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Originally Posted by Zaggeron How about an article from the New England Journal of Medicine NEJM -- The Health Care Costs of Smoking "Conclusions If people stopped smoking, there would
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03-25-2010, 09:35 PM
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Lets kill all the felons to save money on prison costs...same logic, right? Less prisoners in prison, therefore it'll cost less! Also, in the discussion part of the article, they are disclaiming a "related diseases" and the care involved in correcting those issues. They're just looking at people who smoke, vs people who don't smoke, where as smoke is the direct cause of the doctors visit. That's like saying people who have HIV aren't sick, because AIDS is a side effect and shouldn't be counted, therefore HIV isn't bad. Last edited by kannibul; 03-25-2010 at 09:41 PM. |
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03-25-2010, 09:36 PM
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Some people might advocate that. Considering it costs about $60k a year per inmate. lol |
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03-25-2010, 09:43 PM
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Just ship them to Etheopia, where $1/day can feed a family of 32 and ensure this (poster) child can have clean water and go to school. I saw it on a commercial - lol. |
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03-25-2010, 09:48 PM
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I am not advocating any of that. I was simply responding to your unsubstantiated claim that smoking causes increased medical costs. I stated it doesn't and provided some evidence for my claim.
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03-25-2010, 09:51 PM
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Four words in a very related argument where both sides prop up articles that have more holes than the Ozone Layer: Man Made Global Warming |
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03-25-2010, 09:55 PM
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How Much Does Smoking Cost Society? From the article: "Vanderbilt University economist Kip Viscusi studied the net costs of smoking-related spending and savings and found that for every pack of cigarettes smoked, the country reaps a net cost savings of 32 cents. It looks unpleasant or ghoulish to look at the cost savings as well as the cost increases and it's not a good thing that smoking kills people," Viscusi said in an interview. "But if you're going to follow this health-cost train all the way, you have to take into account all the effects, not just the ones you like in terms of getting your bill passed."
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03-25-2010, 10:01 PM
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Also, the article is suggesting we put people down like animals. OK...I guess. I mean, I'm sure that would save us buillions of healthcare dollars, however, imagine all the psychiatric care costs for those who grieve... |
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03-25-2010, 10:07 PM
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here is the actual link to his paper Cigarette Taxation and the Social Consequences of Smoking and you give me a Google link. How many of those 11.2 million articles are from refereed scientific journals? How many have you actually read? Besides, you missed the point completely. Your search was on "smoking is bad". I never claimed it wasn't. Anyway ... "smoking is good" nets Results 1 - 10 of about 64,600,000 for smoking is good. (0.27 seconds) That's 64.6 million to your 11.2 milliom. I win 
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03-26-2010, 12:52 AM
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