Follow-up analysis to Car & Driver crashing Nismo 370Z at VIR

SE

I'm actually working on making a good DIY on brake ducting for the Nismo. I'll post results soon

ChrisSlicks

If you boil the brake fluid you can have good brakes on one stop and pedal to the floor on the next, I've done it and it's not fun.

Their summary is correct, the brake cooling on this car is non-existent, one of the worst I've ever had. Normally you get some cooling in the vented rotors by the spinning cooling vanes acting as an air pump, but on our cars the aerodynamics prevent it from happening to much effect. I don't care if you have upgraded brakes from AP or Brembo, you have the same problem.

The next mod this car needs is brake vents, period. I don't understand why none of the vendors have stepped up to the challenge.

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Mize

But vettes don't have brake vents...just calipers on the back end of the wheel...

That said, I'm all for a well-designed brake vent. It seems it would need more than just a duct to the wheel well to cool the front-mounted caliper area.

ChrisSlicks

There needs to be a custom backing plate so the air can be directed at the hub and pushed through the vents.

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Mize

Yeah, seem this isn't enough on its own:

370Zsteve

Sure looks like a ton of air would be aimed at the brakes with that fascia.

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Mize

Anyone got a reasonable guesstimate on getting that Stillen fascia painted to factory colors?

370Zsteve

ask the guy in the stillen fascia thread, he just had it done on his black Z

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Mize

Just found that one. He paid about $500-600 for paint, mount and blend.
I would imagine a nearly new car could get away with paint and self-mount.

MightyBobo

Lawl, isnt this exactly what plenty of us said months ago? And then there were the C&D haters who said they had a lack of skill...whatever. Their mail-room boys have more track experience I'd bet lol.

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G Fo12ce

Combined with a vented fender it would be a pretty serious cooling set up. I always likes the way 370Ztune's signature looked. Minus the flare this would look pretty sick especially if the vents were bare carbon and the rest was painted:



Or something more mild that would flow with the already vented rear Nismo bumper like the GTR has:

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ZKindaGuy

Yea but the problem is in order to justify their publishing of the magazine and possibly to point the finger away from themselves in terms of liability in light of the crash that occurred during the first test event, the author/editors wordsmith the story so that the testing and resulting data reads to sound as if its judgement applies as well to the overall safety, quality and driveability of the 370Z while driving under normal conditions.

There is in the way they chose to write this critique a very fine obscure line between truth and "yellow journalism" so they have backdoors to squirm through when necessary yet render an unjustified negative judgement upon the car and manufacturer.

And one has to consider this may be again another attempt to discredit foreign car makers in the court of American public opinion since the American car industry had to be bailed out. Whereas Toyota and Honda got fried by Congress and by the media, Nissan managed to escape the fire in the first time around.

I find it interesting the sole focus of the written review was only the braking system as if to vaguely lay down a veiled suggestion that somehow Nissan has the same quality problems as Toyota and Honda as recently identified and incessantly harped on by the media.

SoCal 370Z

Sorry, I do not buy that for one minute. Nissan has been notorious for dismissing issues through their "value-laden" tag lines. Example, Exhibit A: "The addition of an oil cooler would have raised the price of the car and potentially moved it out of the reach of some customers."

They sell the 370Z under the sports car category, but expect it to be driven like a Yugo as anything above is not considered regular usage or considered "race track" driven. Nissan needs to get real and cease hiding under corporate lawyer written veiled statements that are the epitome of "vague and ambiguous."

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Kyle@STILLEN

The question has been asked "when is one of the vendor's going to step up and begin developing a cooling kit for the brakes?"

We actually have been working on a few options.

1) Our front fascia. Yes, this is more elaborate and will change the exterior appearance of your car so it won't be for everyone, but we have created brake cooling ducts for the fascia. They will be on display next week at our open house event and will be launched soon.

2) I don't want to talk about our other option just yet as it is very unique to the aftermarket industry and no one else has anything like it so you'd better believe I'm going to keep it "hush hush." I can confidently say that it will be the best form of brake cooling hands down.

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