Nurse Shark and a Cow............
 

Motortrend had some less than flattering things to say about our beloved Roadster. I suppose it's nice to be included in that particular conversation, but really.....

needs to satisfy the eyes and ears? wtf are you kidding me? compared to a TT and a Z4? :gtfo2:

buncha goddamn eurosnobs, always have been and always will.

lol...I have to admit, I'm not a fan of the roadster either..and the engine has always been a sticking point with the media.

Still, who the hell cares? It's a magazine's opinion. Enjoy your car through your eyes, not someone elses.

I like this guy's comment:
lol what?

i also agree. The roadsters just are kinda ugly looking, but no where near as fugly as the 350 roadster.

The only opinion that counts is the one person buying it! Magazines borrow a couple cars, put em through their paces and give their results.To me it's just blah..blah...blah.
I already know the good and bad of nissan/infinti products and prefer them over audi,bmw,ford and the rest.There's alot of "sheep" that let car magazines tell them what they should like and why.


I ain't "sheep".

I thought Z4's were for wife swapping parties? :confused: not for motoring.

All true but at least they could be a lil more accurate in the description....... hows about a Great White with a lil junk in the trunk. Cross between a Nurse shark and cow is just wrong!!

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Dont feel bad its the guys who recently said the 2011 mustang v6 was faster and better handling out of the cars compared but the genisis is still better becuase you sit lower in the car hehe.

I think there tools.

Motortrend is terrible.

That's all, really.

Consider what every other publication had to say about the roadster. Hell, consider what Jalopnik had to say about it -- and I trust their opinion more than Motortrend.

Also, if price is no object why aren't they testing cars 20k above the Porsche or TTS?

Am I the only one baffled here?

mmmmh,they think a $66k porche out preforms a 30k Z....You know these guys went for lunch later in a fine restaurant like McDs and rated they like the fillet o fish better then the big mac.

Give me back that filet-o-fish, give me that fish.

THIS does not look like a cow...side profile is the best of all the cars, don't you agree?

http://image.motortrend.com/f/274713...r-top-down.jpg

It all depends on the angle. The 370Z is a polarizing design... you either love it or you hate it, especially in roadster trim. The TT and Boxster are generally more aesthetically pleasing to the majority of people. The Z4 is a little quirky.

The engine isn't buttery unfortunately... they have a fair point on that one, my dad's old mazima 3L vq was like butter... where did nissan go wrong...

on the other hand i reckon the roadster looks stunning...

As much as I love the 370, and I DO think the design is beautiful and aggressive, the roadster does look like an afterthought to me. The way the lines of the car start to swing down at the rear of the doors, only to kick back up at the rear fenders....... and those rear haunches, they look out of place on the roadster...... what looks aggressive and powerful on the coupe, to me, looks overweight and "jacked up" on the roadster. I seriously don't mean to offend any roadster owners with these comments, as the roadster is a fine sports car, but asthetics and styling are VERY subjective......... one man's diamond is another man's lump of coal :p

I told you we should have gone to Taco Bell!:stirthepot:

Then he'd be telling you to "give me back that gordita" :p

The Boxster S starts at 20K above the base Z roadster, but add similar option packages and the Porsche starts to skyrocket in price. I priced similarly equipped Z roadsters and Boxster Ss and the difference ended up being around 30k. A better comparison is the non-S version of the Boxster.

The aesthetics of the Z roadster are a subject of controversy ... But like all aesthetic choices it's rather subjective. That said, anyone who thinks the Z4 is better looking than the 370ZR need their eyes checked ;) What clinched the Z for me over the Porsche was the sheer uniqueness of the Z roadster. It's rare in my area (even the coupe is relatively rare compared to the Mustangs and Camaros). I can sometimes see at least 4 Boxsters and a couple of TT coupes a day, but I have yet to see another Z roadster on the road and I live in the middle of a metro area with over 1 million people.

So what is our official 0-60 mph time? They have it at 4.9 seconds. I thought it was 4.7 sec.

this review's a bit of a funny one, we have a magazine here down under and they do two kinds of tests.

BFYB - bang for your buck where performance is measure against cost
PCOTY - Best performance car with no consideration for cost

Seems as though they were ignoring the cost here which can be valid i guess. What is not valid is to rate a car better for styling when they seem to be measuring performance... No one can rate styling except for ssangyong who make the fugliest cars ever closely followed by subaru.

Why would they ignore the price difference and then start looking at styling... these people are stupid...

I've seen two other Z roadsters and fewer than 10 coupes in my metro area of 6 million people and 55+ mile commute (round trip), so our numbers are bearing out, I suppose. I agree that Boxsters and really all styles of Porsches seem to be a dime a dozen around here. Most TTs I see are hardtops and I've only seen one new Z4 on the road since they came out.

That said, I never expected this car to be rare. Nor did I buy it because it was all I could afford. I craved this car. I've owned an MZ3 and a 330CiC -- both "higher end" cars than the 370ZR -- and have never felt this way about a car. I get nothing but thumbs-up everywhere I goand the power, performance and style of the car are in a league apart from the rest.

The Bimmer in this test looks great and I can vouch for the powertrain, but the retract hardtop kills the roadster feel to me. The Porsche is an excellent car all around and probably the clear winner, but is a bit dated and bland in styling and way overpriced. The Audi would probably get my nod for most intriguing offering of this bunch -- in the true spirit of a roadster, I like a light, tossable car -- but again, the value proposition isn't quite there for me. That's where the 370Z makes such a statement.

This is truly a step-up, no-compromises car that presents an amazing value proposition relative to the other cars tested. I know that's not supposed to factor in and I understand the allure of suckling at the German design teet. However, if all cars tested were within $2000 or so of one another, I'd put the Nissan second in this competition.

As it is, I'd give it first.

That's basically what I thought. I cross-shopped the Boxster and it clearly is a nice car, but something about the styling didn't do it for me.

If thats a cow its a sexy cow, plus sharks are bad ***. Motor Trend can shove it

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Right on! Who doesn't like cows! :tup:

370Z @ 3232# = 4.7s where the 370ZR @ 3432# +/- = 4.9s
Every 100# (+/-) = .1s 0 to sixty (+/-)

I think the 370ZR front is more like a Tiger Shark with a Jessica Biel rear!

So let me see if I got this straight.

motortrend says 370Z is butt ugly.

motortrend says Audi TT and BMW Z4 are purty.

Conclusion = Motortrend is worthless.

I believe if all the cars were black…………the ZR would have received better reviews in styling!

Motor trend...Motor trend....rings a bell....oh, right, that's what I use for toilet paper when the roll runs out. Worst car rag on the planet, Petersen Publications, all of them, suck. Worst magazine publishing company, their peers have always laughed at them.

My opinion is that the 370 roadster has come a long way from where the 350 roadster left off, its a pretty big improvement. On the other hand, I wish that Nissan had stuck with the T-top style even though its a bit outdated. T-tops are bad *** and maybe they wouldnt have to fiddle with the sexy curves on the coupe as much.

This^

If most websites (and even humans) compare our beloved 370Z's to vehicles that cost twice as much, shouldn't we consider it a compliment? I mean, how many times to you hear someone talking up a Stock Chevy Cobalt or a Ford Festiva and comparing it to a 370Z? /shrug

ugh last place...lol

True that. We should be very happy to be compared to higher priced cars and still get thumbs up. Could they really pick a car that is 30k less than the competitor or just think what nissan could really do with 30k more put into building the z roadster? I think its all about nissan capturing a segment of the market where the others cant touch. Just think about how impressive the z roadster is now.

Not quite $30k, more like 10-20k:

2010 Audi TTS 2.0 TFSI quattro 2009 BMW Z4 sDrive35i 2010 Nissan 370Z touring 2009 Porsche Boxster S
Base price $49,725 $52,475 $41,240 $57,495
Price as tested $56,320 $63,095 $46,205 $66,505

well, i'm not entirely shocked with the results, i mean, the nissan was the one and only non luxury vehicle in the group, so its impressive that they chose it to be apart of the comparison. aside from that, i am amused that even though they thought the Z drove better than the Z4, the styling is what set them back. for me, function over style. i certainly think looks play a large part in purchasing a vehicle, but if it drives like crap, i'm not buying it.

like everyone has said in this thread, the whole comparison was based on opinion. you'll get groups that will love/hate each one of those cars and will spout out 100 reasons each one should be #1. for me, do i think the Z falls in dead last? probably not, i think it should be slotted above the Z4, but its merely my opinion :)

If you compare them similarly equipped the difference is much more than 10 to 20k -- at least the difference between the Boxster S and the 370Z roadster -- the base price difference without options between those two is at 21k

Edmunds lists the base MSRP price on the Boxster S as 58K. It goes up from there once you start adding enough to make it equipped similarly to a loaded roadster. I believe the 66k "priced as tested" for the Boxster S in the comparison was for a poorly equipped Boxster S. Almost everything is "ala carte" with the Porsche -- They charge separate options charges for special gear shift nobs, aluminum trim in the interior, bluetooth connection, etc. You should see the list. You can option out quite nicely, but you'll pay for it. It doesn't take long for the options to get the S well about 70K. A fully optioned out Boxster S can be higher than a base 911 price.

Roadster, Coupe - Coupe, Roadster. Bottom line, they're both 370Z'S!

I love the Coupe, and I love the Roadster. I wish I had one of each, to be honest.

All I can say is that I am so happy with my Roadster that I could care less what someone says about it. I know what I have, and I know how absolutely thrilled I am with it.

I have seen three Coupes and one Roadster on the road over the last couple of weeks, and I think it's great to see a nice Coupe cruse by, then a Roadster shoot past.

I mean we Z owners have the market cornered!!! We have the best of both worlds out there. NO other car can say that! I don't care how much they sell for.

I love the Coupe and I love the Roadster, and I am enjoying being a part of this GREAT family of 370Z's.

So, stop paying attention to those idiots who somehow find something bad to say about the 370Z. We have one and they don't = they LOSE!!!
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Well said. In general I believe as you do, but I am human and sometimes get upset when confirmation of my choice seems to be lacking, but I'll get over it -- especially since the sun will be out tomorrow, it will be in the mid 80s, and I'll have the wind running over the few hairs on my head.