synchro rev match question

stlgrym3 · 03-09-2010, 12:19 AM

will this feature make it easier for stick shift noobies to drive 370z. i know automatic is available but i'd rather not buy an auto Z.

vipor · 03-09-2010, 12:20 AM

it makes down shifting easier and smoother. it does not increase the overall ease of shifting at all.

stlgrym3 · 03-09-2010, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by vipor

it makes down shifting easier and smoother. it does not increase the overall ease of shifting at all.

will it make it easier to drive in stop and go traffic?

vipor · 03-09-2010, 12:23 AM

just down shifting. starting out in 1st and shifting to a higher gear will not be easier. it has nothing to do with the clutch, not really

travisjb · 03-09-2010, 12:33 AM

this topic is pretty thoroughly discussed on the board... search for "SRM"

vipor · 03-09-2010, 12:36 AM

too short to search i think lol

cruzmisl · 03-09-2010, 12:50 AM

My G37 was my first standard tranny. I thought SRM would have been awesome (I still think it's totally neat), but as I learned to drive, I realized it's not something I would even use a whole lot as a guy that mainly drives to work or the gym.

The hardest part of learning our 6MT tractor clutch is mastering the engage point and being gentle with it. This means starting from a stop involves a bit of a learning curve to master before you're not unnecessarily burning the clutch anymore. I'm still feathering a bit too much from a stop, but it's getting better.

Once you're actually moving, shifting is pretty much a breeze. It's a lot of fun, but our cars aren't the easiest to learn on. I'm not sure if any one would be happy jumping into these cars as their first manual, or if they're crazy like me and bought one without even test driving it (I couldn't drive the thing). I had brief moments of regret when I killed the thing repeatedly and shaved a year of life off my clutch, but once you get the hang of it you'll see why these kind of cars come with 6MT as an option.

It's just a lot of fun.

travisjb · 03-09-2010, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by vipor

too short to search i think lol

i don't use the forum search... always google

srm site:the370z.com - Google Search

vipor · 03-09-2010, 12:55 AM

ooo sneaky

shadow2k · 03-09-2010, 01:58 AM

Judging from past cars I've owned, I'm guessing the Z is probably not the car you want to tear up trying to learn on. SRM won't help. Most new manual drivers simply put it in neutral and coast to a stop anyway. Getting started from a stop, especially on a hill, is the major obstacle for learning to drive a stick, and the SRM won't help with that.

gumpy · 03-09-2010, 05:31 AM

SRM helps once you get past first gear, but by help i mean just helps smooth out your clutch action. I does nothing to assist you on the starts which is where most people new to manual get owned...

This clutch is a difficult clutch for learners... let's face it any clutch is hard for someone new but i hope this puts it into perspective. I've driven manual for 5 years. The first car that i purchased was the Polo GTI, slightly sportier clutch than the usual car... on this car after 6 months i never stalled ever, i could reverse up a 10 degree incline just using the clutch. With the 370z, i stall about 3 times a week, one of them is due to trying to reverse like in my old car with the clutch alone, i can do it but it's a bastard of a clutch... In saying that my friend has a super with a custom racing clutch and that thing is either engaged or disengaged with no inbetween... quite brutal...

ZSPEED · 03-09-2010, 03:07 PM

I'm driving with out it and will continue until the end of the break in period.

kenchan · 03-09-2010, 05:55 PM

srm allows you to concentrate much less during your upshifts to rev match. for downshifts you still need to slightly assist the blip throttle unless you're braking considerably and downshifting. otherwise you get a slight jolt. i like my shifts seamless up or down.

370Zsteve · 03-09-2010, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruzmisl

My G37 was my first standard tranny. I thought SRM would have been awesome (I still think it's totally neat), but as I learned to drive, I realized it's not something I would even use a whole lot as a guy that mainly drives to work or the gym.

The hardest part of learning our 6MT tractor clutch is mastering the engage point and being gentle with it. This means starting from a stop involves a bit of a learning curve to master before you're not unnecessarily burning the clutch anymore. I'm still feathering a bit too much from a stop, but it's getting better.

Once you're actually moving, shifting is pretty much a breeze. It's a lot of fun, but our cars aren't the easiest to learn on. I'm not sure if any one would be happy jumping into these cars as their first manual, or if they're crazy like me and bought one without even test driving it (I couldn't drive the thing). I had brief moments of regret when I killed the thing repeatedly and shaved a year of life off my clutch, but once you get the hang of it you'll see why these kind of cars come with 6MT as an option.

It's just a lot of fun.

If you had SRM, you'd be loving it just as I do. Once you try it, you wonder why someone else didn't do it sooner.

elmz · 03-09-2010, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

If you had SRM, you'd be loving it just as I do. Once you try it, you wonder why someone else didn't do it sooner.

^Exactly. If this is going to be your first manual car, then you wouldn't understand the benefits of SRM. You can freely downshift at any speed or rev and drop the clutch with no worries, try doing that in a car without SRM =/.

03-09-2010, 12:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
stlgrym3 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: san gabriel, socal Posts: 12 Drives: 4G Acura TL for now Rep Power: 15	synchro rev match question will this feature make it easier for stick shift noobies to drive 370z. i know automatic is available but i'd rather not buy an auto Z.

03-09-2010, 12:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	it makes down shifting easier and smoother. it does not increase the overall ease of shifting at all. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

03-09-2010, 12:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	just down shifting. starting out in 1st and shifting to a higher gear will not be easier. it has nothing to do with the clutch, not really __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

03-09-2010, 12:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 188	this topic is pretty thoroughly discussed on the board... search for "SRM" __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

03-09-2010, 12:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	too short to search i think lol __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

03-09-2010, 12:50 AM	#7 (permalink)
cruzmisl Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Hillsboro, OR Posts: 122 Drives: 08 G37S 6MT Rep Power: 15	My G37 was my first standard tranny. I thought SRM would have been awesome (I still think it's totally neat), but as I learned to drive, I realized it's not something I would even use a whole lot as a guy that mainly drives to work or the gym. The hardest part of learning our 6MT tractor clutch is mastering the engage point and being gentle with it. This means starting from a stop involves a bit of a learning curve to master before you're not unnecessarily burning the clutch anymore. I'm still feathering a bit too much from a stop, but it's getting better. Once you're actually moving, shifting is pretty much a breeze. It's a lot of fun, but our cars aren't the easiest to learn on. I'm not sure if any one would be happy jumping into these cars as their first manual, or if they're crazy like me and bought one without even test driving it (I couldn't drive the thing). I had brief moments of regret when I killed the thing repeatedly and shaved a year of life off my clutch, but once you get the hang of it you'll see why these kind of cars come with 6MT as an option. It's just a lot of fun.

03-09-2010, 12:55 AM	#9 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	ooo sneaky __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

03-09-2010, 01:58 AM	#10 (permalink)
shadow2k Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Overland Park, Kansas Posts: 143 Drives: 09 PG 370z 6MT Rep Power: 16	Judging from past cars I've owned, I'm guessing the Z is probably not the car you want to tear up trying to learn on. SRM won't help. Most new manual drivers simply put it in neutral and coast to a stop anyway. Getting started from a stop, especially on a hill, is the major obstacle for learning to drive a stick, and the SRM won't help with that.

03-09-2010, 05:31 AM	#11 (permalink)
gumpy Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 449 Drives: 09 370z white manual Rep Power: 16	SRM helps once you get past first gear, but by help i mean just helps smooth out your clutch action. I does nothing to assist you on the starts which is where most people new to manual get owned... This clutch is a difficult clutch for learners... let's face it any clutch is hard for someone new but i hope this puts it into perspective. I've driven manual for 5 years. The first car that i purchased was the Polo GTI, slightly sportier clutch than the usual car... on this car after 6 months i never stalled ever, i could reverse up a 10 degree incline just using the clutch. With the 370z, i stall about 3 times a week, one of them is due to trying to reverse like in my old car with the clutch alone, i can do it but it's a bastard of a clutch... In saying that my friend has a super with a custom racing clutch and that thing is either engaged or disengaged with no inbetween... quite brutal...

03-09-2010, 03:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
ZSPEED Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NOVA Posts: 67 Drives: 370 40th Anniversary Rep Power: 16	I'm driving with out it and will continue until the end of the break in period.

03-09-2010, 05:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	srm allows you to concentrate much less during your upshifts to rev match. for downshifts you still need to slightly assist the blip throttle unless you're braking considerably and downshifting. otherwise you get a slight jolt. i like my shifts seamless up or down.

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