Fire fighting GTR?

FuszNissan · 03-10-2010, 04:58 PM

Interesting

Vegasboricua · 03-10-2010, 05:02 PM

fullmonty · 03-10-2010, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegasboricua

How? THis is so full on win. If it was some dude with to much money then it would be a facepalm. It looks like it would work great for its intended purpose. Would I want to hop on in and go fight a structure fire with it? No, but for a wreck on a racetrack this thing would be great to control the fire before a larger apperatus gets on scene.

Vegasboricua · 03-10-2010, 07:48 PM

Not my kind of thing if you ask me. I admit its unique. I personally think its just a waste tho. Thats just me.

CrownR426 · 03-10-2010, 07:51 PM

That's badass!

PapoZalsa · 03-10-2010, 08:42 PM

Waste of money and time!

Vegasboricua · 03-10-2010, 08:44 PM

DooDooBrown · 03-10-2010, 09:47 PM

Alright, HATE to burst everyone's bubble, but the car is somewhat worthless.....

It only carries 13 gallons of water, and a medium extinguisher..... Not quite what you want for a car fire.... Not to mention the capacity of the pump can't be more than 300 gpm... I highly doubt that the track has water main piping through out the course, meaning that there is no way to establish a water supply from a fire hydrant to the pump on the car. Even if there was, I see no place for hose lines, only the hose reel. Couple this with the fact that there is no place to store firefighting gear, and the car is not worth the money.... They would have been MUCH better off purchasing a fire engine for that price.... Sure, it may be slower, but with the little amount of water the GT-R carries, it would be worth it....

With that being said, they would have been much better off equipping the GT-R with extracation equipment (think Jaws, Spreaders, Rams, etc....). I am assuming that entrapment would be pretty common on this course, as the speeds are greater than your average road, and generally, you are much more likely to be entraped in a car than to be in a car that is on fire. Additionally, vehicle extracation can take upwards of 30+ minutes, so, why not get the faster unit cutting quicker until the slower, heavier hitting appartius arrive?
Just my two cents, but what do I know, I am just a dumb fireman!

fullmonty · 03-11-2010, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DooDooBrown

It only carries 13 gallons of water, and a medium extinguisher..... Not quite what you want for a car fire.... Not to mention the capacity of the pump can't be more than 300 gpm... I highly doubt that the track has water main piping through out the course, meaning that there is no way to establish a water supply from a fire hydrant to the pump on the car. Even if there was, I see no place for hose lines, only the hose reel. Couple this with the fact that there is no place to store firefighting gear, and the car is not worth the money.... They would have been MUCH better off purchasing a fire engine for that price.... Sure, it may be slower, but with the little amount of water the GT-R carries, it would be worth it....

With that being said, they would have been much better off equipping the GT-R with extracation equipment (think Jaws, Spreaders, Rams, etc....). I am assuming that entrapment would be pretty common on this course, as the speeds are greater than your average road, and generally, you are much more likely to be entraped in a car than to be in a car that is on fire. Additionally, vehicle extracation can take upwards of 30+ minutes, so, why not get the faster unit cutting quicker until the slower, heavier hitting appartius arrive?
Just my two cents, but what do I know, I am just a dumb fireman!

You're right, really you could accomplish the job with a F350, a small pump with CAFS. So we're talking like 200 Gallons of water and 15 gallons worth of Foam and a compliment of rescue tools. The GTR is quick but can't really be described as a quick attack pumper. Once you get some man power there and working it will buy enough time for a larger rescue truck to get on scene. I don't know much more about the ring aside from it being in Germany but I would guess there has to be some hydrants throughout the course. But if there isn’t any we’re just talking a car fire and an engine can’t be that much further behind bringing more than enough water. The only time you’ll run into a water supply issue is if you have a large pileup and everything is burning. So yes the GTR is a little impractical as a firefighting vehicle, but it’s still a pretty cool little set up. I don’t think I’ll be pressing my chief to run off and talk to the town into buying one.

DooDooBrown · 03-12-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by fullmonty

You're right, really you could accomplish the job with a F350, a small pump with CAFS. So we're talking like 200 Gallons of water and 15 gallons worth of Foam and a compliment of rescue tools. The GTR is quick but can't really be described as a quick attack pumper. Once you get some man power there and working it will buy enough time for a larger rescue truck to get on scene. I don't know much more about the ring aside from it being in Germany but I would guess there has to be some hydrants throughout the course. But if there isn’t any we’re just talking a car fire and an engine can’t be that much further behind bringing more than enough water. The only time you’ll run into a water supply issue is if you have a large pileup and everything is burning. So yes the GTR is a little impractical as a firefighting vehicle, but it’s still a pretty cool little set up. I don’t think I’ll be pressing my chief to run off and talk to the town into buying one.

Agree with everything you said except CAFS. It is over rated!!!

chuckd05 · 03-12-2010, 12:18 PM

its a good idea... especially for highway car accidents... maybe not a gtr but a g35 sedan or something of that nature.. where you can incorporate a large amount of water/foam into a quick agile vehicle..

if the money if there to burn, let people burn it... I like the idea , I just wouldnt use a GTR for it..

i think its pretty cool though

RandyJamesA · 03-12-2010, 12:21 PM

This thing is just an illegitimate toy with an identity crisis and a superhero complex.

DooDooBrown · 03-12-2010, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckd05

its a good idea... especially for highway car accidents... maybe not a gtr but a g35 sedan or something of that nature.. where you can incorporate a large amount of water/foam into a quick agile vehicle..

if the money if there to burn, let people burn it... I like the idea , I just wouldnt use a GTR for it..

i think its pretty cool though

Not really.... By the time you incorperate the water, tools, etc needed to actually respond to an incident, the car is going to weigh several hundred, if not a couple thousand pounds more... It just isn't worth it... Yes, it is cool, but it is pointless from an emergency response standpoint.

Paul_S · 03-12-2010, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyJamesA

This thing is just an illegitimate toy with an identity crisis and a superhero complex.

Yeh, I want one too!

fullmonty · 03-12-2010, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DooDooBrown

Agree with everything you said except CAFS. It is over rated!!!

Out of my station our Engine has CAFS, and has worked great on both car fires and structures, I wouldn't call it overrated. Granted I would not recommend spraying foam on a building that’s fully involved right away because I don't see any effect from it. But for car fires it has worked really great and for room and contents fires its worked pretty good. It doesn't do anything water can't do though.

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DooDooBrown Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ranson, WV Posts: 178 Drives: 09 370 Touring w/spt Rep Power: 16	Alright, HATE to burst everyone's bubble, but the car is somewhat worthless..... It only carries 13 gallons of water, and a medium extinguisher..... Not quite what you want for a car fire.... Not to mention the capacity of the pump can't be more than 300 gpm... I highly doubt that the track has water main piping through out the course, meaning that there is no way to establish a water supply from a fire hydrant to the pump on the car. Even if there was, I see no place for hose lines, only the hose reel. Couple this with the fact that there is no place to store firefighting gear, and the car is not worth the money.... They would have been MUCH better off purchasing a fire engine for that price.... Sure, it may be slower, but with the little amount of water the GT-R carries, it would be worth it.... With that being said, they would have been much better off equipping the GT-R with extracation equipment (think Jaws, Spreaders, Rams, etc....). I am assuming that entrapment would be pretty common on this course, as the speeds are greater than your average road, and generally, you are much more likely to be entraped in a car than to be in a car that is on fire. Additionally, vehicle extracation can take upwards of 30+ minutes, so, why not get the faster unit cutting quicker until the slower, heavier hitting appartius arrive? Just my two cents, but what do I know, I am just a dumb fireman!

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chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	its a good idea... especially for highway car accidents... maybe not a gtr but a g35 sedan or something of that nature.. where you can incorporate a large amount of water/foam into a quick agile vehicle.. if the money if there to burn, let people burn it... I like the idea , I just wouldnt use a GTR for it.. i think its pretty cool though __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

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