Actually, I think more people die from smoking than drinking. In fact, I'm pretty damn certain that more people due from smoking than drinking.

yeah your probably right, but I am trying to make the smokers feel a little better.

in the year 2000..

438k died from smoking ( a little exaggerated if you ask me)
76k from alcohol

My mother is the same way with smoking - she HAS to have it. I told her to get it done before we go for a ride (this is in an old car, before I had a respectable DD). She always uses the same line..."well, I'll drop the window a bit...". Yeah, because that totally helps...

BTW, as far as animals, I know someone with 12 ferrets....and holy ****, that house stinks SO bad. Nothing is worse than going to their place to find ferret **** all over the floor because they let them all out to play...

and...speaking of animals, it's not cool littering because birds and other critters eat the cigarette butts

"Animal Lover Here"

you seem to see the glass half empty on the 370Z from your posts

How many died from heart attacks due to alcohol. How many from car accidents, either self-inflicted death or killing someone else? Your numbers are incomplete.

People like you who throw smoldering butts out the window PISS ME OFF.

How many died from lung cancer, heart disease, emphazima (sp?), complications with other breathing disorders, and so on. Not to mention those who will get those conditions and eventually die from 2nd hand.

Or lost pregancies and brain damaged children...

All this from someone asking where the ashtray is? Yikes!

Serious business being discussed here, Matt. Got sidetracked by a Camel.

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Smoking doesn't kill people, cancer kills people. Lord knows everything gives us Cancer now so I will continue to enjoy my tobacco products.
I did a paper for an English class 4 years ago on the Health Benefits of Smoking. It actually reduces your risk of Alzheimer’s, Colon Cancer, Prostate Cancer, and Parkinson’s disease. It also makes you more alert temporarily. Granted it also increases your risk of Lung Cancer, Heart Disease and Emphysema. Theoretically if you picked up smoking a pack a day at 65 years old the health benefits would outweigh the detriments, you would probably be dead from a non-smoking issue before a smoking related issue killed you.

I am not the ones saying its bad... hell I smoked for 10+ years like a b1tch in prison, just quit about 1 1/2 months ago...

I do miss it though... such an enjoyable habit...

So also say the freaks who sh!t (literally) on women and call it "sex"

^^^ how in the hell is that even comparable?

and really, why is everyone so uptight over smoking? If you don't like it, move away from the person smoking... its really simple.

The problem is the smoke. It carries and gets annoying. If it didn't smell or and present a second hand safefty risk I don't think anyone would give a damn about it.