Hybrid 370z

RandyJamesA · 03-01-2010, 08:25 AM

I got so tired of the cost of gas that I converted my big 4x6 truck to run on kittens; yeah, kittens, would you believe it? You have to actually kill and dry them out first, so my basement is full of them hanging from the rafters, but you'd be surprised how much energy is packaged in those little things. I usually pitchfork a load into the truck bed first thing in the morning to last all day. A good load stuffed into the boiler will last nearly an hour at a time, but it's totally worth it. Sure, they smoke like the dickens, and the smell of a burning tabby is just aweful, but nobody tailgates me anymore! The best part is that you get to spend your day driving around looking to run down more kittens; it's like the best video game, but for real! Awesome.
PS, global warming is BS; get real.

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-01-2010, 09:10 AM

You can put HYBRIDS, in all the HUM DRUM passenger cars you want. But leave the sports cars alone. Besides. I hate the fact that they put all this pollution crap on citizens. Passenger cars make up 1/1000 of the problem. The vehicles that are the super-pollutants are jet planes and commercial trucks (18wheelers etc). You ever see how much black sut flys out of trucks?
So many cars and sports cars are so close to zero emisssions its ridiculous. For some reason though. When it comes to government making mandates on companies for trucks to go green and make an alternative to the jet engine. There's no news there huh. Capitalism at its best. Let's talk green with a consumer based initiative, not a corporate one.
Our govt doesn't care about pollution. It only cares about the potential revenue green conversions would generate if the consumer base was forced to convert there homes and vehicles to green vehicles. The only green they care about are the dollars attached to the problem.
We are all gonna die in some way, some how. If we don't get killed as civilians, we die as soldiers. If natural disasters don't kill us. A terrorist attack or some awful tragedy will. So F&$k it. Give me a sports car and let's ride till we die.

Pharmacist · 03-01-2010, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyJamesA

I got so tired of the cost of gas that I converted my big 4x6 truck to run on kittens; yeah, kittens, would you believe it? You have to actually kill and dry them out first, so my basement is full of them hanging from the rafters, but you'd be surprised how much energy is packaged in those little things. I usually pitchfork a load into the truck bed first thing in the morning to last all day. A good load stuffed into the boiler will last nearly an hour at a time, but it's totally worth it. Sure, they smoke like the dickens, and the smell of a burning tabby is just aweful, but nobody tailgates me anymore! The best part is that you get to spend your day driving around looking to run down more kittens; it's like the best video game, but for real! Awesome.
PS, global warming is BS; get real.

how do you know global warming is bs? I assume you head your own laboratory and did your own studies and computer analysis

on the other hand, the above poster is correct. too much focus is on passenger cars. meanwhile, commercial trucks, trains, ships, and airplanes contribute a big chunk of pollution and greenhouse gases but no one is doing anything to make them any greener or reduce their carbon footprint. and sports cars and supercars form such a small niche that their carbon footprint is negligible. it has become all about PR stunt and propaganda for car companies to brag about how much "green" technology they can show off in the autoshows.

nextbesthing · 03-01-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

how do you know global warming is bs? I assume you head your own laboratory and did your own studies and computer analysis

on the other hand, the above poster is correct. too much focus is on passenger cars. meanwhile, commercial trucks, trains, ships, and airplanes contribute a big chunk of pollution and greenhouse gases but no one is doing anything to make them any greener or reduce their carbon footprint. and sports cars and supercars form such a small niche that their carbon footprint is negligible. it has become all about PR stunt and propaganda for car companies to brag about how much "green" technology they can show off in the autoshows.

How do you know global warming isn't BS?

nuTinmuch · 03-01-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by nextbesthing

How do you know global warming isn't BS?

oh i don't know

science

Horseface · 03-01-2010, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuTinmuch

oh i don't know

science

YouTube - Thomas Dolby - She Blinded Me With Science

Jeffblue · 03-01-2010, 11:57 AM

We as passenger car drivers don't have a lobby in congress to represent us. None of us are shelling out money to representatives to draw their emphasis on going green elsewhere like planes, trucks, factories etc.

The only way that Cars are going to become more environmentally friendly is if it warranted by better performance. Better performance that is developed by car manufacturers for High end sports cars and race cars. Thats where all the best technology for cars from. Disc brakes were originally developed for racing because they didn't fade the way drum brakes did. Look now. they are practically standard. even run of the mill cars have disc brakes on the front two wheels which do most of the stopping. There is a trickle down effect of all car technology and the next best thing always comes from the top, not the bottom. You're not going to see sports cars being improved by taking aspects of shitty slow hybrids that look like rodents. You're going to see run of the mill cars being improved by advances in technology developed by high end car manufacturers.

In short. Until environmentally cars perform BETTER in a performance aspect, their environmental benefits won't become widespread enough to actually improve the environment. when the technology behind cars like the tesla roadster becomes cheap enough and practical enough to trickle down to a car like a camry.... thats when we'll see cars become efficient.

Sorry for the rant

This car is fully electric

YouTube - American Muscle VS Electric Drag Race White Zombie

nuTinmuch · 03-01-2010, 11:58 AM

kannibul · 03-01-2010, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pharmacist

how do you know global warming is bs? I assume you head your own laboratory and did your own studies and computer analysis

on the other hand, the above poster is correct. too much focus is on passenger cars. meanwhile, commercial trucks, trains, ships, and airplanes contribute a big chunk of pollution and greenhouse gases but no one is doing anything to make them any greener or reduce their carbon footprint. and sports cars and supercars form such a small niche that their carbon footprint is negligible. it has become all about PR stunt and propaganda for car companies to brag about how much "green" technology they can show off in the autoshows.

Airplanes can still use leaded gas. :insert epic fail:

nextbesthing · 03-01-2010, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuTinmuch

oh i don't know

science

Al Gore! is that you?

Vegitto-kun · 03-01-2010, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nuTinmuch

oh i don't know

science

Yes and some months ago news came out about SCIENCE lying about global warming

nextbesthing · 03-01-2010, 02:33 PM

Ahhhh science...TEN MYTHS of Global Warming - Global Warming Hysteria

mayesj101 · 03-01-2010, 03:17 PM

Wait-any person who says that "science has proven" something is 99% of the time lying, especially over something as politically touchy as climate change.

Doesn't anyone remember back in the '70s? Back then, it was global cooling (we were gonna go into a new ice age if we didn't stop using fossil fuels). Then in the 1980s and 1990s,it jumped to "global warming" as its proponents suddenly realized that the climate was not validating their theories. Now, as those same proponents once again realize that their theories are being invalidated by time, the term jumps to "climate change". That way, if it gets warmer, they're right! If it gets cooler, they're still right! ...fail.

gumpy · 03-01-2010, 03:49 PM

Guys i've worked in the climate change team at a professional services firm before. The amount of money they make out of it has got me questioning the validity. They make no attempt to actually reduce the CO2 outputs but try and make money from it.

Anyway, IF climate change is human induced the solution is quite simple to be honest. if the 4-5 major countries, all move to nuclear power generation, and i'm talking 100% nuclear, problem solved. Car emissions make up such a small part of the overall emissions it's not funny. But it's easier for the politians to make us consumers feel guilty.

Anyway, i find it far more likely that the climate change is due to the sun, i mean this massive ball of fire has been keeping the solar system going for a very long time... like freakin long time... it's our sole source of energy... and it doesn't burn evenly... it bursts, gurgles and has eruptions... I think we're just going through a bad patch with it... or maybe it's the good patch...? who knows.

Jeffblue · 03-01-2010, 04:17 PM

I think this thread has gotten a TAD political.

I think far too much emphasis is being placed on passenger cars in the debate over emissions etc, and the byproduct is all these mutant cars on the road. speaking of nuclear power. its almost like there was a nuclear meltdown and half the new cars coming out are mutants. i mean, we have Hybrid suvs, which basically get the same fuel efficiency as a large sedan. by a large sedan, save the battery waste. If you have a hybrid SUV you probably aren't concerned with hauling anything. then we have all these little turdmobiles that try so hard to look futuristic that they just look ugly.

back to the topic.... i think that the day that a hybrid is better performing than its internal combustion counterpart is when hybrids are ready to enter the sports car market.

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03-01-2010, 08:25 AM	#16 (permalink)
RandyJamesA Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Nowhere, USA Posts: 39 Drives: Z Rep Power: 15	I got so tired of the cost of gas that I converted my big 4x6 truck to run on kittens; yeah, kittens, would you believe it? You have to actually kill and dry them out first, so my basement is full of them hanging from the rafters, but you'd be surprised how much energy is packaged in those little things. I usually pitchfork a load into the truck bed first thing in the morning to last all day. A good load stuffed into the boiler will last nearly an hour at a time, but it's totally worth it. Sure, they smoke like the dickens, and the smell of a burning tabby is just aweful, but nobody tailgates me anymore! The best part is that you get to spend your day driving around looking to run down more kittens; it's like the best video game, but for real! Awesome. PS, global warming is BS; get real.

03-01-2010, 09:10 AM	#17 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	You can put HYBRIDS, in all the HUM DRUM passenger cars you want. But leave the sports cars alone. Besides. I hate the fact that they put all this pollution crap on citizens. Passenger cars make up 1/1000 of the problem. The vehicles that are the super-pollutants are jet planes and commercial trucks (18wheelers etc). You ever see how much black sut flys out of trucks? So many cars and sports cars are so close to zero emisssions its ridiculous. For some reason though. When it comes to government making mandates on companies for trucks to go green and make an alternative to the jet engine. There's no news there huh. Capitalism at its best. Let's talk green with a consumer based initiative, not a corporate one. Our govt doesn't care about pollution. It only cares about the potential revenue green conversions would generate if the consumer base was forced to convert there homes and vehicles to green vehicles. The only green they care about are the dollars attached to the problem. We are all gonna die in some way, some how. If we don't get killed as civilians, we die as soldiers. If natural disasters don't kill us. A terrorist attack or some awful tragedy will. So F&$k it. Give me a sports car and let's ride till we die.

03-01-2010, 11:57 AM	#22 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 38	We as passenger car drivers don't have a lobby in congress to represent us. None of us are shelling out money to representatives to draw their emphasis on going green elsewhere like planes, trucks, factories etc. The only way that Cars are going to become more environmentally friendly is if it warranted by better performance. Better performance that is developed by car manufacturers for High end sports cars and race cars. Thats where all the best technology for cars from. Disc brakes were originally developed for racing because they didn't fade the way drum brakes did. Look now. they are practically standard. even run of the mill cars have disc brakes on the front two wheels which do most of the stopping. There is a trickle down effect of all car technology and the next best thing always comes from the top, not the bottom. You're not going to see sports cars being improved by taking aspects of shitty slow hybrids that look like rodents. You're going to see run of the mill cars being improved by advances in technology developed by high end car manufacturers. In short. Until environmentally cars perform BETTER in a performance aspect, their environmental benefits won't become widespread enough to actually improve the environment. when the technology behind cars like the tesla roadster becomes cheap enough and practical enough to trickle down to a car like a camry.... thats when we'll see cars become efficient. Sorry for the rant This car is fully electric YouTube - American Muscle VS Electric Drag Race White Zombie

03-01-2010, 02:33 PM	#27 (permalink)
nextbesthing Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: central jersey Posts: 187 Drives: 2009 PW 370Z Rep Power: 16	Ahhhh science...TEN MYTHS of Global Warming - Global Warming Hysteria

03-01-2010, 03:17 PM	#28 (permalink)
mayesj101 Base Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 25 Drives: 88 Nissan 300ZX-T M5 Rep Power: 15	Wait-any person who says that "science has proven" something is 99% of the time lying, especially over something as politically touchy as climate change. Doesn't anyone remember back in the '70s? Back then, it was global cooling (we were gonna go into a new ice age if we didn't stop using fossil fuels). Then in the 1980s and 1990s,it jumped to "global warming" as its proponents suddenly realized that the climate was not validating their theories. Now, as those same proponents once again realize that their theories are being invalidated by time, the term jumps to "climate change". That way, if it gets warmer, they're right! If it gets cooler, they're still right! ...fail.

03-01-2010, 03:49 PM	#29 (permalink)
gumpy Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Sydney Posts: 449 Drives: 09 370z white manual Rep Power: 16	Guys i've worked in the climate change team at a professional services firm before. The amount of money they make out of it has got me questioning the validity. They make no attempt to actually reduce the CO2 outputs but try and make money from it. Anyway, IF climate change is human induced the solution is quite simple to be honest. if the 4-5 major countries, all move to nuclear power generation, and i'm talking 100% nuclear, problem solved. Car emissions make up such a small part of the overall emissions it's not funny. But it's easier for the politians to make us consumers feel guilty. Anyway, i find it far more likely that the climate change is due to the sun, i mean this massive ball of fire has been keeping the solar system going for a very long time... like freakin long time... it's our sole source of energy... and it doesn't burn evenly... it bursts, gurgles and has eruptions... I think we're just going through a bad patch with it... or maybe it's the good patch...? who knows.

03-01-2010, 04:17 PM	#30 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 38	I think this thread has gotten a TAD political. I think far too much emphasis is being placed on passenger cars in the debate over emissions etc, and the byproduct is all these mutant cars on the road. speaking of nuclear power. its almost like there was a nuclear meltdown and half the new cars coming out are mutants. i mean, we have Hybrid suvs, which basically get the same fuel efficiency as a large sedan. by a large sedan, save the battery waste. If you have a hybrid SUV you probably aren't concerned with hauling anything. then we have all these little turdmobiles that try so hard to look futuristic that they just look ugly. back to the topic.... i think that the day that a hybrid is better performing than its internal combustion counterpart is when hybrids are ready to enter the sports car market.