these.

AgStacker 06-21-2010 05:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 586868)
ps while we are on this topic since you are trying to sell something on this site shouldn't you pay to be a vendor like all the others on this site...
I have not offered anything for sale, when and IF I do, I will most certainly become a vendor, I have already spoken to AK about this.

Also, I find comments like

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 586121)
Make that sh*t and let me buy it

and

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 580294)
And cook me my dinner b-tch lol!
rather annoying.

phelan 06-21-2010 05:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemers (Post 587211)
I won't speculate on price. When he is done and adds up his expenses and values his time and effort, he will offer them to us at a price. We will then accept the price or not. As with all products, the most expensive it item the smaller the customer base is. And he already stated that he does want to make a lot of these.
fix'd :)

Best of luck AgStacker, your efforts are slowly but surely pushing me towards trying my luck milling a logo out myself :tup:

XwChriswX 06-21-2010 05:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AgStacker (Post 587225)
I have not offered anything for sale, when and IF I do, I will most certainly become a vendor, I have already spoken to AK about this.
Talking down to potential buyers is not a good way to get people interested... Especially when they are looking forward to your product.

Whatever his financial situation is, is his own business, and not your place to strike down judgement on whether or not he is of the proper class to afford your masterpiece.

At the rate you're going, SpawnAero's gotta better chance selling CF than this. GL with the sale, but the customer service dept could use an overhaul. :ugh2:

Ztoon 06-21-2010 06:06 PM
Not in sales, I take it, Ag?

Zeto 06-21-2010 06:15 PM
You can treat me like a dirty whore, as long as I get a set of emblems I'll be happy :D

wishihadnav 06-21-2010 06:24 PM
i guess Sibze wont be first in line for these?..haha

AgStacker 06-21-2010 06:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeto (Post 587258)
You can treat me like a dirty whore, as long as I get a set of emblems I'll be happy :D
Finally someone sees it my way...

Look guys maybe your right, I'm a ****. Fine. But I didn't come here to sell stuff I came here to make stuff. YOU are the ones who pushed this item to be made for sale. Go back and read the thread, All I wanted was to meet some people who could help me with my geometry.

I've spent countless hours working on this by now, Trying to make it more affordable for YOU guys. If you want to turn on me now because of a couple comments I made, fine I'll pack my sh!t and hit the road.

scruffydog 06-21-2010 06:30 PM
WHOA.....I just finished catching up reading this thread....man, have I missed out the drama.

wishihadnav 06-21-2010 06:42 PM
dude just chill out..dont get all worked up by a few posts..its going to happen..im sure everybody here appreciates your time in making these..no one here is turning on you...i just think there are a few people here who are getting exicited here prematurly when/if you decide to mass produce these..

XwChriswX 06-21-2010 06:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AgStacker (Post 587265)
Finally someone sees it my way...

Look guys maybe your right, I'm a ****. Fine. But I didn't come here to sell stuff I came here to make stuff. YOU are the ones who pushed this item to be made for sale. Go back and read the thread, All I wanted was to meet some people who could help me with my geometry.

I've spent countless hours working on this by now, Trying to make it more affordable for YOU guys. If you want to turn on me now because of a couple comments I made, fine I'll pack my sh!t and hit the road.
Last time I checked telling someone 'they can't afford it' isn't the way to go about 'making it more affordable'.

Let it be said, no one is knocking your idea, or craftsmanship. We all expect that these will turn out sick and a lot of people are already getting the fishing line and Goo Gone to start peeling off the plastic pieces as soon as you hammer down a price. I too would love to see the two tone idea come to be.

All we're saying is that we understand You are putting in a lot of time/effort into this, and that your product (although possibly more expensive that some think it should be) will be worth the cost. Whatever you determine that to be.

Personally, as long as Nissan doesn't give you shit for it, rock on with these, and hopefully the more buyers you get, the easier it will be to bring the collective cost down cause as we have seen on here group buys are where vendors actually make their $$$ lol.

My only question I have left is the material... Aluminum right? Or something else? Will they come only in the bare metal, or is there anyway to get them with the 'Black Chrome' look to them? Cause if so, I'd love to see a set of those...

LinPark 06-21-2010 06:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AgStacker (Post 587265)
Finally someone sees it my way...

Look guys maybe your right, I'm a ****. Fine. But I didn't come here to sell stuff I came here to make stuff. YOU are the ones who pushed this item to be made for sale. Go back and read the thread, All I wanted was to meet some people who could help me with my geometry.

I've spent countless hours working on this by now, Trying to make it more affordable for YOU guys. If you want to turn on me now because of a couple comments I made, fine I'll pack my sh!t and hit the road.
I'm still extremely interested in the badges and can't wait to see IF you do in fact put them up for sale to interested parties. You have to realize that there will always be certain types on public forums and you need to decide whether you want to be involved in that or not. Personally, I hope you hang around because clearly you have skills and the ability to use them for a greater purpose and those are the types of people who succeed in this world. :tiphat:

EDIT: On a side note, what does one have to do around here to get Rep Power to move off of a 1? Stopping short of whoring myself, there must be a way right? :)

Sibze 06-21-2010 06:51 PM
AgStacker - read things in the context that they are written. When I said “make my dinner” people were telling you to change this and change that, I had posted before to stop changing each little thing and make it the way you wanted it and let people customize it as they wanted to... I.E make my dinner too was a joke implying that everyone wanted there own product from what you were making.

And when I said make this sh!t, I meant make it so I COULD (past tense) buy it.

Not once did I say anything bad about your product, from the start I have said I wanted to buy it.

You are the one that went off on the personal attack saying that I cannot afford it...

If I remember correctly from the beginning of this thread you don't own this shop that you work at. So from that I will take it that you are a general machinist? Maybe a designer of some sorts? Maybe even an engineer? I am not going to say anything bad about your job because I am sure you do well for yourself plus just like you have no idea what I do, I don’t know what you do. However you have not a clue what I do for a living.

So just because I do not own two or more 370’s and I have not invested more than the $50,000 it cost me to purchase the vehicle please do not pass judgment on the amount of income I make and what I can and cannot afford.

I wish you all the luck in the “sales” (but your not doing sales) of your product however I can guarantee you if this becomes a for sale product you have lost at least one client and I am sure a few more because of the comments made today.

370Zsteve 06-21-2010 06:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AgStacker (Post 580636)
Stunning

wishihadnav 06-21-2010 06:57 PM
Sibze loan Ag some money so he get get this project funded..haha

AgStacker 06-21-2010 07:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sibze (Post 587294)
AgStacker - read things in the context that they are written. When I said “make my dinner” people were telling you to change this and change that, I had posted before to stop changing each little thing and make it the way you wanted it and let people customize it as they wanted to... I.E make my dinner too was a joke implying that everyone wanted there own product from what you were making.

And when I said make this sh!t, I meant make it so I COULD (past tense) buy it.

Not once did I say anything bad about your product, from the start I have said I wanted to buy it.

You are the one that went off on the personal attack saying that I cannot afford it...

If I remember correctly from the beginning of this thread you don't own this shop that you work at. So from that I will take it that you are a general machinist? Maybe a designer of some sorts? Maybe even an engineer? I am not going to say anything bad about your job because I am sure you do well for yourself plus just like you have no idea what I do, I don’t know what you do. However you have not a clue what I do for a living. I actually work for one of the world’s top 10 banks. I manage 6 sales staff at my branch and actually make a very good living for myself. I have completed the Certified Financial Planners course and have the CFP designation. I was a financial planner for a while until I was prompted to managing staff FP sales staff.

So just because I do not own two or more 370’s and I have not invested more than the $50,000 it cost me to purchase the vehicle please do not pass judgment on the amount of income I make and what I can and cannot afford.

I wish you all the luck in the “sales” (but your not doing sales) of your product however I can guarantee you if this becomes a for sale product you have lost at least one client and I am sure a few more because of the comments made today.
Although I quoted you in the "you can not afford comment", it was not just directed at you but toward anyone one and everyone who was expecting these things to be inexpensive.

You made a comment about how filling your tank with unicorn blood would be cheaper and you would not be buying if the price per set was $500. Then several posts later you said you were interested in buying (past tense). Even after I reassured you that the price would be high.

I meant to use you as an example, not make a personal attack on you directly.

XwChriswX 06-21-2010 07:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AgStacker (Post 587316)
I meant to use you as an example, not make a personal attack on you directly.
It's ok, we use him as examples too, although it's usually more funny and with a lot more obscenities :tup:


Ag, is it possible yet to have a sort of ball park estimate that people can start legitimately checking their bank accounts for? Or are we still not far enough into development for that...

I know everyone's been throwing around the $500 hammer, but do you have anything more accurate right now?

Sibze 06-21-2010 07:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AgStacker (Post 587316)
Although I quoted you in the "you can not afford comment", it was not just directed at you but toward anyone one and everyone who was expecting these things to be inexpensive.

You made a comment about how filling your tank with unicorn blood would be cheaper and you would not be buying if the price per set was $500. Then several posts later you said you were interested in buying (past tense). Even after I reassured you that the price would be high.

I meant to use you as an example, not make a personal attack on you directly.
I appreciate the fact that you are getting many many suggestions but in the future please don’t attack people that have supported your project from the start and people who wanted to buy your product. All I was trying to do was have a little fun with what was going on. If you do not want more suggestions and feedback I would suggest closing off that portion of the thread and do this project the way you want it and the way that you feel will provide you with the best possible sales.

You are developing something great here and I wish you all the luck with the sales.

AgStacker 06-21-2010 07:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by XwChriswX (Post 587350)
It's ok, we use him as examples too, although it's usually more funny and with a lot more obscenities :tup:


Ag, is it possible yet to have a sort of ball park estimate that people can start legitimately checking their bank accounts for? Or are we still not far enough into development for that...

I know everyone's been throwing around the $500 hammer, but do you have anything more accurate right now?
My cost to use the machines for personal profit will be $100 per hour. The cycle time on the prototype was about 2 hrs. 15 min. (one emblem) That was a first attempt and I will be able to reduce cycle time slightly on the next go-round but I'm not foreseeing a huge time savings with out affecting the look of the final product.

After that I would need to cut in Kevin (Scruffydog) for surely if money is made he is deserving of some of it.

I would have to pay $700 per year to become a vendor on this Forum.

I can not even estimate the cost of reaching a licensing agreement with Nissan or what percentage they would want.

Then you got UPS and the tax man.

I imagine few will be willing to pay the price required to cover these costs. And I'm perfectly fine with that. There is no room for profit here and I never really intended for there to be.

I see the most likely scenario as this:

5 sets get made, One for me, One for Kevin.

AK gets 70 bucks for a one month vendorship.

3 sets hit ebay.

Then I start my next project. Solid sterling silver shift knob. :happydance:

kenchan 06-21-2010 08:03 PM
Phalen- can't you make something out of bamboo from your Pier1 purchase? :D

wheee! 06-21-2010 08:58 PM
What about posting up the milling file for do-it-yourselfers? :p

FuszNissan 06-21-2010 09:13 PM
Gota pay to play!

SkyZ 06-21-2010 09:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 587490)
What about posting up the milling file for do-it-yourselfers? :p
while i agree with this, i think AG (and scruffy and whoever was involved in the milling file) should be compensated for their hard work in creating the file. I'm sure it took a lot of time, a lot of effort. Up to them really, but i feel they deserve something for their hard work. :tup:

Mike 06-21-2010 09:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LinPark (Post 587288)
EDIT: On a side note, what does one have to do around here to get Rep Power to move off of a 1? Stopping short of whoring myself, there must be a way right? :)
+ Rep for you!!!!

shadoquad 06-21-2010 09:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LinPark (Post 587288)
EDIT: On a side note, what does one have to do around here to get Rep Power to move off of a 1? Stopping short of whoring myself, there must be a way right? :)
Rep power is a direct reflection of post count, I believe.

XwChriswX 06-21-2010 09:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AgStacker (Post 587409)
My cost to use the machines for personal profit will be $100 per hour. The cycle time on the prototype was about 2 hrs. 15 min. (one emblem) That was a first attempt and I will be able to reduce cycle time slightly on the next go-round but I'm not foreseeing a huge time savings with out affecting the look of the final product.

After that I would need to cut in Kevin (Scruffydog) for surely if money is made he is deserving of some of it.

I would have to pay $700 per year to become a vendor on this Forum.

I can not even estimate the cost of reaching a licensing agreement with Nissan or what percentage they would want.

Then you got UPS and the tax man.

I imagine few will be willing to pay the price required to cover these costs. And I'm perfectly fine with that. There is no room for profit here and I never really intended for there to be.

I see the most likely scenario as this:

5 sets get made, One for me, One for Kevin.

AK gets 70 bucks for a one month vendorship.

3 sets hit ebay.

Then I start my next project. Solid sterling silver shift knob. :happydance:
Aside from the awesome work you're putting into this, it is sad that its not easier/more cost effective to make these because they are an awesome idea.

Mike 06-21-2010 09:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 587532)
Rep power is a direct reflection of post count, I believe.
no, people have to click on the scales at the bottom left under your screen name to give you rep points. Not every click equals a point though.

shadoquad 06-21-2010 09:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike (Post 587548)
no, people have to click on the scales at the bottom left under your screen name to give you rep points. Not every click equals a point though.
From what I was told, rep power is how many times you've posted. It represents how much rep you can give when you click the scales.

On the other hand, the green dots represent how many rep points you've received. I could be wrong. *shrug*

Sibze 06-21-2010 09:41 PM
must be wrong... you have more posts I have more rep power you have more green

Edit: sorry I still have more posts but I have had 4 for a while now

FuszNissan 06-21-2010 09:51 PM
I have to admit, that is a nice hood ornament

AgStacker 06-21-2010 09:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 587510)
Gota pay to play!
Aint that the truth?

AgStacker 06-21-2010 10:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wheee! (Post 587490)
What about posting up the milling file for do-it-yourselfers? :p
Here you go...
%
O370
(370Z BADGE ZF-2A)
(OP-1)
G10G90Q2L2P1X-
(3.0 AB SHELL)
N1G0G90G80G40G54T1
M6
T10
G0G90X-4.1Y.75S6000M3
G43Z.1H1M8
G1Z.005F65.
X4.1
Y-.75
X-4.1
G0G90Z2.0M9
M89
G91G28Z0M5
M01
(.75 RUFF)
N10G0G90G80G40G17G54T10
M6
T8
G0G90X0Y-2.75S8000M3
G43Z.1H10M8
G1Z-.420D10F85.
G1G41Y-2.25
G2Y2.25R2.25
Y-2.25R2.25
G1G40Y-2.75
G0G90Z.1
X2.75Y.1
G1Z-.6F25
G1G41X2.23
Y-.1
G1G40X2.75
G0G90Z2.0M9
M89
G91G28Z0M5
M01
(.191 DRILL)
N8G0G90G80G40G17G54T8
M6
T2
G0G90X-.4593Y-1.0182S3600M3
G43Z.1H8M88
G83Z-.200R.1Q.1F18.
X-.9159 Y.1695
X.9308 Y-.1585
X.4594 Y1.0182
G0G80Z2.0M9
M89
G91G28Z0M5
M01
(.5 RUFF)
N2G0G90G80G40G17G54T2
M6
T3
G0G90X2.4196Y1.1246M3S8000
G43Z.1H2M8
G8P1
G1Z-.420D2F65.
M98 P1
G0G90Z.1
X.9988 Y2.203
G1Z0
M98 P2
G0G90Z2.0M9
M89
G91G28Z0M5
M01

oh wait I think there's more....

XwChriswX 06-21-2010 10:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AgStacker (Post 587641)
Here you go...
%
O370
(370Z BADGE ZF-2A)
(OP-1)
G10G90Q2L2P1X-
(3.0 AB SHELL)
N1G0G90G80G40G54T1
M6
T10
G0G90X-4.1Y.75S6000M3
G43Z.1H1M8
G1Z.005F65.
X4.1
Y-.75
X-4.1
G0G90Z2.0M9
M89
G91G28Z0M5
M01
(.75 RUFF)
N10G0G90G80G40G17G54T10
M6
T8
G0G90X0Y-2.75S8000M3
G43Z.1H10M8
G1Z-.420D10F85.
G1G41Y-2.25
G2Y2.25R2.25
Y-2.25R2.25
G1G40Y-2.75
G0G90Z.1
X2.75Y.1
G1Z-.6F25
G1G41X2.23
Y-.1
G1G40X2.75
G0G90Z2.0M9
M89
G91G28Z0M5
M01
(.191 DRILL)
N8G0G90G80G40G17G54T8
M6
T2
G0G90X-.4593Y-1.0182S3600M3
G43Z.1H8M88
G83Z-.200R.1Q.1F18.
X-.9159 Y.1695
X.9308 Y-.1585
X.4594 Y1.0182
G0G80Z2.0M9
M89
G91G28Z0M5
M01
(.5 RUFF)
N2G0G90G80G40G17G54T2
M6
T3
G0G90X2.4196Y1.1246M3S8000
G43Z.1H2M8
G8P1
G1Z-.420D2F65.
M98 P1
G0G90Z.1
X.9988 Y2.203
G1Z0
M98 P2
G0G90Z2.0M9
M89
G91G28Z0M5
M01

oh wait I think there's more....
Now that you put it that way, it totally makes sense... :tup:


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