Almost at my breaking point

Z-WHIZ · 04-08-2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

If you check this guy's posts over the past year, you will see that he is OCD to the max. He puts towels on his seats so they "won't get scratched". Replaced his front bumper due to chips. Freaked out because he scratched his grille with his fingernail. Has a scrape underneath his car that is freaking him out. Has eight pinhole marks on his wheels that are freaking him out. Washes his wheel-wells.

He bought a black Z after his friends warned him not to 'cause of his OCD-ness. His friends know him well.

What can I say? I have an OCD problem, at least I admit it.

Are you guys saying that these scratches, nicks, etc. wouldnt bother you?

Montez · 04-08-2010, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

If you check this guy's posts over the past year, you will see that he is OCD to the max. He puts towels on his seats so they "won't get scratched". Replaced his front bumper due to chips. Freaked out because he scratched his grille with his fingernail. Has a scrape underneath his car that is freaking him out. Has eight pinhole marks on his wheels that are freaking him out. Washes his wheel-wells.

He bought a black Z after his friends warned him not to 'cause of his OCD-ness. His friends know him well.

Wow,

dropped1 · 04-10-2010, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by texmedic

am i the only one who is freaked out that you're using a depth guage to measure the paint? Brother you gotta not worry so much and let that go.

Its actually quite common in the detailing community to measure paint thickness prior to doing heavy paint correction...

Check out autopia.org if you want detailing tips Z-WHIZ. Plenty of profressional detailers, and enthusiasts. Some extremely OCD with their car detailing.

Don't get a budget paint job...you won't be happy. First lesson learned, Don't ever buy a black car!

ZYGOTE · 04-10-2010, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dropped1

Its actually quite common in the detailing community to measure paint thickness prior to doing heavy paint correction...

Check out autopia.org if you want detailing tips Z-WHIZ. Plenty of profressional detailers, and enthusiasts. Some extremely OCD with their car detailing.

Don't get a budget paint job...you won't be happy. First lesson learned, Don't ever buy a black car!

Some interesting stuff on there, thanks for the suggestion.

cab83_750 · 04-07-2010, 11:51 PM

Oh you can detail our cars to death. But much like physics, if the paint is too thin, then chipping will occur again. Catch 22!

efuseakay · 04-07-2010, 11:54 PM

Invest in some yoga sessions to calm yourself and your OCD. It's car... and a black one at that. It's going to show just about everything. It's just how the cookie crumbles.

Enjoy the car!

gumpy · 04-07-2010, 11:55 PM

what is this orange peel effect people speak of?

cab83_750 · 04-08-2010, 12:18 AM

Look at the skin of an orange fruit. Then look at the finish of your car. There should be some similarities (ie orange peel)

a professional hand-made paint would be almost like mirror (glass-like) in smoothness/finish.

I feel sad when people who just spent big bucks on their bimmers and mbs with orange peel finish.

gumpy · 04-08-2010, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cab83_750

Look at the skin of an orange fruit. Then look at the finish of your car. There should be some similarities (ie orange peel)

a professional hand-made paint would be almost like mirror (glass-like) in smoothness/finish.

I feel sad when people who just spent big bucks on their bimmers and mbs with orange peel finish.

yeah my car's got this effect on the doors and stuff if you look at it from an angle... =( dang it... my dad's audi doesn't however ...

Correction: audi does have this effect and due to the dark colour looks worse than my Nissan

cab83_750 · 04-08-2010, 12:21 AM

Btw don't be fooled by the clear coat finish. On robot-sprayed cars try to look at base coat; that would the paint underneath the clear coat.

cab83_750 · 04-08-2010, 12:45 AM

Disclaimer:

I am by no means a professional painter. Yes, I painted 2 cars in my garage without blowing up the house and the cars turned out great. I made $$ out of them.

What I would like to share is what I remembered when reading a painter's book: "The paint actually does not dry.....and it should not. If it dries, it becomes dull. Thus, the other purpose of 'waxing cars' is to supplement to oil that the paint needs to remain wet. Keeping the paint 'oiled/wet' makes it shine."

This info/theory blows me away up to today. It is similar to welding: Do you guys know that metal actually evaporates?

nuTinmuch · 04-08-2010, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Z-WHIZ

I'm getting very close to just selling my 370. I love everything about the car, but the paint issue is just driving me crazy. I did a full detail about 2 months ago and it did help minimize some of the scratches, but I can't remove them fully. There are rampant water spots that won't come off, tiny annoying chips, among other things. Everyone told me I was too OCD for a black car and I should have listened. Problem is I don't know if things would be betteror worse with a different color. As Ive heard paint issue stories for all colors. What really put me over the top was when I was wiping a spot on the trunk with a brand new microfiber towel and it put several scratches in the paint that I can't buff out!

Sorry to vent guys and it breaks my heart to do it, but I think I might have to get rid of her.

I bet you're driving on the PA TP, lol.

In all seriousness, you aren't going to find a "new" car these days that doesn't have paint issues somewhere. It's just the way the industry has gone with new regulations and what have you. I know it is annoying and it sucks to see it happen to your car, but it happens.

Vegitto-kun · 04-08-2010, 06:10 AM

guy I went to for my rims and advise on mods said it would be cheaper to get my car color stickered which is something like clear bra but colored. He said you can hardly see the difference and if your tired of the color you can just take it off. supposed to be alot cheaper

SiXK · 04-08-2010, 07:27 AM

How much research did you do before buying a black car and cleaning it?

I have a black 370Z that I bought 15 months ago. I don't have any waterspots and no scratches (well, you'll probably find a few tiny scratches if you look real hard but not many at all). I have a couple of rock chips and a scratch where a mini cooper bumped me in a parking lot, thats it.

I am NOT ocd about my car either, but I regularly wash and wax it.

Strip all the wax from your car with dawn. Use P21S paint cleaner to get the waterspots off (don't know how successful that will be, I haven't had to remove any, but P21S is real good stuff).

Once you get the surface clean, use Zaino Z6 for black cars. It will keep the waterspots away. Apply 3 coats initially. Wax it every 4-6 weeks with a couple of coats. It last and last and you never have to strip it.

Do not use microfiber, some are good most are cheap. Use 100% cotton terry cloth towels MADE IN THE USA. 100% cotton terry cloth will NOT scratch your car. Its all I use. 100% terry cloth towels from other countries are usually NOT 100% terry cloth. Get towels from detailed image or some other reputable vendor.

My car gets filthy, and then cleans up beautifully with no scratches or watermarks. If you are so OCD you should be able to keep your clean with the right products.

370Zsteve · 04-08-2010, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Z-WHIZ

What really put me over the top was when I was wiping a spot on the trunk with a brand new microfiber towel and it put several scratches in the paint that I can't buff out!

The towel was brand new but so what, wiping dirt with a towel is going to scratch your paint.

04-08-2010, 07:27 AM	#14 (permalink)
SiXK Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orlando Posts: 352 Drives: 09 370Z / 91 300ZXTT Rep Power: 186	How much research did you do before buying a black car and cleaning it? I have a black 370Z that I bought 15 months ago. I don't have any waterspots and no scratches (well, you'll probably find a few tiny scratches if you look real hard but not many at all). I have a couple of rock chips and a scratch where a mini cooper bumped me in a parking lot, thats it. I am NOT ocd about my car either, but I regularly wash and wax it. Strip all the wax from your car with dawn. Use P21S paint cleaner to get the waterspots off (don't know how successful that will be, I haven't had to remove any, but P21S is real good stuff). Once you get the surface clean, use Zaino Z6 for black cars. It will keep the waterspots away. Apply 3 coats initially. Wax it every 4-6 weeks with a couple of coats. It last and last and you never have to strip it. Do not use microfiber, some are good most are cheap. Use 100% cotton terry cloth towels MADE IN THE USA. 100% cotton terry cloth will NOT scratch your car. Its all I use. 100% terry cloth towels from other countries are usually NOT 100% terry cloth. Get towels from detailed image or some other reputable vendor. My car gets filthy, and then cleans up beautifully with no scratches or watermarks. If you are so OCD you should be able to keep your clean with the right products. __________________ Magnetic Black 2009 370Z / Pearl Yellow 1991 300ZXTT Last edited by SiXK; 04-08-2010 at 07:29 AM.

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04-07-2010, 11:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
cab83_750 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 887 Drives: 09 NISSAN 370Z Rep Power: 418	Oh you can detail our cars to death. But much like physics, if the paint is too thin, then chipping will occur again. Catch 22!

04-07-2010, 11:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
efuseakay Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The DAYNGA ZONE! Posts: 404 Drives: 2010 G37xS Sedan Rep Power: 16	Invest in some yoga sessions to calm yourself and your OCD. It's car... and a black one at that. It's going to show just about everything. It's just how the cookie crumbles. Enjoy the car!

04-07-2010, 11:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
gumpy Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 449 Drives: 09 370z white manual Rep Power: 16	what is this orange peel effect people speak of?

04-08-2010, 12:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
cab83_750 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 887 Drives: 09 NISSAN 370Z Rep Power: 418	Look at the skin of an orange fruit. Then look at the finish of your car. There should be some similarities (ie orange peel) a professional hand-made paint would be almost like mirror (glass-like) in smoothness/finish. I feel sad when people who just spent big bucks on their bimmers and mbs with orange peel finish.

04-08-2010, 12:21 AM	#10 (permalink)
cab83_750 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 887 Drives: 09 NISSAN 370Z Rep Power: 418	Btw don't be fooled by the clear coat finish. On robot-sprayed cars try to look at base coat; that would the paint underneath the clear coat.

04-08-2010, 12:45 AM	#11 (permalink)
cab83_750 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 887 Drives: 09 NISSAN 370Z Rep Power: 418	Disclaimer: I am by no means a professional painter. Yes, I painted 2 cars in my garage without blowing up the house and the cars turned out great. I made $$ out of them. What I would like to share is what I remembered when reading a painter's book: "The paint actually does not dry.....and it should not. If it dries, it becomes dull. Thus, the other purpose of 'waxing cars' is to supplement to oil that the paint needs to remain wet. Keeping the paint 'oiled/wet' makes it shine." This info/theory blows me away up to today. It is similar to welding: Do you guys know that metal actually evaporates?

04-08-2010, 06:10 AM	#13 (permalink)
Vegitto-kun A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,011 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 263	guy I went to for my rims and advise on mods said it would be cheaper to get my car color stickered which is something like clear bra but colored. He said you can hardly see the difference and if your tired of the color you can just take it off. supposed to be alot cheaper