Question on trade back my auto Z to a manual

antman22 · 05-13-2010, 12:24 PM

ah...good old manual vs auto argument....

someone yesterday asked me if my Z had CVT. If it wasn't for the fact that it was a girl that asked me, it would have warranted a punch.

Jeffblue · 05-13-2010, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

I think you need to read up on how the manual mode tiptronics actually works. The transmission stays in whatever gear you put it in unless you get ouside the operational limits of the tranny.

I know, that was from two separate posts. One of which i mentioned that i dont like tiptronics. The other i was talking about how automatic transmissions gear hunt, obviously not when they are in manual mode. But to me i dont understand why someone would get an automatic, to constantly use the tiptronics, if someone is so anti changing gears in a manual tranissmission, but changes their gears all the time with paddle shifters, i think that just says that they don't know how to use the clutch.

Zsteve · 05-13-2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

I know, that was from two separate posts. One of which i mentioned that i dont like tiptronics. The other i was talking about how automatic transmissions gear hunt, obviously not when they are in manual mode. But to me i dont understand why someone would get an automatic, to constantly use the tiptronics, if someone is so anti changing gears in a manual tranissmission, but changes their gears all the time with paddle shifters, i think that just says that they don't know how to use the clutch.

I would say its all a matter of choice but most dont always use the paddles. I go auto untill I want to do some spirited passing, then I go manual. Now I wish they would have a sport mode auto too which would shift more aggressively than regular auto. And I can tell you I have had plenty of manuals and can use a clutch but I like not having to and getting way faster shifts. I would also like to see the DSG in the Z, they shift like lightning.

wishihadnav · 05-13-2010, 12:45 PM

well if auto was superior to manual why didnt they offer it in the Nismo model?..i would of bought it to cuz im lazy..haha..

Lug · 05-13-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

I know, that was from two separate posts. One of which i mentioned that i dont like tiptronics. The other i was talking about how automatic transmissions gear hunt, obviously not when they are in manual mode. But to me i dont understand why someone would get an automatic, to constantly use the tiptronics, if someone is so anti changing gears in a manual tranissmission, but changes their gears all the time with paddle shifters, i think that just says that they don't know how to use the clutch.

You're making the assumption that people who buy the auto are anti changing gears all the time or vice-versa. The point of the auto with tip is that you have one extra choice. Early Tiptronics did tend to suck but the new one in the 370z may be the best one ever made. Certainly one of the few that can match a manual for speed. "Feel" was hardly ever mentioned when Autos were always slower, it was always about the time back then. As auto's got as good or better in accel times, that "focus" seems to have changed. For me, the number one reason to buy a manula is less for "feel" and more for upgradeability. It's a whole lot easier to buoild a manual tranny for big extra hp numbers than an auto.

Zsteve · 05-13-2010, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by wishihadnav

well if auto was superior to manual why didnt they offer it in the Nismo model?..i would of bought it to cuz im lazy..haha..

cuz NISMO is not superior.

Now its a anti auto anti nismo thread.

wishihadnav · 05-13-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

cuz NISMO is not superior.

Now its a anti auto anti nismo thread.

well they should of made it cheaper then..haha.

Jeffblue · 05-13-2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

You're making the assumption that people who buy the auto are anti changing gears all the time or vice-versa. The point of the auto with tip is that you have one extra choice. Early Tiptronics did tend to suck but the new one in the 370z may be the best one ever made. Certainly one of the few that can match a manual for speed. "Feel" was hardly ever mentioned when Autos were always slower, it was always about the time back then. As auto's got as good or better in accel times, that "focus" seems to have changed. For me, the number one reason to buy a manula is less for "feel" and more for upgradeability. It's a whole lot easier to buoild a manual tranny for big extra hp numbers than an auto.

i'm not saying all people that drive auto do that. i'm talking about the ones who say 'OMG how can you change gears and not crash into a tree if you. i got an auto b/c i didn't want to die as a result of losing total control of the car for the 1 second my hand wasn't on the wheel while changing gears.

wishihadnav · 05-13-2010, 12:56 PM

auto takes the fun out of driving imo..no connection with the car whatsoever..

Zsteve · 05-13-2010, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by wishihadnav

auto takes the fun out of driving imo..no connection with the car whatsoever..

Thats like saying no foreplay takes the fun out of sex. LOL.

Lug · 05-13-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

i'm not saying all people that drive auto do that. i'm talking about the ones who say 'OMG how can you change gears and not crash into a tree if you. i got an auto b/c i didn't want to die as a result of losing total control of the car for the 1 second my hand wasn't on the wheel while changing gears.

Tha's idiotic. I drive with one hand on the wheel and the other hand holding my whiskey bottle and I got no problems at all!

wishihadnav · 05-13-2010, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

Thats like saying no foreplay takes the fun out of sex. LOL.

i like complete control of my car...n my woman to..haha

Zsteve · 05-13-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wishihadnav

i like complete control of my car...n my woman to..haha

But even sex with no foreplay is fun. Just as driving the Z with an auto is still fun. I wonder if a car salesman can use this comparison when making a sell?

DjSquall · 05-13-2010, 01:14 PM

I drive with no hands and steer with my boner....

Zsteve · 05-13-2010, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DjSquall

I drive with no hands and steer with my boner....

you can make yours bend around the wheel? Damnnnnn. Is that called TIP (tronic) control?

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05-13-2010, 12:24 PM	#31 (permalink)
antman22 Track Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 597 Drives: 09 PG 370z 7AT Rep Power: 16	ah...good old manual vs auto argument.... someone yesterday asked me if my Z had CVT. If it wasn't for the fact that it was a girl that asked me, it would have warranted a punch.

05-13-2010, 12:45 PM	#34 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 184	well if auto was superior to manual why didnt they offer it in the Nismo model?..i would of bought it to cuz im lazy..haha..

05-13-2010, 12:56 PM	#39 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 184	auto takes the fun out of driving imo..no connection with the car whatsoever..

05-13-2010, 01:14 PM	#44 (permalink)
DjSquall A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tottenham, ON Age: 36 Posts: 1,340 Drives: My first car Rep Power: 22	I drive with no hands and steer with my boner....