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G Fo12ce 03-13-2010 09:40 AM

I think this would be a great opportunity for someone with a budget to test a short ram style against the long tube back to back and settle exactly what the difference is. They could test the TS on the dyno then install the Stillen and measure the difference keeping which ever has more desireable results for them. I'm sure they could sell which ever doesn't work out easily.

Baker-Jackson Nissan how about it? I'm sure many members would appreciate it!:tup: Either way repped you for a nice build with a website.

theDreamer 03-13-2010 09:41 AM

I have done that, I had Takeda short ram and lost HP and gain 1lb of torque, Stillen Gen III gain power (I personally have not been on the dyno but others in Houston have with the Gen III on the same dyno and showed gains).

G Fo12ce 03-13-2010 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 443478)
I have done that, I had Takeda short ram and lost HP and gain 1lb of torque, Stillen Gen III gain power (I personally have not been on the dyno but others in Houston have with the Gen III on the same dyno and showed gains).

I don't doubt the G3 had gains, I've seen RCZ and Semtex write ups. They seem like they are doucmenting the changes on the dyno. I thought it would be intersting to see the short ram vs. the G3 back to back on the dyno with an overlay of the curves. It would be a good resource for the community.

The argument could still be made that one short ram could be designed different than the model they will use from TS, but is should be close.

CrownR426 03-13-2010 11:53 AM

I expected JDM parts on these z's.
Cause smokey was tunning these but I guess not...
Still cannot wait for the results!

Baker 03-13-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by G Fo12ce (Post 443652)
I don't doubt the G3 had gains, I've seen RCZ and Semtex write ups. They seem like they are doucmenting the changes on the dyno. I thought it would be intersting to see the short ram vs. the G3 back to back on the dyno with an overlay of the curves. It would be a good resource for the community.

The argument could still be made that one short ram could be designed different than the model they will use from TS, but is should be close.

Sounds like something we can do. We were planning on sending it back out to be Dyno'ed again this coming week with a few other changes. It won't be stock when tested with the different intakes, but we can have it run with all of our current mods with stock intake, G3 intake, and our TS intake and post it up here for you guys. At least everyone will be able to see specific differences on the same car, same dyno, on the same day.

G Fo12ce 03-13-2010 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Baker-Jackson Nissan (Post 443796)
Sounds like something we can do. We were planning on sending it back out to be Dyno'ed again this coming week with a few other changes. It won't be stock when tested with the different intakes, but we can have it run with all of our current mods with stock intake, G3 intake, and our TS intake and post it up here for you guys. At least everyone will be able to see specific differences on the same car, same dyno, on the same day.

Fair enough, at this point I think the N/A mods you have are mostly what people have on thier "wanted" list anyway. I think most people understand (or should) the intake will probably show a bit lower #'s on a car with other mods already done like yours. Thanks in advance for going through the extra trouble! :tiphat:

Endgame 03-13-2010 10:40 PM

Thanks Baker-Jackson!

phelan 03-14-2010 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 442997)
I assume the TS intakes will be similar to the Amuse intakes that appear to be more a short ram intake with no heat sheilds. At least, that is how the G37s look. That said, I would be very interested to see how they perform as they will be sucking in a bunch of hot air with the hood closed....

amuse hasn't made an intake for the 370z yet...i think.

SoCal 370Z 03-14-2010 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 444556)
amuse hasn't made an intake for the 370z yet...i think.

Not yet: Current Amuse 370Z Products

And most likely, the only way to get an Amuse intake system is to have Amuse take your Z for a special build.

NYBladeZ 03-15-2010 12:47 AM

any plans to change the gear ratios? Some 4.08's would set it off with low end power coming quick, I believe one member broke into the 12's with them on an auto Z.

Endgame 03-15-2010 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by phelan (Post 444556)
amuse hasn't made an intake for the 370z yet...i think.

My bad... I meant HKS!!!

JB-370z 03-15-2010 09:31 AM

HKS has made a intake for the 370 and I own one.

Baker 03-15-2010 03:06 PM

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Great comments happening here and on the Project:Mothra facebook page -- Project Mothra | Facebook

One person reminded us that opinions are like buttholes -- for the record, we've already replaced the butthole on Mothra with a JDM fog light.:rofl2:

Quick question for you guys -- there have been a couple of references to "F.I." made here and on the FB page. Are you referencing "Fast Intentions" or "forced induction"? It's not always clear and we'd like to answer everyone as completely as possible.

By the way -- I mentioned last Thursday that we were having a little fun with a GT-R for Smoky to tune as well. We did a couple of pulls -- both with the Cobb on and with it off to see where we stand on that car. Here's a little teaser photo set, with more in-depth description coming...

theDreamer 03-15-2010 03:09 PM

It can be tough when people just say FI, it all depends on the context of the post.
With you guys though, they might be referring to forced induction since you already mention you are going with another exhaust setup.

phelan 03-15-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Baker-Jackson Nissan (Post 447126)
Great comments happening here and on the Project:Mothra facebook page -- Project Mothra | Facebook

One person reminded us that opinions are like buttholes -- for the record, we've already replaced the butthole on Mothra with a JDM fog light.:rofl2:

Quick question for you guys -- there have been a couple of references to "F.I." made here and on the FB page. Are you referencing "Fast Intentions" or "forced induction"? It's not always clear and we'd like to answer everyone as completely as possible.

By the way -- I mentioned last Thursday that we were having a little fun with a GT-R for Smoky to tune as well. We did a couple of pulls -- both with the Cobb on and with it off to see where we stand on that car. Here's a little teaser photo set, with more in-depth description coming...

lol, sorry guys, that's my fault posting that on your facebook page. I mentioned F.I. LTHs, I mean the Fast Intention LTHs. I think those look outstanding.


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