Our Z vs New Mustang 5.0

red6spd

Yea same as a 350. But from what I hear the 350 and the 370 are very very different. I love Jap cars so my choice is gonna be bias. But the Stang does one thing good straight line.

fullmonty

I love my Z but FO MO CO FTW

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Lug

A .94 is very good and beat lots of really good handling cars like an S2000. It also slaloms at over 68 mph which doesn't quite match the 370Z, but it's definately very close. The mustang definately doesn't just do "one thing good straight line" anymore. You are thinking older mustangs. The 2010 even with the older 4.6L was far supierior to prevous stangs in all round handling and the 2011 is an improvement on that. I have doubts that the Z is gonna be able to keep up on any track larger than autocross parking lot tracks. It's gonna need a power boost soon.

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Dan37TZ

Horsepower IS the calculation of TORQUE at a certain RPM. So in reality, horsepower numbers is what you really want to look at, how it's delivered, and how the gearing of the car puts the power to use. Gearing and horsepower curve is what you want to look at.

Also you mention you love motors that make lots of torque down low, yet you pick a front wheel drive car. I've owned high powered FWD cars and lots of low end torque in a wrong wheel drive car is MAJOR fail, traction issues, wheel hop, torque steer, a nightmare. A low flat torque curve in a motor that loves to rev for high rpm power is the way to go for FWD cars. That's why Honda > VW all day long when it comes to FWD performance (oxymoron) oriented cars.

My modded JB3 335i makes 400+ft lbs of torque at 2500rpm. Is it fast? HELL YES. Is it fun to drive like the Z? Not even close, I think sports cars should be revved out for power. Shoving a huge V8 that makes huge amounts of torque down low and runs out of steam right when you want to rev it out into a pure sports car like the Z is retarded. If anything, a low torque, short stroke high revving small displacement V8 (like 4.0L V8 in the E90/92 M3 would be amazing for the Z) It only makes 295ft lb of torque yet it revs to 8300 and is amazing.

fullmonty

As I started reading your post I was only gonna post 'Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races' but instead I'm going to agree with you in full

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kailua

Yes

efuseakay

There's always going to be a "next best thing" that comes out soon after you buy any car.

Just enjoy what you have and stop thinking about everything as one big competition.

kailua

Yes, I agree with you, however, I think the context of what I was trying to say has been lost.

The original post has to do with the fact that mnms370Z is having fleeting thoughts of maybe selling his Z and getting a Mustang with the new 5.0 V8.

Great, fabulous, whatever, I am not one to judge what vehicle he may be content with; he may really like the new Mustang, I don't know. Not for me to say, it's his decision.

I mentioned that I would love to have a Z with the new 5.6 V8 in the Infiniti M56. I then mentioned how I liked the instant torque of the 5.7 V8 in my Tundra. This is all for daily driving. I am not tracking a Tundra or the Z nor the GTI.

But of course the minute I mention that I moved on to a GTI, the fanboys are all over it, calling FAIL, like I just sold their first born to buy a burrito.

I am a pretty fickle guy so I usually hold on to my vehicles for a really short time and move on to something different. So just like the 09 370Z and the 09 STI and all the other vehicles I have owned, including the controversial GTI in about 6 months I will be driving something else.

And yes, I know, depreciation, and cost, etc of selling so soon, but this is my hobby and like a lot of folks on the 370Z forum I have the means to change out vehicles frequently.

So the fanboys that I was referring to earlier, need to get over it and stop being such brand whores.

pompey

wouldnt matter,i guarantee that our Z's would beat the mustang anyways

kailua

Aren't the Mustangs still using a solid rear axle? They spend so much money on developing all other aspects of the vehicle but stick to the solid rear axle for tradition purposes?

Too bad all those rumors of a GTR coupe for Infiniti never panned out.

Maybe a M56 coupe down the pipeline? It would be nice to have Infiniti have a full size V8 powered coupe to compete with the germans.

zZSportZz

The new mustang wouldn't be too bad, if it wasn't so damn ugly. Might be one of the ugliest mustangs I've seen in my humble opinion. Can't argue with the performance though.

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ZKindaGuy

Some history for you....Ford tried the IRS in the 2003 Mustang Cobra Terminator. The half-axles kept snapping in two under the extreme torque produced. Consumers complained. Ford listened. So they went back to solid axle. It had absolutely nothing to do with tradition. It has evrything to do with the Musatng being an extreme torque monster.

Hi-Step'n370Z

I agree also.

red6spd

Dont get me wrong the Stang is a great handeling car, but its still uses old technology like the solid rear. I cant believe they put a 6spd in it lol. Anyway I bet the Z would do just fine up against a Stang on the track. Look at the stats. Besides MotorTrend that got crazy high numbers some how 12.8 in the 1/4 the Stang is just about as fast as the Z.

ZKindaGuy

A little more history......They put the 6sp in it because the consumer asked for it because many folks modify from 3.55's to 4.10's. Having 5 gears with 4.10's would cause straightliners to have to start in 2nd OR start in 1st and risk missing 2nd. With a 6sp it resolves that problem though 1st gear still gets sucked up almost immediately at the start.