370Z comes with full synthetic?

semtex · 02-13-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kdo2milger

I will use only Royal Purple!

My older brother turned me on to it years ago...

In the many years that ive owned and driven cars, i have used every major full syn brand out there, and of course all saying they are better than the others.

I took my brother up on his advise and switch from mobile 1 full syn to royal purple full syn and immidiatley noticed a increase in low end torque right off the bat...i thought it was crazy and it was just me, but the mach felt much stronger on the low end power than with mobile 1. It had a "throw you back in the seat feeling to begin with but with royal purple it noticably increased a bit.

In another thread, someone said that Royal Purple burns too quickly. Any truth to that?

Favorite Synthetic Oil

kdo2milger · 02-13-2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex

In another thread, someone said that Royal Purple burns too quickly. Any truth to that?

Favorite Synthetic Oil

imo i dont believe so...i change my oil evey three to five thousand miles anyway so it would be hard to say. Their website says you can go higher between changes though.

i started using it immidiately after i picked up my wifes explorer sport trac back in dec 06 and when i change the oil every 3 grand or so, it comes out clear caramel colored, its a clean burning oil for sure, but to say it burns faster, well i dont think so, because their website says you can run longer durations between oil changes suggesting it will last longer rather than burn faster.

Phil Wallace · 02-13-2009, 10:09 AM

OK, I have gotten some information from Nissans Technical Training center.
For those of you who prefer whatever oil you choose, thats your choice.

Nissan recommends ESTER oil in the 370Z and the Maxima for the following reasons.
Ester oil bonds better than conventional oil to certain metals.
Ester oil is recommended for the 370Z per the owners manual because it will reduce the noise in the Vvel valve setup found in the Maxima and the 370Z.

Its your vehicle, use what you want, If a common complaint occurs on this site in relation to excessive valvetrain noise, please check to see if you are using what Nissan's Engineering and design team recommends or if you are using your own personal preferrence....

NIZMOZ · 02-13-2009, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdo2milger

I will use only Royal Purple!

My older brother turned me on to it years ago...

In the many years that ive owned and driven cars, i have used every major full syn brand out there, and of course all saying they are better than the others.

I took my brother up on his advise and switch from mobile 1 full syn to royal purple full syn and immidiatley noticed a increase in low end torque right off the bat...i thought it was crazy and it was just me, but the mach felt much stronger on the low end power than with mobile 1. It had a "throw you back in the seat feeling to begin with but with royal purple it noticably increased a bit.

Haha...butt dynos. Sorry it will not increase your TQ. Maybe if you haven't done a oil change in 20k of miles.

NIZMOZ · 02-13-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex

In another thread, someone said that Royal Purple burns too quickly. Any truth to that?

Favorite Synthetic Oil

Very true.

Bob is the oil guy forums has more info and all the tests that show it does. It isn't recommended and over hyped.

It is a gimmick like that blade you put in your intakes to swirl the air that never really helped.

NIZMOZ · 02-13-2009, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdo2milger

imo i dont believe so...i change my oil evey three to five thousand miles anyway so it would be hard to say. Their website says you can go higher between changes though.

i started using it immidiately after i picked up my wifes explorer sport trac back in dec 06 and when i change the oil every 3 grand or so, it comes out clear caramel colored, its a clean burning oil for sure, but to say it burns faster, well i dont think so, because their website says you can run longer durations between oil changes suggesting it will last longer rather than burn faster.

Have you done any UOA's of your oil? If not then please don't say things like it hasn't. Many have and have seen high wear numbers compared to using other oils.

Clear is a bad thing also, that means it's not cleaning. It needs to come out dark so it's cleaning the engine of the deposits.

spiderman · 02-13-2009, 11:15 AM

Esters provide better lubrication because they are "magnetically" attracted to each other (molecules) and to the metalic surfaces in the engine.

Motul has some great info about esters

MOTUL

Essentially what the article says is that normal oil will only protect metal to metal contact while the engine is running. Ester oil, because of it's attraction to the metal surface, will continue to create a film on the metalic surfaces even when the engine is not running.

So in addition to it's ability to be "custom tailored" it prevents excessive start-up wear (this is usually where most of the engine wear comes into play).

As part of the perks my dealership offers at no cost is a lifetime engine/transmission warranty and oil changes for life at $19.99 using the Esther oil which is designed for the 3.7 engine.

NIZMOZ · 02-13-2009, 11:39 AM

Many high quality oils that are PAO based have ESTER in them. Amsoil does as well. RP however does not last I heard.

dad · 02-13-2009, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kdo2milger

it noticably increased a bit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

Haha...butt dynos. Sorry it will not increase your TQ. Maybe if you haven't done a oil change in 20k of miles.

I have to disagree with you! Highly possible! Different cars, different engines, different brands of oil! If not for those factors, we wouldn't have different results!
kdo2milger, last four words are what counts, in making the difference!

NIZMOZ · 02-13-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dad

I have to disagree with you! Highly possible! Different cars, different engines, different brands of oil! If not for those factors, we wouldn't have different results!
kdo2milger, last four words are what counts, in making the difference!

semtex · 02-13-2009, 05:36 PM

So does anyone know if there's a consolidated listing somewhere of all the different brands of oil that contain Ester?

NIZMOZ · 02-13-2009, 07:21 PM

I am not sure if there is a complete list. You should be able to find out by looking at their websites.

semtex · 02-13-2009, 07:50 PM

Yeah I think I'm going to go with the Motul 300V. This thread has been very informative!

NIZMOZ · 02-13-2009, 08:06 PM

Motul 300v is good stuff. You won't be disappointed.

dad · 02-13-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

I take it, that means that you agree with me, and you know I'm right!

02-13-2009, 11:15 AM	#52 (permalink)
spiderman Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 57 Drives: PG Touring/Sport/6M Rep Power: 268	Use the Nissan recommended Ester Esters provide better lubrication because they are "magnetically" attracted to each other (molecules) and to the metalic surfaces in the engine. Motul has some great info about esters MOTUL Essentially what the article says is that normal oil will only protect metal to metal contact while the engine is running. Ester oil, because of it's attraction to the metal surface, will continue to create a film on the metalic surfaces even when the engine is not running. So in addition to it's ability to be "custom tailored" it prevents excessive start-up wear (this is usually where most of the engine wear comes into play). As part of the perks my dealership offers at no cost is a lifetime engine/transmission warranty and oil changes for life at $19.99 using the Esther oil which is designed for the 3.7 engine. __________________ *grateful to be alive ... grateful to drive!*

02-13-2009, 11:39 AM	#53 (permalink)
NIZMOZ Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 634 Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6 Rep Power: 491	Many high quality oils that are PAO based have ESTER in them. Amsoil does as well. RP however does not last I heard. __________________ SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC

02-13-2009, 05:36 PM	#56 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	So does anyone know if there's a consolidated listing somewhere of all the different brands of oil that contain Ester? __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf. Last edited by semtex; 02-13-2009 at 05:43 PM.

02-13-2009, 07:21 PM	#57 (permalink)
NIZMOZ Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 634 Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6 Rep Power: 491	I am not sure if there is a complete list. You should be able to find out by looking at their websites. __________________ SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC

02-13-2009, 07:50 PM	#58 (permalink)
semtex A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Behind enemy lines Age: 54 Posts: 5,995 Drives: People to drink Rep Power: 32	Yeah I think I'm going to go with the Motul 300V. This thread has been very informative! __________________ "There are no small accidents on this circuit." -- Ayrton Senna 316.8whp & 248 ft/lbs (Dyno Dynamics) \| 319whp & 256 ft/lbs (DynoJet) (04/23/10) Stillen G3 CAI, CBE, Pulley / F.I. LTH / GTSpec Ladder Brace / Setrab Oil Cooler / UpRev-tuned by Forged Perf.

02-13-2009, 10:09 AM	#48 (permalink)
Phil Wallace Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Connecticut Posts: 34 Drives: 1991 300ZX TT Rep Power: 219	OK, I have gotten some information from Nissans Technical Training center. For those of you who prefer whatever oil you choose, thats your choice. Nissan recommends ESTER oil in the 370Z and the Maxima for the following reasons. Ester oil bonds better than conventional oil to certain metals. Ester oil is recommended for the 370Z per the owners manual because it will reduce the noise in the Vvel valve setup found in the Maxima and the 370Z. Its your vehicle, use what you want, If a common complaint occurs on this site in relation to excessive valvetrain noise, please check to see if you are using what Nissan's Engineering and design team recommends or if you are using your own personal preferrence....

02-13-2009, 08:06 PM	#59 (permalink)
NIZMOZ Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 634 Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6 Rep Power: 491	Motul 300v is good stuff. You won't be disappointed. __________________ SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC

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