Question on trade back my auto Z to a manual

UNKNOWN_370

Ur gonna lose close to 6 grand. The Z ain't worth that much to me. Keeping the one you have = performance value. Trading = seriously overpaying.
Besides the auto spanks the manual. Some might find jerkin knobs fun. Lol. I rather leave that job to the women and use paddles. Lmao!

UNKNOWN_370

Obviously your comments come with no experience and you spend a lot of time on forums and just go with public opinion. There are a lot of reasons people choose manuals. But control has nothing to do with it. I have many years of using both trannies. The only thing you lose in a manual are good burnouts. Which cost u in wearing your tires down.

Nissan DRM automanual is the eptiome of slushboxes. You can engine brake, get split second shifts. (Faster than manual. And when you get enough practice. You can really surpass manual performance.
The only other advantage to manual is when modding, you cannot go past a certain horsepower without replacing the tranny. But like 95% of you, will never get passed 450rwhp so ur still good in a auto.
Paddle shifting makes things happen quicker. Engine braking is superior in the auto. (the most important control feature imho)
If you really want to feel true automanual performance. Try DCT on an M3, now going in the 135I. U say you would never do something without having any real experience. A 1 hour test drive does not let you know how capable this type of tranny is.

As far as exotics going auto. Who's gonna drive a manual @ 240mph. That's a tragedy waiting to happen. Again ignorance at its finest.

kannibul

And here we go again!

DjSquall

The other day I floored the z around a quick series of tight bends. 0-60k while fishtailing left and right. Both my wrists are sore from fighting the steering, and if I was in a manual and did the same thing, I wouldve lost control b/c of having to use my right hand to shift.

That is one major superiority of an auto tranny - it frees up your right hand for whatever you need it for. In some cases, to save your car. There are way too many advantages here, and trying to say that manual is better, in my opinion, is just being plain stuck up on retardedly old cumbersome technology.

NYBladeZ

that's why they created the paddles for the women. Women are to busy applying makeup and talking on cell phones to deal with a stick shift. Btw the paddle shift is faster in a stock v. stock Z. That excludes a lot of people here, so in the long run it's more a matter of preference and ability than a performance advantage. Real guys drive stick, otherwise you'll just be making up reasons why you don't.

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NYBladeZ

For the record I've tried the paddles in both the M5 and E92 M3. In the m5 even in M mode there is still a delay. Granted it is not that long, but the second I click the paddle I want the downshift immediately not .000923432 milliseconds later. If I can tell and feel the delay it fails. The E92 M3 has a great great box but you still feel detached. It takes all driver ability out of the race, 1/4 mile runs have been reduced to putting your foot down and pressing a paddle. If that's the case it's more about who spent more on their car since the car is doing all the work not you. Slushboxes offer consistency, you won't get any driver error. However, you lose the fun factor. If you are going to tell me that it's more fun to have a computer control your shifts and rpms you're crazy. You don't even have to heel/toe in a manual anymore now that SRM is available. Lastly, women drive auto's, if you meet a girl who drives stick you'll walk away impressed because you know she goes against the grain. We're not talking about Ferrari's, Lambo's or any other supercar we're talking about normal enthusiast cars. I guess it's best phrased as the guy who drives the paddle shift will be a bit faster but the guy behind him in the stick will have a lot more fun.

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NYBladeZ

BTW as far as supercars and going extreme speeds in a manual. Do the names Ascari, ZR1, and Gumpert Apollo ring a bell? Last I checked if you asked for a Vette Z06 or Zr1 in auto they'd laugh at you. Btw how do you practice an auto, go out and see how quickly you can tap the paddle? It's ok I know the auto is an extra option and I know that you have to defend yourself, and it helps that it's consistently faster, but the diehards...we'll keep our 6 speeds, after all there's more to a sports car than pressing buttons.

PS-If you are going through twisties and find yourself having a rough time controlling the car you probably shouldn't be doing it and you can still have two hands on the wheel in a manual, I do it all the time.

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DjSquall

If I didn't have a hard time controlling the car, I wouldn't be having any fun would I? I drove away shaking from the insane adrenaline rush! If I wanted an easy time, I'd floor it in a straight line.

Oh and if you keep both your hands on the steering wheel all the time as you say, how do you shift

Jeffblue

good points blade.

In terms of if you should sell the car. if you KNOW for sure you want to sell it, then just go for it right now. your car is still at a high rate of depreciation. so you have a choice, either cut your losses and lose some money and get what you want now, or have essentially wasted your money on a car you aren't enjoying. no tiptronic is going to fill the void for your if what you want is to shift the gears yourself.

You only live once. many people probably used that as justification to get the Z in the first place, its not a practical car, its not cheap either. The SMART thing to do would be keep your car, and suck it up. But, you bought a sports car, for FUN. if you aren't having fun then you are wasting your money. if it costs you some more money to get what you want then go for it. if you want to just save money and not be happy, sell your Z, get something practical. but life is not all about being smart and practical.

Sorry for the rant, but just to clarify, you are 'wasting' money in many peoples eyes just owning this type of car. might as well waste a little more to have it be what you want.

NYBladeZ

You're kidding right?

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Jeffblue

the idea is, you can shift quickly enough to not have your hand off the wheel for any significant amount of time. Unlike the automatic, you get to stay in one gear for as long as you need, as opposed to the car deciding you should shift..... like: NOW... ok NOW again... ok i think you might be on a hill, let me downshift for you... oh wait, that hill was shorter than i thought... i'll go back to the higher gear." - Your transmission

you should watch some videos of actual race car drivers driving their cars. you'll see that its only a split second of removing their hand from the wheel.

nothing wrong with people wanting one transmission over the other, its all opinion. however, some of these anti manual transmission arguments are pretty ridiculous, and make it quite evident that the person has NO idea whats at play in a manual transmission, so they clearly could not have made an informed decision about which one they purchased. (this is not a dig at those who drive automatics, just those who have these absurd reasons for why they think manuals are more dangerous, slow, stupid, pointless, etc)

DjSquall

Of course I'm friggin' kidding!!!

As I've said before, we could sit here and argue all day. In the end, I'm still gonna drive home in my 7AT, you will drive home in your 6MT, and both of us are going to enjoy it.

edit: @jeffblue: not all of us are race car drivers, but I get your point.

mick

if you still love the 7AT then don't do it.

Lug

I think you need to read up on how the manual mode tiptronics actually works. The transmission stays in whatever gear you put it in unless you get ouside the operational limits of the tranny.

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wishihadnav

yes you'll lose alot of money but stick is always much more fun to drive...besides traffic..haha