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USAFstevo 05-07-2010 05:04 AM

Ive got about 4k to spend on parts, help me figure out what to buy! Please..
 
If all goes to plan I should be picking up my new PW Z once I return from Vegas in about 2-3 weeks. I have an extra 4grand that I plan on putting into my Z. I’ve been looking at different parts but I want to make sure I get the most bang for my buck. I plan on getting an oil cooler but other than that what parts do you suggest that I buy that will give the best improvement over its stock counterpart. FYI I do not plan on installing coil-overs or springs. Another thing I was considering was installing a test pipe since there are no emissions where I am stationed. Thanks for all of your help and suggestions!

Vegitto-kun 05-07-2010 05:44 AM

Fast intentions exhaust + fast intentions long tube headers + stillen cold air intakes are a nice thing to spend money on

Jeffblue 05-07-2010 06:06 AM

geta clear bra too then use the rest on w/e

ZKindaGuy 05-07-2010 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 528268)
Fast intentions exhaust + fast intentions long tube headers + stillen cold air intakes are a nice thing to spend money on

The Fast-Intention's complete exhaust install from headers to tips with installation, required tune and a CAI added in comes to a little over $4000. The dynos they have posted to YouTube specific to a 370Z show and overall gain of 21 RWHP and 17 ft-lbs. of Torque.

Cost per HP gained: $191 / 1 HP gained
Cost per TQ gained: $235 / 1 ft-lb. gained

Unless you are adding on a blower or turbo which makes the intake and exhaust mods almost mandatory, the cost per HP/TQ gain FAR SURPASSES any gains to be made with redoing your exhaust. It's absurd and rediculous to spend these figures for such a diminutive return.

Save your money for something else.....

RandyJamesA 05-07-2010 07:37 AM

Real Estate is always a good investment.

shadoquad 05-07-2010 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 528269)
geta clear bra too then use the rest on w/e

:iagree:

6spd 05-07-2010 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyJamesA (Post 528308)
Real Estate is always a good investment.

ah dammit, beat me too it:tiphat:

DIGItonium 05-07-2010 07:49 AM

If you want to remain N/A... Stillen G3 Intake, Fast Intentions Exhaust, HFC, NonStopTuning crank and alternator pulley (with new slightly smaller Gates belt), and a tune. If you can't get dyno tuned, get the Cobb Access Port with competition tune preloaded. Shave some weight off the car while you're at it. I'm pretty sure you can do this for under $4k.

If you plan on force feeding the engine, then save up for a supercharger.

Xan 05-07-2010 08:27 AM

If it's not a sports package, I would add an LSD.

Scott @ RA 05-07-2010 08:52 AM

For four grand I would do our RA light weight two piece brake rotors and coilovers and maybe sway bars. (if it is a sports package car)

terbo 05-07-2010 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott @ RA (Post 528359)
For four grand I would do our RA light weight two piece brake rotors and coilovers and maybe sway bars. (if it is a sports package car)

He totally said he doesn't want coilovers. I would get wheels and tires.

Jeffblue 05-07-2010 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by terbo (Post 528367)
He totally said he doesn't want coilovers. I would get wheels and tires.

I agree

Juruki 05-07-2010 10:49 AM

wheels+tires+springs

RCZ 05-07-2010 11:00 AM

Im gonna say get intake/exhaust/hfc/oil cooler/spacers/clearbra and labor.

wishihadnav 05-07-2010 11:05 AM

4k?..take it to the baccarat table n double up!...haha

Daishi 05-07-2010 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DIGItonium (Post 528319)
If you want to remain N/A... Stillen G3 Intake, Fast Intentions Exhaust, HFC, NonStopTuning crank and alternator pulley (with new slightly smaller Gates belt), and a tune. If you can't get dyno tuned, get the Cobb Access Port with competition tune preloaded. Shave some weight off the car while you're at it. I'm pretty sure you can do this for under $4k.

If you plan on force feeding the engine, then save up for a supercharger.

ditto.. cept id recommend the Injen intakes over the stillen due to fitment.

kenchan 05-07-2010 11:46 AM

i think you should get a hood damper first. :D

USAFstevo 05-07-2010 01:16 PM

It is a sport package, probably should have mentioned that... Good ideas so far everyone it's def. Giving me ideas. Got anymore?

FuszNissan 05-07-2010 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 528495)
Im gonna say get intake/exhaust/hfc/oil cooler/spacers/clearbra and labor.

:iagree:

Vegitto-kun 05-07-2010 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 528286)
The Fast-Intention's complete exhaust install from headers to tips with installation, required tune and a CAI added in comes to a little over $4000. The dynos they have posted to YouTube specific to a 370Z show and overall gain of 21 RWHP and 17 ft-lbs. of Torque.

Cost per HP gained: $191 / 1 HP gained
Cost per TQ gained: $235 / 1 ft-lb. gained

Unless you are adding on a blower or turbo which makes the intake and exhaust mods almost mandatory, the cost per HP/TQ gain FAR SURPASSES any gains to be made with redoing your exhaust. It's absurd and rediculous to spend these figures for such a diminutive return.

Save your money for something else.....

Aaand yeees? so?

getting anything like a turbo or supercharger is going to cost more than 4000. waaay more than 4000.

Osiris 05-07-2010 01:53 PM

A boob shifter handle and a high end escort (and i'm not referring to a radar detector!) :icon23:

ZKindaGuy 05-07-2010 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 528723)
Aaand yeees? so?

getting anything like a turbo or supercharger is going to cost more than 4000. waaay more than 4000.

And you missed my entire point completely....I am perfectly aware that doing the blower or TT puts him way out of his money range that he is willing to spend at this moment but that in itself coupled with the outragious intake/exhaust ROI breakdown makes my case even more that the exhaust makeover just shouldn't be done since he would be paying far more than the power he would make out of doing it.

In simple math terms:

$4K costs him: $191 / 1 HP gained and $235 / 1 ft-lb. gained.
12K costs him: $ 70 / 1-HP gained and $ 80 / 1 ft-lb gained.

In addition by adding the blower or TT it would likely increase his asking price for the car if he were to sell it which could work in his favor if he is still upside-down in his loan he may have on the car at the time of selling it.

Adding just an exhaust isn't going to increase the value of the car in any way, shape or form nor contribute to providing any amount of offset advantage if he is upside-down in any loan he may have on the car at the time of the sell.

You can't argue with the hard numbers because it just plainly SCREAMS for itself that the exhaust makeover is a total rip-off unless he couples it with the blower or TT where then it can at least be dollar-justified by the big power to be gained.

Zsteve 05-07-2010 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 528286)
The Fast-Intention's complete exhaust install from headers to tips with installation, required tune and a CAI added in comes to a little over $4000. The dynos they have posted to YouTube specific to a 370Z show and overall gain of 21 RWHP and 17 ft-lbs. of Torque.

Cost per HP gained: $191 / 1 HP gained
Cost per TQ gained: $235 / 1 ft-lb. gained

Unless you are adding on a blower or turbo which makes the intake and exhaust mods almost mandatory, the cost per HP/TQ gain FAR SURPASSES any gains to be made with redoing your exhaust. It's absurd and rediculous to spend these figures for such a diminutive return.

Save your money for something else.....

So in the thread abou their exhausts shows 20 just for the CBE doesnt it? So now they are saying other wise?

Zsteve 05-07-2010 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott @ RA (Post 528359)
For four grand I would do our RA light weight two piece brake rotors and coilovers and maybe sway bars. (if it is a sports package car)

All of these items stock are just fine for street driving, no need IMO unless you plan on tracking.

Zsteve 05-07-2010 06:02 PM

FI CBE=good gains and great sound
Stillen G3 (if gains stated are true)= good gains and nice sound


That should leave you about $2K for gas for having fun.

or use it for a down payment on the SC

WICKED_GRIN 05-07-2010 06:09 PM

Ford stock

Scott@FontanaNissan 05-07-2010 08:34 PM

This is probably the wrong thing to say as a vendor here...but I don't care...I'm a racer first ;)

Spend the money on track days, fuel, brake pads, and rubber....enjoy your car first the way it is...then once you really feel comfortable with your car, upgrade what you feel the car is lacking. (Oil cooler wouldn't help first though if you plan to do any aggressive driving)

Scott

ZKindaGuy 05-07-2010 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott@FontanaNissan (Post 529164)
This is probably the wrong thing to say as a vendor here...but I don't care...I'm a racer first ;)

Spend the money on track days, fuel, brake pads, and rubber....enjoy your car first the way it is...then once you really feel comfortable with your car, upgrade what you feel the car is lacking. (Oil cooler wouldn't help first though if you plan to do any aggressive driving)

Scott

This is quite refreshing to see a vendor making a statement that DOES NOT ACT to put someone elses money into his own vendor's pocket first.

I salute you, Scott, for having such integrity in this day and age where the vendor's think first only of themselves at the total expense of their customers.

:tup::tup::tup::tup::tup:

cab83_750 05-07-2010 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott@FontanaNissan (Post 529164)
This is probably the wrong thing to say as a vendor here...but I don't care...I'm a racer first ;)

Spend the money on track days, fuel, brake pads, and rubber....enjoy your car first the way it is...then once you really feel comfortable with your car, upgrade what you feel the car is lacking. (Oil cooler wouldn't help first though if you plan to do any aggressive driving)

Scott

Get the clear-bra first. Hen follow what Scott said. Nothing is worst than a nicked-up/bruised-up hood and bumper. After the clear bra, you should have a little bit over $3,000 to spend.

ZCarMan 05-08-2010 03:32 AM

1. Clearbra/Ventureshield
2. Exhaust
3. High Flow Cats
4. Cold Air Intakes

Vegitto-kun 05-08-2010 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZKindaGuy (Post 528843)
And you missed my entire point completely....I am perfectly aware that doing the blower or TT puts him way out of his money range that he is willing to spend at this moment but that in itself coupled with the outragious intake/exhaust ROI breakdown makes my case even more that the exhaust makeover just shouldn't be done since he would be paying far more than the power he would make out of doing it.

In simple math terms:

$4K costs him: $191 / 1 HP gained and $235 / 1 ft-lb. gained.
12K costs him: $ 70 / 1-HP gained and $ 80 / 1 ft-lb gained.

In addition by adding the blower or TT it would likely increase his asking price for the car if he were to sell it which could work in his favor if he is still upside-down in his loan he may have on the car at the time of selling it.

Adding just an exhaust isn't going to increase the value of the car in any way, shape or form nor contribute to providing any amount of offset advantage if he is upside-down in any loan he may have on the car at the time of the sell.

You can't argue with the hard numbers because it just plainly SCREAMS for itself that the exhaust makeover is a total rip-off unless he couples it with the blower or TT where then it can at least be dollar-justified by the big power to be gained.

Over here every mod lowers the price of the car. especially forced induction modding.

Exhaust + lth + cai + tuneup are the best ways to increase HP without resorting to modifying the engine itself.

ZKindaGuy 05-08-2010 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun (Post 529436)
Over here every mod lowers the price of the car. especially forced induction modding.

Exhaust + lth + cai + tuneup are the best ways to increase HP without resorting to modifying the engine itself.

I don't disagree with your Exhaust + lth + cai + tuneup...IF IT WERE A MUSTANG because the prices for the comparable kinds of parts for a Mustang are NOT through the roof as they are for the Z.

The Z being considered an import allows the manufacturers to really stick it to the consumer and charge outragious prices for any parts. These outragious prices just completely kill the ROI when doing this kind of mod to the Z since the power gains made are so dimimutive compared to the dollars spent to achieve that mere pittance of a gain. That's why this mod you suggest requires coupling it with a forced induction mod as well in order to achieve a sensible ROI.

Having been modding Mustangs most of my life I can tell you that most comparable mods made to a MUSTANG can be achieved at 1/2 the overall cost of those made to Z's. That's why the ROI when doing Mustang modification is so good!


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