SRM: Nissan's View, Failure to Change the Industry

antennahead · 05-22-2010, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370

I dont think when I downshift, its muscle memory, clutch in, blip, release, that simple. I dont feel that I need a computer to blip the throttle for me and I think alot of people in the automotive world feel the same way. Cool feature? sure, necessary for people that have been driving manual transmissions their whole life without it? definitely not. This is why copycats havent emerged, its not imperative to have.

Same here. I think it's a cool technology, but I have been driving manuals since the early 70's. I am so used to doing it myself that I keep mine turned off as well.

kenchan · 05-22-2010, 01:35 PM

Not enough people interested in MT.

All my cars are MT's and SRM is turned "on" on my Z.

areyouin729 · 05-22-2010, 01:38 PM

I test drove it and it was cool but I've been driving manual my whole life so I didn't see a need for it

Jeffblue · 05-22-2010, 02:35 PM

There are a lot of people out their who's idea of driving manual does not include downshifting at all. so to talk about rev matching on downshifts and heel-toe downshifting like its something every driver knows how to do as a reason why this system hasn't caught on doesn't really make that much sense IMO. i think it allows people to drive a manual like it should be driven by an expert driver, without being an expert driver, nothing wrong with that.

specZ · 05-22-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CBRich

Here we go. It's only been about for about a year. It takes car companies years of planning before they put a car out. It's hard to say something hasn't caught on when no new cars have been developed (not released, developed) since it came out.

above post is by and far the biggest reason

Jeffblue · 05-22-2010, 02:45 PM

don't they have some sort of trademark on it, how does that kind of thing work with automotive technology?

Lemers · 05-22-2010, 03:17 PM

I understand it taking several years for another company that didn't hav the tech to copy it. What about Nissan not even adopting it into their own lineup outside the Z? The g coupe would have been a natural car to start with. It uses the same engine and transmission setup. It wouldn't have taken as much to put it in.

Jeffblue · 05-22-2010, 03:44 PM

i like the fact that we have the only car in the world with the technology as of yet.

370Zsteve · 05-22-2010, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370

I dont think when I downshift, its muscle memory, clutch in, blip, release, that simple. I dont feel that I need a computer to blip the throttle for me and I think alot of people in the automotive world feel the same way. Cool feature? sure, necessary for people that have been driving manual transmissions their whole life without it? definitely not. This is why copycats havent emerged, its not imperative to have.

You don't think you can shift faster and more efficiently if you eliminate "blip" from this sequence: clutch in, blip, release?

You also don't feel the need for a computer to help you, yet computers are doing about 10000 things per second while you are driving.

Lemers · 05-22-2010, 04:16 PM

When I drive I can't tell you for sure if the SRM is even being used. Only time a feel it is when I coming to a red stoplight.

6spd · 05-22-2010, 04:23 PM

I hope it is never used again... that way our cars retain some rather unique quality about it.

Portlander · 05-22-2010, 04:30 PM

Played with it for the first couple of weeks and I applaud Nissan for the new technology, but I prefer it turned off.

Red370 · 05-22-2010, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

You don't think you can shift faster and more efficiently if you eliminate "blip" from this sequence: clutch in, blip, release?

You also don't feel the need for a computer to help you, yet computers are doing about 10000 things per second while you are driving.

I never said that I didnt think it was a great technology, its just not for me.

kenchan · 05-22-2010, 05:49 PM

also suppose if some euro-car applied it, it will be just another thing to break.

sonic370 · 05-22-2010, 08:58 PM

IMO its a good thing the SRM. That being said i drive a 7at
But i understand the mt guys wanting that extra control
I find myself missing the mt sometimes when i won't more
control that the 7at doesn't have. i think nissan brought it
out for those drivers who always wanted the thrill of a mt
because it easier to control.

05-22-2010, 03:17 PM	#22 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	I understand it taking several years for another company that didn't hav the tech to copy it. What about Nissan not even adopting it into their own lineup outside the Z? The g coupe would have been a natural car to start with. It uses the same engine and transmission setup. It wouldn't have taken as much to put it in. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

05-22-2010, 04:16 PM	#25 (permalink)
Lemers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Izmir, Turkey Posts: 15,371 Drives: 2012 Traverse LTZ Rep Power: 52	When I drive I can't tell you for sure if the SRM is even being used. Only time a feel it is when I coming to a red stoplight. __________________ 2010 Black Cherry Touring/Sport/Nav Now - 2012 Travese LTZ until I leave for Turkey

05-22-2010, 04:23 PM	#26 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	I hope it is never used again... that way our cars retain some rather unique quality about it. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

05-22-2010, 04:30 PM	#27 (permalink)
Portlander Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 69 Drives: 10 370Z PW 6MT Sport Rep Power: 16	Played with it for the first couple of weeks and I applaud Nissan for the new technology, but I prefer it turned off. __________________ Life is a highway!

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05-22-2010, 01:35 PM	#17 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	Not enough people interested in MT. All my cars are MT's and SRM is turned "on" on my Z.

05-22-2010, 01:38 PM	#18 (permalink)
areyouin729 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Conshohocken Age: 43 Posts: 301 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 17	I test drove it and it was cool but I've been driving manual my whole life so I didn't see a need for it

05-22-2010, 02:35 PM	#19 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	There are a lot of people out their who's idea of driving manual does not include downshifting at all. so to talk about rev matching on downshifts and heel-toe downshifting like its something every driver knows how to do as a reason why this system hasn't caught on doesn't really make that much sense IMO. i think it allows people to drive a manual like it should be driven by an expert driver, without being an expert driver, nothing wrong with that.

05-22-2010, 02:45 PM	#21 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	don't they have some sort of trademark on it, how does that kind of thing work with automotive technology?

05-22-2010, 03:44 PM	#23 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	i like the fact that we have the only car in the world with the technology as of yet.

05-22-2010, 05:49 PM	#29 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	also suppose if some euro-car applied it, it will be just another thing to break.

05-22-2010, 08:58 PM	#30 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 18	IMO its a good thing the SRM. That being said i drive a 7at But i understand the mt guys wanting that extra control I find myself missing the mt sometimes when i won't more control that the 7at doesn't have. i think nissan brought it out for those drivers who always wanted the thrill of a mt because it easier to control.