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bigdog1250 03-29-2010 07:57 PM

2011 Mustang GT... I think I need to re-think my next car
 
Hey guys, I've been Z'less for the past 2 horribly long years, but finally I'm back in a position to buy a car and I've been amazed at all the great cars in the $30K range. Motor trend just released some figures on the the new 2011 Mustang GT 5.0 and it looks like pure sex. The numbers are so good in fact that they have made me look away from the beautiful 370z. The only number the 5.0 hasn't bested the Z in is in lateral grip at .94G which is still outstanding! Take a look at this article and please share your opinions on the new Stang compared to the 370z.

P.S. I still think the Z looks better and has a better interior layout, but that's about all I can think of in the Z's favor. One article said the 5.0's interior was approaching Audi territory...

Article:
2011 Ford Mustang GT Premium First Test - Motor Trend

m4a1mustang 03-29-2010 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog1250 (Post 471660)
Hey guys, I've been Z'less for the past 2 horribly long years, but finally I'm back in a position to buy a car and I've been amazed at all the great cars in the $30K range. Motor trend just released some figures on the the new 2011 Mustang GT 5.0 and it looks like pure sex. The numbers are so good in fact that they have made me look away from the beautiful 370z. The only number the 5.0 hasn't bested the Z in is in lateral grip at .94G which is still outstanding! Take a look at this article and please share your opinions on the new Stang compared to the 370z.

P.S. I still think the Z looks better and has a better interior layout, but that's about all I can think of in the Z's favor. One article said the 5.0's interior was approaching Audi territory...

Article:
2011 Ford Mustang GT Premium First Test - Motor Trend

If you can wait, hold off and test drive one.

While the feel is quite different (the Z feels and is a little more nimble), the Mustang still has loads of grip and can attack on a road course. Of course it's going to absolutely own down the strip, and if the 5.0 responds to bolt ons like the 3v 4.6 did, it's going to be a monster with an intake, exhaust, and a tune. :tup:

theDreamer 03-29-2010 08:02 PM

http://www.the370z.com/other-vehicle...ang-5-0-a.html

Crazy8 03-29-2010 08:19 PM

I left a Mustang for a Z. Loved my stang, love my Z. If you wanna drag, buy a stang. If you want handling the Z is the way to go.

PapoZalsa 03-29-2010 08:24 PM

Well the 2011 Mustang GT 5.0 should bring back that real power of those years back in the 80s.

Nick911sc 03-29-2010 08:27 PM

It'll be a beast. Even the v6 will put up strong numbers. Still love my Z. I'm not a fan of American cars, but ford has really gotten it's **** back together. I'm sure anyone who gets it will LOVE it as much as I love my Z.

LH1 03-29-2010 08:39 PM

Very impressive numbers. I really like that Grabber Blue color.

Interior looks pretty good too.


I still prefer the Z to this but I understand the temptation for some current Z owners.

AK370Z 03-29-2010 08:43 PM

VERY VERY impressive numbers. I personally have never drive mustangs but one of the problem I think buying a mustang is that you'll have 6 other Mustang GT in your same block. There's no exclusiveness. Everyone and their cousins, uncles and nephews have one! That's the ONLY thing I never liked about it. I like my car a little more exclusive ;). If those specs are correct, this new 5.0 will be a very fun to drive car. GO FOR IT :tup:

Terror 03-29-2010 08:43 PM

I traded an 08 Mustang Bullitt for my Z, and I love my Z but I will always have a thing for mustangs...

Mag350Z 03-29-2010 08:57 PM

very impressive numbers and overall review
either the Mustang GT or the 370Z will likely replace my current 350.
The 3600 lb curb weight however is a few hundred pounds more than I would like. Also I think the styling of the 370 is far superior to the GT.

o0javi0o 03-29-2010 08:57 PM

apparently great car to come. Still, I'm not convinced on American cars (just my opinion) yet.

Mag350Z 03-29-2010 08:58 PM

still a 12.8 1/4 mile at 110 mph is in base Corvette territory

aliveZ 03-29-2010 09:02 PM

Nice power numbers on the Mustang, but I think the styling is awful.

Zigen5 03-29-2010 09:04 PM

This just in... Check this out!!! 2011 Ford Mustang GT 5.0 Full Test and Video

m4a1mustang 03-29-2010 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mag350Z (Post 471813)
still a 12.8 1/4 mile at 110 mph is in base Corvette territory

Not quite. A base C6 should still be a good bit quicker than the Mustang. A little more power and about 400 fewer lbs. It's a low-mid 12 second car stock.

Still, that is pretty damn fast.

Lemers 03-29-2010 09:06 PM

Look it's a great car. Definitely one to consider. Both cars have great reasons to choose them. Bottom line drive the cars you'd want to own and pick the one you like the most. You gonna have to live with it. And never look back.

FuszNissan 03-29-2010 09:12 PM

Too bad I love them twisties!

Red370 03-29-2010 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FuszNissan (Post 471852)
Too bad I love them twisties!

and coming from a guy whos car will blow the 5.0 away:rofl2:

on a more serious note, seems supercharging is going to be a must if we plan on running these things, damn.

theDreamer 03-29-2010 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 471854)
and coming from a guy whos car will blow the 5.0 away:rofl2:

on a more serious note, seems supercharging is going to be a must if we plan on running these things, damn.

Well...basic bolt ons will put you 1:1 to a fair drive, but how many Mustang drivers roll around stock? It will get interesting in a few months when these hit the streets and people start modding them.

SmoothZ 03-29-2010 09:18 PM

I used to have a 5.0 GT. It was already modded, but I owned it for 6 months and sold it. Could not EVER really enjoy the shitty interior, the ancient body design, and the crappy rear suspension.

While I appreciate the effort, my 1990 300ZX outhandled and outmaneuvered the 5.0 back in the day. I like the sound and potential of the old 5.0, but they rated them at 225 hp from the factory. So weak compared to my Z32 that had a 3.0 V6.

efuseakay 03-29-2010 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 471854)
and coming from a guy whos car will blow the 5.0 away:rofl2:

on a more serious note, seems supercharging is going to be a must if we plan on running these things, damn.

And then they will have superchargers too... the game never ends.

I say to anyone... get whatever you like, and call it a day! Who cares what anyone else has! :tiphat:

m4a1mustang 03-29-2010 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by efuseakay (Post 471870)
And then they will have superchargers too... the game never ends.

I say to anyone... get whatever you like, and call it a day! Who cares what anyone else has! :tiphat:

They offer them pretty much from the factory. I'm sure it will be the same for the 2011s. Go to the dealership, order your car, tell them you want the FRPP blower. Everything's taken care of before you take delivery of your new 500+ whp, 500+lb-ft Mustang.

We'll never win the displacement battle.

m4a1mustang 03-29-2010 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by efuseakay (Post 471870)
I say to anyone... get whatever you like, and call it a day! Who cares what anyone else has! :tiphat:


That's what it comes down to. Quit worrying about what everyone else has and enjoy what YOU do. If you worry about what the next guy has or what they think about you, you'll NEVER be happy!

theDreamer 03-29-2010 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 471878)
That's what it comes down to. Quit worrying about what everyone else has and enjoy what YOU do. If you worry about what the next guy has or what they think about you, you'll NEVER be happy!

Especially when you live your life a quarter mile at a time. :ugh2:

m4a1mustang 03-29-2010 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 471881)
Especially when you live your life a quarter mile at a time. :ugh2:

I overnighted parts from Japan (read: California) tonight. :icon18:

FuszNissan 03-29-2010 09:31 PM

And unicorn blood

ZKindaGuy 03-29-2010 09:31 PM

Being a Mustang officianado that I am:

1969 Musatng Grande
1996 Mustang 3.8L
1997 Mustang Cobra
2003 Mustang "Terminator" Cobra
2005 Mustang GT
2006 Mustang GT "Mach 1 Tribute"
2007 Shelby Mustang GT

I still think the 2010+ backend design is absolutely hideous!! :barf: They should have kept the S197 (2005-2009) backend design.

Montez 03-29-2010 09:42 PM

Wow for the V8 and wow to the V6, you can't caught sleeping on the V6 version.(5.1 to 60@13.7@ 102mph)!

40th370z 03-29-2010 09:48 PM

You can join the Camaro Owners an have a differing color, so the best way to find your car in a parking lot is to hit the alarm a few times.You can tell yourself your car is special....not rare but special.

Imagine how many Stangs are out there already,and only owners will be able to tell the difference in the year or engine packages.

10k Zs or so in '09 probably the same numbers again this year.

Latest Camaro production numbers (April 09) - Camaro Forum - 2010 Camaro 2011 Camaro / Camaro Z28 SS Forums - Camaro5.com

I think the last page says about 30k Camaros so far and GM is hoping for 100k units a year ,do your think Ford wants a piece of that market,how many Mustangs will they build?

Hurray for the generic muscle car,change your rims so yours will be a bit different for the other 3 on your block.

steveg78 03-29-2010 09:52 PM

I just looked at it for the first time...First impressions:

Looks exactly like the current 500+ Mustangs I see on the street today. No major body overhaul from first glances, initial impressions. If you're looking to blend in with the general population I guess this is good.

Interior looks cheaper than my 03 Liberty. Actually, it reminds me of the Chrysler 300 interiors. Cheap city. Blah plastic and ENOUGH with the throwback gauges.

Upon watching the video linked above, I couldn't help but notice body roll as well as the complete nosedive the car makes under hard braking. Looks real sloppy.

Sure the numbers are impressive. But what are your intentions? Drag strip? Daily driver? I think those should be the deciding factors when weighing the Mustang and 370.

B1nks 03-29-2010 10:00 PM

Also just on a footnote if we SC our 370z, which is another 8k give or take, then our 370z price just went to 40k+, depending on the package you bought it at, and you're putting down about the same power levels for the 32k Mustang. Also you won't have all the overheating issues more than likely and probably not the brake lockup issues. Hmmm..

Nick911sc 03-29-2010 10:13 PM

Looks like with all the defectors over to the mustang the 370z will be more exclusive :tup:

WICKED_GRIN 03-29-2010 10:29 PM

I owned a (new) ’95 Mustang and it had zero problems…..loved that car! The new 5.0 stang is a gorgeous car and 0 to 60 in 4.5 and 13.0 in the ¼ miles are great stock numbers! My ONLY complaint is the non independent rear axle. Yes it is faster than the stock Z, but it’s a four seater….if you want a four seater, it’s the best bang for the buck for 2011, Hands down!! And like AK stated….everyone and their mother is going to be driving one!! Has anyone else noticed how ford stock has more than quadrupled in the past year…..Ford is a great American car company.

Red370 03-29-2010 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick911sc (Post 471966)
Looks like with all the defectors over to the mustang the 370z will be more exclusive :tup:

this is true, but all their traded in Z's will be sold to high school age douchebags that'll just make driving even more of a pain in the ***.

m4a1mustang 03-29-2010 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 472011)
this is true, but all their traded in Z's will be sold to high school age douchebags that'll just make driving even more of a pain in the ***.

You should write Nissan a letter using that fact as one of the reasons why they need to give us more power. :icon18:

Nick911sc 03-29-2010 10:40 PM

Yea.. but all those magazine benchmark racers in HS(at least in my area) have parent's who buy them any car they want. So I'm sure they'll still be getting the mustangs. And besides my 370z it's a rare day I see any other in my area.

m4a1mustang 03-29-2010 10:42 PM

I live in the Z capital... Been seeing 5-6 370s a day lately.

And around these parts 350s are just as popular as Mustangs.

Though the Porsche 911 and BMW 3 series are by far the most popular rides in Northern VA. :D

TJZ 03-29-2010 10:42 PM

pure numbers is 1 thing that makes a car...

IMO the styling and handling of the 370 outweighs the performance gain of the mustang....I personally think the stang is pretty ugly....

Also, it sounds like every man and his dog in the US has a stang? Probably like how here in Aus everyone drives Ford Falcons and Holden Commadores... I could have bought a FPV GT for a slightly better 0-100kph time but I refuse to because they are so common and don't feel as special. As others have noted before, the 370 is a little more exclusive (well in my area it is).

40th370z 03-29-2010 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 472011)
this is true, but all their traded in Z's will be sold to high school age douchebags that'll just make driving even more of a pain in the ***.

Not sure if that is a good thing or not selling them to high school kids,will make them much rarer for sure,because a lot would be wrapped around a telephone pole.

The BlueMax 03-29-2010 10:45 PM

Without too many costly options its a great preformance bargin the engine and drivetrain will be great, but the interior and even exterior styling will never be up to Z standards, as well as handling and build quaility. I've owned 4 firebirds and 1 camaro, I respect the mustang but I'm on a new path now. Just give me a detuned GTR powerplant or a 5.6 liter V8 out of the Titain and the mustang will just fade away.......


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