What!!!! No ashtray

370Zsteve

How many died from heart attacks due to alcohol. How many from car accidents, either self-inflicted death or killing someone else? Your numbers are incomplete.

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kannibul

How many died from lung cancer, heart disease, emphazima (sp?), complications with other breathing disorders, and so on. Not to mention those who will get those conditions and eventually die from 2nd hand.

Or lost pregancies and brain damaged children...

Matt

All this from someone asking where the ashtray is? Yikes!

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370Zsteve

Serious business being discussed here, Matt. Got sidetracked by a Camel.

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tjlazer

Not sure what your point is, but the facts are Tobacco use is right up there amongst the leading causes of death for both men and women. Also contributes to the most common cancer (Lung). 90% of lung cancer patients smoked. Some say obesity and heart disease is the number one. Well it's debateable and IMHO both are right up there! It's also said that a one pack a day smoker is like someone being 90 Lbs overweight health wise. Besides to keep this Z related. I rather be buying a 370Z than smoking a couple packs a day! Just think of all that money smokers throw away...

Here some fun facts:
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/node/30

Wow sobering

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fullmonty

Smoking doesn't kill people, cancer kills people. Lord knows everything gives us Cancer now so I will continue to enjoy my tobacco products.
I did a paper for an English class 4 years ago on the Health Benefits of Smoking. It actually reduces your risk of Alzheimer’s, Colon Cancer, Prostate Cancer, and Parkinson’s disease. It also makes you more alert temporarily. Granted it also increases your risk of Lung Cancer, Heart Disease and Emphysema. Theoretically if you picked up smoking a pack a day at 65 years old the health benefits would outweigh the detriments, you would probably be dead from a non-smoking issue before a smoking related issue killed you.

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areyouin729

you seem to see the glass half empty on the 370Z from your posts

Chupacabra

I am not the ones saying its bad... hell I smoked for 10+ years like a b1tch in prison, just quit about 1 1/2 months ago...

I do miss it though... such an enjoyable habit...

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kannibul

So also say the freaks who sh!t (literally) on women and call it "sex"

Chupacabra

^^^ how in the hell is that even comparable?

and really, why is everyone so uptight over smoking? If you don't like it, move away from the person smoking... its really simple.

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kannibul

I have, and yet in order to do some things I'm still stuck being around it.

My Mom, Dad, Sister all smoke. I don't like within 800 miles of them, but everytime I visit, I'm subjected to it, just as I was when I was a child until I was 19.

My guitar player smokes, am I supposed to find another musician...one that doesn't smoke? Good luck. As a non-smoking drummer, I'm rare...it seems.


And, also the problem is the arrogance that smokers have - they don't give a **** about other people. If you drove around with your horn blaring, someone would call you on it. Well, that little cancer stick is a horn blaring to all those around you.

FoxMan

Why should the majority of musicians, as you make it out to seem, change to appease you? It sounds to me like you're being the arrogant one.

kannibul

Simple. By not smoking, I'm not causing *harm* to other people and have the dillusion that it doesn't hurt anyone.

Personally, I think it'd be great if people could sue for damages relating to 2nd hand smoke (potential medical expenses - $100/indicent sounds fair)...or better yet, could just punch the person smoking (just once), and the smoker couldn't do anything legally (civil or criminal) about it.

That would make sure that smokers keep their habit at home, where they can cause cancer in thier children, pets, and other loved ones.

I think what would finally do it is to put a $20/pack heath-tax on cigarettes...

Zsteve

good idea and that would help fund the new health care bill.. By george you have solved the riddle.

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m4a1mustang

The problem is the smoke. It carries and gets annoying. If it didn't smell or and present a second hand safefty risk I don't think anyone would give a damn about it.

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