What!!!! No ashtray

FoxMan · 03-25-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

My guitar player smokes, am I supposed to find another musician...one that doesn't smoke? Good luck. As a non-smoking drummer, I'm rare...it seems.

And, also the problem is the arrogance that smokers have - they don't give a **** about other people. If you drove around with your horn blaring, someone would call you on it. Well, that little cancer stick is a horn blaring to all those around you.

Why should the majority of musicians, as you make it out to seem, change to appease you? It sounds to me like you're being the arrogant one.

kannibul · 03-25-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FoxMan

Why should the majority of musicians, as you make it out to seem, change to appease you? It sounds to me like you're being the arrogant one.

Simple. By not smoking, I'm not causing *harm* to other people and have the dillusion that it doesn't hurt anyone.

Personally, I think it'd be great if people could sue for damages relating to 2nd hand smoke (potential medical expenses - $100/indicent sounds fair)...or better yet, could just punch the person smoking (just once), and the smoker couldn't do anything legally (civil or criminal) about it.

That would make sure that smokers keep their habit at home, where they can cause cancer in thier children, pets, and other loved ones.

I think what would finally do it is to put a $20/pack heath-tax on cigarettes...

Zsteve · 03-25-2010, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

Simple. By not smoking, I'm not causing *harm* to other people and have the dillusion that it doesn't hurt anyone.

Personally, I think it'd be great if people could sue for damages relating to 2nd hand smoke (potential medical expenses - $100/indicent sounds fair)...or better yet, could just punch the person smoking, and the smoker couldn't do anything legally (civil or criminal) about it.

That would make sure that smokers keep their habit at home, where they can cause cancer in thier children, pets, and other loved ones.

I think what would finally do it is to put a $20/pack heath-tax on cigarettes...

good idea and that would help fund the new health care bill.. By george you have solved the riddle.

kannibul · 03-25-2010, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

good idea and that would help fund the new health care bill.. By george you have solved the riddle.

LOL...I read on another forum there'll be a 10% heath tax on tanning.

OMFG you'd think the world exploded. Now instad of $20/15 minutes, it'll be $22. Holy crap.

Zsteve · 03-25-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

LOL...I read on another forum there'll be a 10% heath tax on tanning.

OMFG you'd think the world exploded. Now instad of $20/15 minutes, it'll be $22. Holy crap.

And just think I can save $22 dollars by just going outside and tanning and get all leathery skin for free.

But really I think a nice health tax on cigs would really be a good idea, how much is spent on health problems from cigs when you are older? I saw both my parents die from cigs and alcohol.

kannibul · 03-25-2010, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

And just think I can save $22 dollars by just going outside and tanning and get all leathery skin for free.

Depends on where - you don't want to shrivel your willy...and remember no one wants tan lines...

I'm sure there will be "health fines" on items that are just stupid that people do. McDonalds will cost more. Wheat Bread will get cheaper. Raw ingredients will get cheaper. Cigarettes and other tobacco products will get hella more expensive.

Is it a bad thing? No. Will people scream about it? Yep, like 300,000,000 2yr olds.

Zsteve · 03-25-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

Depends on where - you don't want to shrivel your willy...and remember no one wants tan lines...

I'm sure there will be "health fines" on items that are just stupid that people do. McDonalds will cost more. Wheat Bread will get cheaper. Raw ingredients will get cheaper. Cigarettes and other tobacco products will get hella more expensive.

Is it a bad thing? No. Will people scream about it? Yep, like 300,000,000 2yr olds.

I'll just use the new health care and get an implant like women do.

shadow2k · 03-25-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

And just think I can save $22 dollars by just going outside and tanning and get all leathery skin for free.

But really I think a nice health tax on cigs would really be a good idea, how much is spent on health problems from cigs when you are older? I saw both my parents die from cigs and alcohol.

They just raised taxes on cigs last year by over a $1/pack. Taxes on cigs range from $1.50 - $3 per pack. I think that's already excessive. Tax gas, its worse for the environment, and provides plenty of pollution for your lungs.

Zsteve · 03-25-2010, 03:42 PM

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They just raised taxes on cigs last year by over a $1/pack. Taxes on cigs range from $1.50 - $3 per pack. I think that's already excessive. Tax gas, its worse for the environment, and provides plenty of pollution for your lungs.

They do tax gas, it goes up all the time, I dont see cigs going up aon a weekly basis.

dad · 03-25-2010, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

LOL...I read on another forum there'll be a 10% heath tax on tanning.

OMFG you'd think the world exploded. Now instad of $20/15 minutes, it'll be $22. Holy crap.

They also want to know how many calories are in alcohol beverages.