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OKC370Z 03-16-2010 08:58 PM

Squeeks and Rust?
 
I've owned my Z for about six months now and I drove it in the rain for less than 100 miles. The Z is always garaged and has 4300 miles on it and it has a good amount of surface rust on the exhaust where it attaches to the mid pipe, looks like crap from behind. Anyone else experiencing this?

Also, my drivers seat side bolsters squeek when when I rock back and fourth, driving me nuts. I'm just wondering if I can get the dealer to replace them.

Other than that the car is the shizzle. Replaced my 2001 Mustang Bullitt which had a forged motor and SC, putting out around 500 hp. Don't miss it a bit. ;)

Red370 03-16-2010 09:08 PM

I notice my suspension is a bit squeaky when I get in and out of the car, no problem with rust though, well I guess it doesnt rain much out here in the desert...

Pushing_Tin 03-17-2010 01:49 AM

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...oblem-not.html

fullmonty 03-17-2010 03:48 AM

I wouldn't worry about the rust. Exposed metal+Water= rust. I assume when you say rust you arre just talking about on the surface, and not rotted all the way through.

RandyJamesA 03-17-2010 08:58 AM

Rust-through can obviously start out as surface rust. Odds that its a problem are low, but keep in mind that Toyota is recalling trucks with rusted through frames, so it can happen. This is something to watch over time.

I can see the rust on the exhaust from behind as I approach my garage driving the daily commuter. My driveway slopes away from the garage a bit, so I get a good low look at the Z's backside every day.

ZSPEED 03-17-2010 09:13 AM

Use a metal brush to clean the rust off then spray with rustoleum!

OKC370Z 03-18-2010 06:56 AM

It's just surface rust and the point is that I own a 2003 Murano that is parked outside and has been for years and there is absolutely no rust on the exhaust until you get to the headers. I thought the exhaust from the headers back on the Z were Stainless, are they not?

Like I said it's surface rust but it's pretty thick and it looks like crap because you can clearly see it from behind. I'm dissapointed really, a $40K care and the exposed portion of the exhaust rusts like it does.

370Zsteve 03-18-2010 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by OKC370Z (Post 449807)
I've owned my Z for about six months now and I drove it in the rain for less than 100 miles. The Z is always garaged and has 4300 miles on it and it has a good amount of surface rust on the exhaust where it attaches to the mid pipe, looks like crap from behind. Anyone else experiencing this?

Also, my drivers seat side bolsters squeek when when I rock back and fourth, driving me nuts. I'm just wondering if I can get the dealer to replace them.

Other than that the car is the shizzle. Replaced my 2001 Mustang Bullitt which had a forged motor and SC, putting out around 500 hp. Don't miss it a bit. ;)

You're gonna have to buy a stainless steel aftermarket exhaust. Don't look now, but OEM exhausts rust. All of them. Oxygen is a bitch.

Your bolsters squeak? The fabric? confused...

OKC370Z 03-18-2010 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 449845)
I notice my suspension is a bit squeaky when I get in and out of the car, no problem with rust though, well I guess it doesnt rain much out here in the desert...

MY suspesion is fine the squeak is coming from the side bolster of the drivers seat and it is quite annoying, I will be pushing to have the seave replaced. A $40K should not have seats that squeak in you ear as you move in the seat.

370Zsteve 03-18-2010 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ZSPEED (Post 450479)
Use a metal brush to clean the rust off then spray with rustoleum!

Then watch the rustoleum burn off.

You'd have to paint with a high-temp paint. Though I believe Rustoleum has one. You can even find "crinkle" high-temp paint if that's the look you want.

kyrick 03-18-2010 08:14 AM

I had the same squeak in the left side of mine for first 400 miles. I was ready to take it back for a fix. I found, that when my seat was back as far as possible and the back reclined a bit, the bottom of seat back was rubbing the plastic trim behind seat when I sat in the seat. I moved seat forward a bit and problem fixed. While in your seat reach behind and and see if the leather is rubbing against the plastic.

40th370z 03-18-2010 04:00 PM

Not sure how many are aware of the surface rust that can be pick up from our national highways,aka "graderdust".

A few years back my Titan started to show rust spots on the paint surface,needless to say I was upset an confronted the Nissan Dealership.

To my surprise they said it wasn't Nissans paint job , it was a result of "graderdust"-when the roads are plowed during winter conditions the grader blade leaves small filings (ever notice sparks coming off blades ?)of metal that are left on the roads.

When we drive over or past other vehicles the dust is thrown up on the sides and undercarriages of our cars/trucks.Those small filings if not removed right away can imbed into the wax/clear coats an begin to rust on the surface of paint an chrome.

My dealer told me to get my vehicle detailed with a process know as a acid wash , then rewaxed .

Side note: Mid Apr my 40th AnnE arrives , cant wait to drive it ,an as to a lil purple in the paint who the hell cares OMG its a 370Z.it could be passion pink an it would still be cool...OMG its a 370Z!!!!

kenchan 03-18-2010 04:09 PM

first thing i did was cleaned the exhaust flange and painted it with matte black duplicolor engine enamel. looks perfect from the rear. :p

earwicker7 03-18-2010 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OKC370Z (Post 452323)
MY suspesion is fine the squeak is coming from the side bolster of the drivers seat and it is quite annoying, I will be pushing to have the seave replaced. A $40K should not have seats that squeak in you ear as you move in the seat.

I really love my car, but there is one thing about it that I don't like... this is the squeakiest, rattliest car I've ever owned, and I've owned a Ford Escort. Seriously, Nissan, what is up with that?

IDZRVIT 03-18-2010 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 40th370z (Post 453123)
Not sure how many are aware of the surface rust that can be pick up from our national highways,aka "graderdust".

A few years back my Titan started to show rust spots on the paint surface,needless to say I was upset an confronted the Nissan Dealership.

To my surprise they said it wasn't Nissans paint job , it was a result of "graderdust"-when the roads are plowed during winter conditions the grader blade leaves small filings (ever notice sparks coming off blades ?)of metal that are left on the roads.

When we drive over or past other vehicles the dust is thrown up on the sides and undercarriages of our cars/trucks.Those small filings if not removed right away can imbed into the wax/clear coats an begin to rust on the surface of paint an chrome.

My dealer told me to get my vehicle detailed with a process know as a acid wash , then rewaxed .

Side note: Mid Apr my 40th AnnE arrives , cant wait to drive it ,an as to a lil purple in the paint who the hell cares OMG its a 370Z.it could be passion pink an it would still be cool...OMG its a 370Z!!!!

Graderdust, eh? I hope you're dealer is joking about this. If not I'd be looking for another dealer. I too live in the great white north and have never heard this in my near 40 years of driving in the winter. And I'd like some more info on this acid wash your dealer speaks of. Is a mild one with vinegar in the soapy water or a tad stronger using sulphuric acid?:shakes head:

spearfish25 03-18-2010 07:53 PM

Buyer be ware that even many aftermarket exhausts claim they are "stainless steel" but are made from varying grades of SS that will still surface rust.

For example, the Stillen CBE is all 'stainless' but the muffler and tips are 306 SS which won't surface rust while all the piping is 409 and will most definitely surface rust. Caveat is that Stillen has a lifetime warranty on perforation, so it's not worth worrying about. And with their exhaust, you can only see the 306 parts, so you'll never see rust unless you wiggle under the car.

Dwight Frye 03-18-2010 08:37 PM

I am about ready to take my '09 in for service as it definitely has a squeak in the rear suspension. I hear a metallic creak sometimes when getting in or out of the car. Others have mentioned this, it's not the seat creaking but sounds like it's coming from around the rear wheel opening so maybe a shock or spring ?

370Zsteve 03-18-2010 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by earwicker7 (Post 453226)
I really love my car, but there is one thing about it that I don't like... this is the squeakiest, rattliest car I've ever owned, and I've owned a Ford Escort. Seriously, Nissan, what is up with that?

Weird. My Z is the most rattle-free, squeakless car I've ever owned. No BS. I can only say "well-done Nissan!". Sorry to hear it, man. :ugh2:

Pushing_Tin 03-18-2010 08:48 PM

lol @ graderdust!

40th370z 03-19-2010 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 453242)
Graderdust, eh? I hope you're dealer is joking about this. If not I'd be looking for another dealer. I too live in the great white north and have never heard this in my near 40 years of driving in the winter. And I'd like some more info on this acid wash your dealer speaks of. Is a mild one with vinegar in the soapy water or a tad stronger using sulphuric acid?:shakes head:

Not sure if you have ever had your vehicle detail by a professional shop,the acid wash is how they remove the coat of wax on your car.... unless you know of another process to remove wax?Perhaps you 'scrape it off with your thumbnail"?

While I do not know the composition of the wax removing compound I would assume its not Sulfuric Acid (btw the correct spelling )which would be far too corrosive.

My Titan is white, an shows rust very plainly (small pin prick sized specks of rust)that results after 4 months of winter driving ,the 'grader dust' is not in the paint or clear coat but embedded in the wax,every spring I take my truck in an have the wax removed and rebuffed an waxed professionally,the paint which looks new an NO rust at all after 5 years of Canadian winters.

And I see your 40 years an raise yours too 42 years of driving,and I had never heard of it either until it was pointed out to me by a very good Dealership in southern British Columbia and a detail shop that explained how these small specs of rust can spread from a small metal filings off a grader blade to all out body rust from ignorance of a piece of knowledge someone was kind enough to inform me about before it resulted in major body rust,how else can you explain chrome rusting with out a catalyst?

There is an old adage about Old dogs an new tricks, keep an open mind , and maybe go outside an look very carefully at your paint specially the driver side where mud an snow and the other crap that splashes up from other cars passing you on the highways you may be surprised, or need a new pair of bifocals.

If you would like the shop that details my truck an bike,I'll be more then happy to give you their name,or perhaps you can spend $300 an get your vehicle detail an ask your detailing shop a little more about this subject.

Google is an amazing tool try it sometime before you lol @ something ,ignorance is no excuse to quote a smRt man.

http://www.clublexus.com/forums/rx-s...rake-dust.html

http://www.plowsite.com/showthread.php?p=501151

Pushing_Tin 03-19-2010 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 40th370z (Post 453967)
Not sure if you have ever had your vehicle detail by a professional shop,the acid wash is how they remove the coat of wax on your car.... unless you know of another process to remove wax?Perhaps you 'scrape it off with your thumbnail"?

While I do not know the composition of the wax removing compound I would assume its not Sulfuric Acid (btw the correct spelling )which would be far too corrosive.

My Titan is white, an shows rust very plainly (small pin prick sized specks of rust)that results after 4 months of winter driving ,the 'grader dust' is not in the paint or clear coat but embedded in the wax,every spring I take my truck in an have the wax removed and rebuffed an waxed professionally,the paint which looks new an NO rust at all after 5 years of Canadian winters.

And I see your 40 years an raise yours too 42 years of driving,and I had never heard of it either until it was pointed out to me by a very good Dealership in southern British Columbia and a detail shop that explained how these small specs of rust can spread from a small metal filings off a grader blade to all out body rust from ignorance of a piece of knowledge someone was kind enough to inform me about before it resulted in major body rust,how else can you explain chrome rusting with out a catalyst?

There is an old adage about Old dogs an new tricks, keep an open mind , and maybe go outside an look very carefully at your paint specially the driver side where mud an snow and the other crap that splashes up from other cars passing you on the highways you may be surprised, or need a new pair of bifocals.

If you would like the shop that details my truck an bike,I'll be more then happy to give you their name,or perhaps you can spend $300 an get your vehicle detail an ask your detailing shop a little more about this subject.

Google is an amazing tool try it sometime before you lol @ something ,ignorance is no excuse to quote a smRt man.

Tiny Rust Spots...Brake Dust?? - Club Lexus Forums

http://www.plowsite.com/showthread.php?p=501151

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLLALOLASDFOADSFOADSFOASDF

What because some douchebag posted on Club Lexus and the plowsite it's not a complete fabrication? Give me a break, that tiny piece of steel that makes a brief spark does not stay floating around in the air for minutes or hours until we drive along hitting them. I suppose if you could get your car within half inch of the plow there might be something to that BS story. :gtfo2:

By the way I posted in the CL thead too, been a member there since 2006.

Pushing_Tin 03-19-2010 01:13 AM

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...g_tin/DUST.jpg

40th370z 03-19-2010 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT (Post 453242)
Graderdust, eh? I hope you're dealer is joking about this. If not I'd be looking for another dealer. I too live in the great white north and have never heard this in my near 40 years of driving in the winter. And I'd like some more info on this acid wash your dealer speaks of. Is a mild one with vinegar in the soapy water or a tad stronger using sulphuric acid?:shakes head:

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Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin (Post 454058)

I didn't know a 12 year could get a drivers license,so in 2006 you were what 8 years old?

40th370z 03-19-2010 01:26 AM

The small filings of metal wouldn't float in the air ... a little thing called gravity would pull it to the earth to mix with slush/snow/water,perhaps you should have spent a little more time in physics class an less time in photoshop.<trolled>

Pushing_Tin 03-19-2010 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 40th370z (Post 454077)
The small filings of metal wouldn't float in the air ... a little thing called gravity would pull it to the earth to mix with slush/snow/water,perhaps you should have spent a little more time in physics class an less time in photoshop.<trolled>


LMAO @ the noob!!! Okay, I want to make sure I get this right.........So these microscopic bits of steel mix with the water and snow, stay there on the road, in place, as hundreds to hundreds of thousands of other cars precede me; then the little microscopic bits get sprayed on my car and I get little rust spots? :rofl2:


I think you should spend less time in fantasy writing and more time in non-fiction. Thanks for playing though. :tiphat:

Pushing_Tin 03-19-2010 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 40th370z (Post 454065)
I didn't know a 12 year could get a drivers license,so in 2006 you were what 8 years old?

Listen noob, why don't you get back to jerking off in your mama's basement?

Pushing_Tin 03-19-2010 01:33 AM

40th370z (how original btw) we've effed this thead enough, if you've got anything else to say to me take it to PM.

40th370z 03-19-2010 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin (Post 454092)
LMAO @ the noob!!! Okay, I want to make sure I get this right.........So these microscopic bits of steel mix with the water and snow, stay there on the road, in place, as hundreds to hundreds of thousands of other cars precede me; then the little microscopic bits get sprayed on my car and I get little rust spots? :rofl2:


I think you should spend less time in fantasy writing and more time in non-fiction. Thanks for playing though. :tiphat:

Who said microscopic bits of steel?An sorry but I would doubt hundreds of thousands of cars would proceed you and a snow plow,and as to knuckle babys , maybe your daddy should have spilled you on the ground "noob" lol ,would you like to troll some more ,Its hard to havea battle of wits with a halfwit.

Pushing_Tin 03-19-2010 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 40th370z (Post 454106)
Who said microscopic bits of steel?An sorry but I would doubt hundreds of thousands of cars would proceed you and a snow plow,and as to knuckle babys , maybe your daddy should have spilled you on the ground "noob" lol ,would you like to troll some more ,Its hard to havea battle of wits with a halfwit.

PM sent. :tup:


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