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trent1331 05-02-2010 01:11 PM

:shakes head:

Sucks man.

Smallywood 05-02-2010 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 521735)
true that you guys always make money one way or another. Hey you wanna release some untold secrets about the way you guys sell cars and the best way to get the best deal?

What kind of information are you looking for?

bucketman 05-02-2010 02:08 PM

I am in no way saying take things in your own hands, but if the cops in Okie city are like the one's down here..... well we have a guy named Marvin, 100$ a tooth. Give him 300$, you get three of the guys teeth.

370Zsteve 05-02-2010 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Smallywood (Post 521525)
This makes zero sense.

1st- Where's the pics of your tire damage?

2nd- I sell cars and the sales manager never enters the customer info for a deal. Salesmen always run the formalities, even if the owner of the dealership makes a sale. Even if a sales manager ups and closes a deal, it goes to the salesman for a commission, sales managers will gross on closing, but regardless the salesman still makes coin too...

So in closing, the story just don't make sense?

I sold motorcycles, and the sales force never entered info for a sale by the owner or the sales manager. They always handled the paperwork themselves, they probably didn't want us to see how low they sold it for :tup: so each dealership is different.

Smallywood 05-02-2010 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 521978)
I sold motorcycles, and the sales force never entered info for a sale by the owner or the sales manager. They always handled the paperwork themselves, they probably didn't want us to see how low they sold it for :tup: so each dealership is different.

Each dealership is a bit different, however the sales staff is well aware of what the true cost of any vehicle is to a dealership.

kannibul 05-02-2010 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SMcK23 (Post 521751)
Let's face it---it sucks...but its property damage! Cops need to worry about a lot more stuff than that! "Tire slashing" sure isn't on the top of their list of crimes to solve, but there is no point for the owner to "take matters into his own hands" and kick the crap out the guy. It will only lead to him geting an assault charge all for some low-life.

Point is, assault on a vehicle isn't the same as assault on a person - on a person you will face a judge at the very least.

The police here won't do anyhting except in the case of injuries AND damn near impervious proof. They're too worried about the gangs on the north side, and truth be told, I'd rather they go after some gang-bangers on the north side, than to deal with a tire-slasher.

The police here will basically tell you "that's what insurance is for"

kannibul 05-02-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bucketman (Post 521977)
I am in no way saying take things in your own hands, but if the cops in Okie city are like the one's down here..... well we have a guy named Marvin, 100$ a tooth. Give him 300$, you get three of the guys teeth.

That's a pertty good deal...:icon14:

nuTinmuch 05-02-2010 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 370ZGhost (Post 520660)
Got two of my tires slashed tonight, caught the prick in the parking lot doing it but he got away.....in his black sport z....yes a black 370z...it was a guy i actually ran into earlier in the night... i mentioned that i worked at one of the local nissan dealers, i told him which one...and than he flipped balls cause we wouldnt sell him a black sport z at invoice last month...story is he just waltzed in, would only work with a new car manager not a salesman cause he didnt want any "bs"...that he recieved at another dealer across town... he just expected us to be the same...but were not...were pretty reputable. so my manager gave him a good price...few hundred of invoice but he turned it down and went back to the other side of town and bought for hundred less or smthn.....said he liked our dealership but not our prices..whatever. were all here to make money. what pisses me off also is he just wanted to rule out a sales guy...you know we have to make a living too...ugh...anyhoo...so i guess the guy and his buddies followed me for awhile and when i went in a store they did their handy work...but they are morons and now i have a idea of who they are...so im just going to track them down...but thats pretty gay for some dude to do that, to take his anger out on my z,...cause he couldnt save a couple hundred bucks and buy a z at invoice....what a douchebag....sorry for my hatin'...just pissed at people....mainly d'bags who dont get their way....mainly cause they are d'bags and no one likes them.

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steveg78 05-02-2010 06:48 PM

$100 a tooth? Where was Marvin when I had my wisdom teeth pulled?

It sucks to "do the right thing"...I think if it was the heat of the moment I might be impulsed to beat the crap out of a jacka$$ like that until he stopped moving... I had someone back into my 300ZX back in the day. I knew who it was since it was my ex's neighbor. When I approached her later that day after work, she totally denied it claiming her daughters scraped her bumper when they were learning to drive. Funny that my paint was on her bumper and I knew it was fresh damage since I walked past her car EVERY day... I wish I had gone with my original plan and hacked her trunk open with a pick axe.

What are the chances that the douche who slashed your tires is a member here? I'd say pretty damn high.

Zsteve 05-02-2010 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bucketman (Post 521977)
I am in no way saying take things in your own hands, but if the cops in Okie city are like the one's down here..... well we have a guy named Marvin, 100$ a tooth. Give him 300$, you get three of the guys teeth.

so he is kinda like the tooth fairy in a demonic way huh?

Zsteve 05-02-2010 07:13 PM

so how many guys here would let some guy come up to your girl and just look her up and down in front of you or persist to make comments about her and not do anything? I kinda like the days when a physical asss wooping would prevent people from doing things cuz they were afraid to get their butts whooped but today that is why crime is rampage cuz we (meaning the US in genreal) are now afraid to do anything that will make the criminals be afraid to do things. We need to get back to an eye for eye theme to some degree. But its a wierd world today so you do have to be more careful than before. OK enough of my rant.

Zsteve 05-02-2010 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Smallywood (Post 521933)
What kind of information are you looking for?

How much under invoice do they really uy the cars for? And when its all said an done is there monies that the salesman gets that he doesnt let us know about? Things like that.

bucketman 05-02-2010 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 522307)
so he is kinda like the tooth fairy in a demonic way huh?

Yea, that's a good way to look at it!
But, like others have said we have become kinda pussified, I mean right is right. I believe in having the cops involved but sometimes it seems that something like a tire slashing doesn't merit the same passionate response that the victim will have. Not really their fault, just the way it is.

DMcSee 05-03-2010 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bucketman (Post 521977)
I am in no way saying take things in your own hands, but if the cops in Okie city are like the one's down here..... well we have a guy named Marvin, 100$ a tooth. Give him 300$, you get three of the guys teeth.

:eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :eek2:

kannibul 05-03-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bucketman (Post 522636)
Yea, that's a good way to look at it!
But, like others have said we have become kinda pussified, I mean right is right. I believe in having the cops involved but sometimes it seems that something like a tire slashing doesn't merit the same passionate response that the victim will have. Not really their fault, just the way it is.

A better method would be to loosen the brake bleeder on one wheel.

Not like they're not accessible.

370ZGhost 05-03-2010 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lando76 (Post 520832)
Did you say you went into a store while they did this? could you go back and ask them if they have cameras. If so JACKPOT!

YA, police did...but according to where i parked...it didnt help out to much....didnt catch the 'act' but it did catch the specific car pulling in and leaving.

370ZGhost 05-03-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul (Post 521067)
I drive a black Z sport/touring, and I will assure you, it's not me (I bought mine in June!)

There's another black Z that's around my area, sport/touring as well, but I've seen him around since summer, so he'd not have "just bought it"...

I'll keep my eyes peeled. That's nuts...

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Originally Posted by SMcK23 (Post 521139)
Not worth getting in trouble over...let the police handle it...you did the right thing by filing that report...



I know it wasn't kannibul....it's just a SPORT...black sport m/t...no touring

Ya, im letting police handle it, i just hope they do something. I want to f*** this guy up but its not worth losing my job, or going to jail.

thanks for the support.

all is good now, ive had new tires on her, and my work (the dealer) tried hooking me up as much as possible with tires.

semtex 05-03-2010 10:42 AM

Well, you don't have to f the guy up to get revenge. You could f his car up though. If you find him, pry open his gas tank lid and dump a bag of sugar down into it. That'll do.

370ZGhost 05-03-2010 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 522880)
Well, you don't have to f the guy up to get revenge. You could f his car up though. If you find him, pry open his gas tank lid and dump a bag of sugar down into it. That'll do.

:roflpuke2: lol, ya. ive heard that one before. i'd be more inclined to do something to his automobile rather than him.

C4talyst 05-03-2010 11:39 AM

Sounds like he should be easy to find..

370Zsteve 05-03-2010 11:43 AM

^ agree. If the guy is caught, OP you can also send a Police Blotter report to his employer, that will completely fck him up, and legally :tup:

WICKED_GRIN 05-03-2010 11:46 AM

This story sounds a little fishy………..post the police report

SkyZ 05-03-2010 05:54 PM

haha i agree with the legal option of screwing the guy over. i dont condone illegal activities :icon17:

shoopajae10 05-03-2010 06:29 PM

i thought if you dont file a police report on site, then it doesnt matter anymore?

I remember my mom had her tail lights busted by some idiot, and we didnt file a police report. but my retard neighbor came to us 3 months later and told us he knew who did it and he finally had to balls to come tell us. and he said he will be our witness. we called the cops and they said it was too late because we did not file a police report then.

but anyway i think of karma, this guy will total his Z going 100+mph and lose both legs.

anyway.. time for new tires!

Santent 05-03-2010 07:55 PM

Dude, you actually saw him do it? He was probably wasted. I would go fi d his wife or his girl and tap that ****... Forcefully hha

Danny3.7 05-03-2010 08:28 PM

^^dude what if she is some obese fat ***?? or damn what if he's a homo?

awesome avatar btw! ;)

semtex 05-03-2010 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny3.7 (Post 523571)
^^dude what if she is some obese fat ***?? or damn what if he's a homo?

:iagree: Or what if she (assuming the dude isn't a homo) has irritable bowel syndrome?

usps370z 05-03-2010 08:31 PM

We all make choices in life that have consequences. This loser made a choice now he must face the consequence. I seriously doubt the police will provide a satisfying outcome to your situation. If law enforcement pulls through then great it's over. If not, don't be consumed with revenge. But if the opportunity presents itself then seize it. Keep in mind what comes around goes around and karma will take care of this loser. Good luck and sorry to hear that.

Zsteve 05-03-2010 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 522930)
^ agree. If the guy is caught, OP you can also send a Police Blotter report to his employer, that will completely fck him up, and legally :tup:

but if it cant be proven then he could sue for slander.

Smallywood 05-04-2010 05:07 AM

You guys keep replying to this like it really happened. Where's the OP?

Smallywood 05-04-2010 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 522316)
How much under invoice do they really uy the cars for? And when its all said an done is there monies that the salesman gets that he doesnt let us know about? Things like that.

The price below invoice is the "holdback" and varies by model, but for easy numbers lets say $500. The holdback is the dealership profit. The gross profit is for commissions and dealership profit. As a salesman you can (usually do) earn coin on gap, extended warranties, and any other add-on all drive the gross profit up. Even financing earns dealer/sales profit. Dealers do things differently here and there, but at the end of the day it's the same. Any time you can go invoice or lower (manufacturer incentives/rebates) you got a reasonable price. Incentives are usually not available on specialty model vehicles.

CWofRR 05-04-2010 05:56 AM

why would a fellow z enthusiast defile another z? wtf? i hope u get the guy

370Zsteve 05-04-2010 07:56 AM

Another vandalism thread where the OP vanishes :ugh2:

Duuuude, we are all waiting with bated breath to hear what happened.

semtex 05-04-2010 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 524157)
Another vandalism thread where the OP vanishes :ugh2:

Duuuude, we are all waiting with bated breath to hear what happened.

Maybe we haven't heard back from him because he found the guy, confronted him, but got his a$$ handed to him (the OP, that is). I hope not, but you never know.

Smallywood 05-04-2010 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 524209)
Maybe we haven't heard back from him because he found the guy, confronted him, but got his a$$ handed to him (the OP, that is). I hope not, but you never know.

Lol - When's the last time you saw someone vandalize a car at a dealership that is open for business fully staffed and full of customers to increase their chances of being caught... You can't even get out of your car without someone following you around trying to sell you something! Lmao

Zsteve 05-04-2010 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Smallywood (Post 524522)
Lol - When's the last time you saw someone vandalize a car at a dealership that is open for business fully staffed and full of customers to increase their chances of being caught... You can't even get out of your car without someone following you around trying to sell you something! Lmao

dont think thats how it happened

Zsteve 05-04-2010 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 524209)
Maybe we haven't heard back from him because he found the guy, confronted him, but got his a$$ handed to him (the OP, that is). I hope not, but you never know.

He should have suckered punched him then. Or got the trunk monkey after him.

370ZGhost 05-05-2010 03:54 AM

Sorry I havent updated anything...Been working few all day shifts. But the good news is tuesday they tracked him down at his home and questioned him. Since the surveillance didn't catch the 'act'...they had to get him to confess, and he did...rather quickly I was told. His reason on doing it was something along the lines that he had been frustrated with our dealership not giving him the price he wanted...and he was even frustrated with the dealer he bought at...and paid more than he wanted to. But he took it out on me cause where I work and that I drive a Z too? Even though I wasn't even involved or saw him when he came in. Makes me feel better that my friend officer pat said he was pretty nervous and even scared with what was going to happen to him. But I am pressing charges, and going to make it where he has to pay for the cost of damage, tow, etc. The guy is a Douchebag...he was the night I bumped into him. Cocky and full of himself...I didnt like the kind of person he was right off that bat. sometimes you can just sense the kind of person they are. And its' e-z to sense a cocky d-bag...that didnt get his way...and obviously has a temper tantrum when that happens....now its punishment time....via Tulsa Police. I honestly am suprised how fast they tracked him down,...cause as kannibal mentioned earlier...cops take for ever to respond and follow through with anything around here, unless someones near death. But the fact that I was able to tip the police where the kid bought his car and somewhat of a time frame of when...they said that helped....and they were able to pick up 'some information' in the surveillance video...tag i assume........but its getting wrapped up now...he's caught,....he will soon get sentenced to whatever punishment...whether it probation, community service hours, or 30 days in the slammer, or combo....its been taken care of legally. and most importantly i am satisfied, so far.

fullmonty 05-05-2010 07:24 AM

I'm glad it worked out for you!

370Zsteve 05-05-2010 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by semtex (Post 524209)
Maybe we haven't heard back from him because he found the guy, confronted him, but got his a$$ handed to him (the OP, that is). I hope not, but you never know.

:icon17: LOL, he can't post from his prison cell :icon17:


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