dead stop from 2nd

spearfish25 · 03-09-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kannibul

And, driving in snow, starting in 1st is still the better choice. Feather the clutch a bit and don't use the gas.

That said, the car has VDC, use it, and it should get some traction...except it might break both loose and then you're spinning.

Me, I just kick it to 4WD and hit hte gas and I'm off, but then again, I don't drive my Z in the winter.

$40,000 car in a ditch, or side-skipping into a curb, or spinning around the wrong way on an interstate ramp...sure sounds good, doesn't it?

$800 POS in a ditch, hitting a curb, or spinning around the wrong way on an interstate ramp - sounds a lot better, doesn't it?

It's like those people around here that drive a corvette in winter...I don't get it.

Here we go again (

, I'm saying all this in good humor). The guy who refuses to drive his Z in the snow is giving advice on how to do it properly!

Kannibul's soap box for preaching on proper selection of winter cars is getting worn out.

Agreeing Kannibul though (not on a right/wrong basis but just necessity basis):
Being a 'real' Z snow driver, I've found that starting in 1st gear is perfectly fine with snow tires. You have to be more delicate with clutch release and throttle, but starting in 2nd is by no means necessary.

If you can make a car spin (both in circles and spin the rear tires for more than 2 seconds) from a dead stop in snow with VDC turned ON, you're amazingly bad at driving and have somehow defeated the granny-driver-inducing VDC.

Kannibul's rebuttle to be inserted below...

VCuomo · 03-09-2010, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by battlewagon

theres no way you will be able to start it from second without burning your clutch more than you would by starting in first, even if it is fractional amount, it'll add up in the end

kenchan · 03-09-2010, 05:44 PM

if my car is rolling, even slightly, i would consider using 2nd gear (no need to blip, just engage the clutch gently) but from a standstill i would just use 1st gear.

if my car is rolling considerbly obviously i would rev match before engaging.

Brendan@Bwalk · 03-09-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

if my car is rolling, even slightly, i would consider using 2nd gear (no need to blip, just engage the clutch gently) but from a standstill i would just use 1st gear.

if my car is rolling considerbly obviously i would rev match before engaging.

QFT. My daily has 325 ft-lbs of torque, but if I'm at a dead stop, I use first. Anything over 2-3 mph, second gear can be used without adding any throttle till the clutch is hooked up.

FWIW, I've never replaced a clutch in anything I've owned, except in the rare case where I've already dropped the tranny so I'll replace whatever else is in there while it's all apart.

Jeffblue · 03-09-2010, 11:16 PM

yea... not everyone can afford to have seasonal cars. I'd hope anyone driving a sports car in the snow at least has the right tires for the season.

steveg78 · 03-10-2010, 12:26 AM

After having a 90 300ZX as a daily driver for 5yrs I made sure to have bad weather car this time around. I sold my 300ZX in 2003 when I bought a brand new Jeep Liberty Renegade. 142k on the odometer and still purring and awesome in the snow/rain. I hope I never get caught driving my new Z in the snow!!!

Edit: Oh by the way, mult-car discount when insuring 2 cars for 1 driver!

soCo · 03-10-2010, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by steveg78

Edit: Oh by the way, mult-car discount when insuring 2 cars for 1 driver!

Still paying more money for the beater.

steveg78 · 03-10-2010, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by soCo

Still paying more money for the beater.

Money well spent!

03-10-2010, 12:26 AM	#21 (permalink)
steveg78 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MD Posts: 569 Drives: 09 370Z PG M6 +Sport Rep Power: 17	After having a 90 300ZX as a daily driver for 5yrs I made sure to have bad weather car this time around. I sold my 300ZX in 2003 when I bought a brand new Jeep Liberty Renegade. 142k on the odometer and still purring and awesome in the snow/rain. I hope I never get caught driving my new Z in the snow!!! Edit: Oh by the way, mult-car discount when insuring 2 cars for 1 driver! Last edited by steveg78; 03-10-2010 at 12:26 AM. Reason: Oh by the way, mult-car discount when insuring 2 cars for 1 driver!

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Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	yea... not everyone can afford to have seasonal cars. I'd hope anyone driving a sports car in the snow at least has the right tires for the season.