370Z review by a BMW snob

Endgame · 03-24-2010, 09:22 AM

I have driven the 3 series (E46 and E92)..... Sorry... it is not as fun as the Z.....

The BMWs feel like I am in a full suit, giving a presentation to 150 people or execs. Fun to be sure...

The Z feels like me wearing clothing to play sports in, running, tennis, baseball, etc....

While both are fun, I like the sport clothes feel, fun and relaxation more as opposed to the suit feel.

370Zsteve · 03-24-2010, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick911sc

I'm not trying to knock bmw's or german cars either. I just hate so much the type of people who are posting in the other thread. The "soulless" comment gets to me the most.

Yup. Anyone making a comment that a 370Z is soulless has no soul.

370Zsteve · 03-24-2010, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by victort

only 3 series i'd pick over the 370z is the M3! 328 and 335 are SOOOOOO boring... M3 got me going crazy! so in summary... m3 > 370z > G37 > 335 coupe or sedan > 328.

A 335 is not boring by any means.

370Zsteve · 03-24-2010, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rsximus

The 335i pulls pulls very strong and attains speed so fast with such stability that it just wasn't exciting getting there anymore. Kinda hard to explain. Basically I'm cruising 60mph, I pick a spot in traffic, floor it and I shoot out. Next thing I know I'm going 120. I'm like...the hell?, the engine didn't even sound like it tried. No fuss, no drama, no gratification. It's so stable that 120 feels like 80 or 90 in a regular car.

The car has amazing steering feel, and handling that's for sure. Maybe what I'm trying to say is the car is soo good in what it does that it becomes unexciting.

I always thought the 370Z was absolutely stunning in design, so I decided to test drive one. I was hooked after the test. Man did this car get my heart racing, driving position, clutch, gearbox, handling, steering. Everything just seems so RAW yet wrapped in such an elegant and beautiful high quality package. I still don't understand how Nissan is able to sell this car so cheap, this car feels like it's worth 50k compared some of the crap I've test driven.

I get a huge smile everytime I get into the Z and hear that exhaust note come to life, It is suppose to be my weekend car but I find myself taking it to work every day now since I bought it.

Just can't stop driving it.

Great post! Says it all. The 370Z's got soul.

JACKPAC · 03-24-2010, 09:57 AM

I also crossed shopped the 335i, and although the interior is made with better materials, the layout is the poorest and the most boring of any car I'd looked at. The guy from the link was complaining about the interior materials in the 370z and then bought a car (S4) which is on par with ours in performance, but cost $20,000 more! With 20k to spend on custom interior materials I could make seats with panda bear skins stuffed with bald eagle feathers!

Liquid_G · 03-24-2010, 10:09 AM

typical bimmer douchebags..

Chico370Z · 03-24-2010, 10:44 AM

^yeah that's a pretty interesting read over there...that's a forum I hope to never join

Zsteve · 03-24-2010, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rsximus

I'm betting your friend's 335i was manual transmission right? He was probably tuned with either DR's or slicks? 400ft lbs of torque will do that.

There are lots of 11 second steptronic 335i's running around with no problems with axles. If you want to drag race your 335i, the automatics are the ones to get.

So we are ricers because we have a loud car and we track it at the 1/4 mile track. So what does that make BMWs who track thier cars then if its suppose to be a course car? Looks like the bimmers are trying to be ricers too.

Matt · 03-24-2010, 12:42 PM

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Japanese cars are "soulless" and built with 0 passion.

As others have said, the above comment got me the most, especially after seeing that intervew with our member who designed the 370z. My God, that guy personifies passion.

I did enjoy several BMW drivers chiming in and saying that they love the 370z, and even one guy, NYFellas, talking about being a member here and thinking of buying a 370! Love it!

From my own experience, however, the original review did hit the mark on some points (but he missed the mark on many more points). The harshness of the VQ37, especially during early break-in, is horrendous and alarming. 5k was about my stopping point, not due to break-in, but due to my own sense of self-preservation in fear that the car would blow up.

SiXK · 03-24-2010, 01:36 PM

When he started his review like this:

"I was met someone this morning"

I knew immediately I didn't care what this guy said.

When he went on to use the words "awkward", "low grade" and "boyish" in his first paragraph I realized I was right not to care. The guy is biased.

He never cared to review the car objectively or give it a chance.

He really just wrote the whole thing so he and his forum buddies would feel elite with their cars; above the common and unworthy 370Z.

So I just saved myself the trouble and quit reading. If I want to read something dumb I'll get a transcript of obama speeches.

Montez · 03-24-2010, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LSUTurboTiger

When he started his review like this:

"I was met someone this morning"

I knew immediately I didn't care what this guy said.

When he went on to use the words "awkward", "low grade" and "boyish" in his first paragraph I realized I was right not to care. The guy is biased.

He never cared to review the car objectively or give it a chance.

He really just wrote the whole thing so he and his forum buddies would feel elite with their cars; above the common and unworthy 370Z.

So I just saved myself the trouble and quit reading. If I want to read something dumb I'll get a transcript of obama speeches.

I could not have said it better, the O.P is an idiot. He really got a laugh out of me when he said his 328 with etc etc is more fun to drive and as fast as the 370....lol. Moron if I had not seen 1! I think alot of them have so much anger as they spend so much time away from working/ doing the things they want to do just do be in BMW maintenance center 24/7.

dudafunk · 03-24-2010, 03:11 PM

Come and talk when its a 5 or 7 series BMW. A 3 series BMW is like Carnegie Mellon University first building a reputation from its Master's in Electrical and Computer Engineering course, which is hard to get into, and then giving bulk admits in their newer Master's in the INI program which is a spin off, a marketing stunt. A 3 series is also marketing and reaching out to the average masses after building a brand name from something upscale like the 7 series. Its all marketing. I never bother looking beyond when people compare the cheapest of something great overall (the general BMW brand) vs. the greatest of something cheap overall (the general Nissan brand).

elmz · 03-24-2010, 03:37 PM

Forum Waaaar! Yeaaaah!!! JK. I like both cars, but the OP was obviously bias, he did not go in with the intent of reviewing the Z with an open mind. He obviously loves BMW's and whatever 3 series he has. To each his own.

Viera · 03-24-2010, 03:44 PM

BIMMER heads. Whatya expect?

djward · 03-24-2010, 03:54 PM

I've owned a 2007 335 and 2008 M3. All great cars. The rush of the 335 off the line. The rush of the M3 climbing to redline. I've owned many Nissans in the past and loved them all. Do I have a preference? No. Just depends on what I feel like having at that time. The M3 was a pain to drive in this LA traffic along with horrible gas mileage. I did get another manual but the Nismo doesn't tire me in traffic. Can't hate on either brand. Both have spent many years creating the cars we love to drive. Some people need to justify their purchases so they target other popular brands. Just need to brush them off and know that the car you have makes you happy.

03-24-2010, 10:44 AM	#52 (permalink)
Chico370Z Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Bay, CA Posts: 233 Drives: 09 370Z Touring Rep Power: 16	^yeah that's a pretty interesting read over there...that's a forum I hope to never join __________________ 04 Nissan Sentra SpecV: Brembos, Nismo Intake/Exhaust/Short Shifter, Eibach Sportlines, ES MMI - SOLD / / / 09 Nissan 370Z Touring: Invidia Gemini Exhaust, ERZ HFC, GTM 25 Row Cooler, Z1 Tubes, and K&N Drop Ins

03-24-2010, 01:36 PM	#55 (permalink)
SiXK Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Orlando Posts: 352 Drives: 09 370Z / 91 300ZXTT Rep Power: 185	When he started his review like this: "I was met someone this morning" I knew immediately I didn't care what this guy said. When he went on to use the words "awkward", "low grade" and "boyish" in his first paragraph I realized I was right not to care. The guy is biased. He never cared to review the car objectively or give it a chance. He really just wrote the whole thing so he and his forum buddies would feel elite with their cars; above the common and unworthy 370Z. So I just saved myself the trouble and quit reading. If I want to read something dumb I'll get a transcript of obama speeches. __________________ Magnetic Black 2009 370Z / Pearl Yellow 1991 300ZXTT

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03-24-2010, 09:22 AM	#46 (permalink)
Endgame A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,613 Drives: Nothing Now! Rep Power: 224	I have driven the 3 series (E46 and E92)..... Sorry... it is not as fun as the Z..... The BMWs feel like I am in a full suit, giving a presentation to 150 people or execs. Fun to be sure... The Z feels like me wearing clothing to play sports in, running, tennis, baseball, etc.... While both are fun, I like the sport clothes feel, fun and relaxation more as opposed to the suit feel.

03-24-2010, 09:57 AM	#50 (permalink)
JACKPAC Track Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 516 Drives: MB 370z Rep Power: 17	I also crossed shopped the 335i, and although the interior is made with better materials, the layout is the poorest and the most boring of any car I'd looked at. The guy from the link was complaining about the interior materials in the 370z and then bought a car (S4) which is on par with ours in performance, but cost $20,000 more! With 20k to spend on custom interior materials I could make seats with panda bear skins stuffed with bald eagle feathers!

03-24-2010, 10:09 AM	#51 (permalink)
Liquid_G A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 1,439 Drives: 09 370z Supercharged Rep Power: 44	typical bimmer douchebags..

03-24-2010, 03:11 PM	#57 (permalink)
dudafunk Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 421 Drives: '09 370z Base Red AT Rep Power: 16	Come and talk when its a 5 or 7 series BMW. A 3 series BMW is like Carnegie Mellon University first building a reputation from its Master's in Electrical and Computer Engineering course, which is hard to get into, and then giving bulk admits in their newer Master's in the INI program which is a spin off, a marketing stunt. A 3 series is also marketing and reaching out to the average masses after building a brand name from something upscale like the 7 series. Its all marketing. I never bother looking beyond when people compare the cheapest of something great overall (the general BMW brand) vs. the greatest of something cheap overall (the general Nissan brand).

03-24-2010, 03:37 PM	#58 (permalink)
elmz Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 674 Drives: 2014 Porsche Boxster Rep Power: 17	Forum Waaaar! Yeaaaah!!! JK. I like both cars, but the OP was obviously bias, he did not go in with the intent of reviewing the Z with an open mind. He obviously loves BMW's and whatever 3 series he has. To each his own.

03-24-2010, 03:44 PM	#59 (permalink)
Viera Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 897 Drives: '09 M.Blue 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 264	BIMMER heads. Whatya expect?

03-24-2010, 03:54 PM	#60 (permalink)
djward Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: LA Posts: 48 Drives: 10 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 15	I've owned a 2007 335 and 2008 M3. All great cars. The rush of the 335 off the line. The rush of the M3 climbing to redline. I've owned many Nissans in the past and loved them all. Do I have a preference? No. Just depends on what I feel like having at that time. The M3 was a pain to drive in this LA traffic along with horrible gas mileage. I did get another manual but the Nismo doesn't tire me in traffic. Can't hate on either brand. Both have spent many years creating the cars we love to drive. Some people need to justify their purchases so they target other popular brands. Just need to brush them off and know that the car you have makes you happy.