What happened to the tire pressure gauge and speedo in the middle gauge cluster?

rbratton · 01-22-2009, 02:34 PM

It seems as if they cut one feature out with 370Z that was really usefull on the 350Z. Why did they remove the universal gauge in the center gauge cluster that could show, tire pressure, speed, lap times, etc? I found the speed and tire pressure extremely useful at the track. I liked capability of seeing what my tire pressure was after I got the tires heated up.

Does anyone know of a way to add this feature? Oil temperature and a clock is great, but I really don't need to know what voltage my altenator is producing.

Robert_Nash · 01-22-2009, 03:03 PM

Sorry...I can't tell you (don't know) the reasoning behind the change.

The 370 doesn't have TPMS...funny, though, I don't remember being able to monitor TP from the center gauge cluster and I had TPMS on both my '07 Grand Touring Coupe and on my '08 Grand Touring Roadster...maybe that was something offered on the track and/or enthusiast models before they discontinued them???

I miss the digital speed readout but am slowloy getting used to using the analog speedomoter again.

I would say that trying to add those features yourself would be a lot of work...I also would say, as an advid autocrosser, that I wouldn't trust the TPMS readout to know what my pressure was during an event; I'd always use a very good hand-held unit for that.

The Weapon · 01-22-2009, 03:08 PM

My guess on the TPMS was too many problems for people trying to swap rims. I remember that being the problem on my 03. As for the speedometer, I'll miss it too. I think the clock is worthless.

Robert_Nash · 01-22-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Weapon

My guess on the TPMS was too many problems for people trying to swap rims. I remember that being the problem on my 03. As for the speedometer, I'll miss it too. I think the clock is worthless.

I don't mind the clock being there but it is pretty un-needed - I think they could have found a better use for that gauge area.

Wouldn't it great if the area was used as the warning/display area for a really great traffic radar/laser detection system!!!

Or better yet...a readout for traffic radar/laser countermeasure system.

RedlineHR · 01-22-2009, 03:51 PM

US Law requires that all new cars sold have a TPMS system.

The 370 does have TPMS. Nissan stopped providing displays for PSI reading in each tire in the 2007 model year.

All we get now is an indicator light on the dash if the pressure in any tire drips significantly lower than the other tires.

I am assuning this is a liability thing. In the cars that said what the tire pressure is in each tire, people would get confused about which tire was low and air up the wrong one (idiots!). Also, people should not rely on TPMS to determine the amount of air in the tires, but they were so Nissan eliminated it.

I really miss having that data, but TPMS is still there.

You can also tell that it has TPMS by the bolt-on, rigid valve stem...

FoxMan · 01-22-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert_Nash

I don't mind the clock being there but it is pretty un-needed - I think they could have found a better use for that gauge area.

Wouldn't it great if the area was used as the warning/display area for a really great traffic radar/laser detection system!!!

Or better yet...a readout for traffic radar/laser countermeasure system.

Great idea! I've been debating about where to have the display installed. I think the 9500CI display module might actually fit. I guess I'll have to wait until I have my hands on both the car and the detector.

Robert_Nash · 01-22-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hiz-n-herz

US Law requires that all new cars sold have a TPMS system.

The 370 does have TPMS. Nissan stopped providing displays for PSI reading in each tire in the 2007 model year.

All we get now is an indicator light on the dash if the pressure in any tire drips significantly lower than the other tires.

I am assuning this is a liability thing. In the cars that said what the tire pressure is in each tire, people would get confused about which tire was low and air up the wrong one (idiots!). Also, people should not rely on TPMS to determine the amount of air in the tires, but they were so Nissan eliminated it.

I really miss having that data, but TPMS is still there.

You can also tell that it has TPMS by the bolt-on, rigid valve stem...

Wow...I can learn something...who would have thought it!!!

Actually, I was thinking that the requirement was "coming" but not actually required yet...my bad. But yes, what you related makes perfect sense.

It also explains why I wasn't familiar with the "readout"...my '04 didn't have TPMS at all and by the time I got my '07 and '08 the readout was already gone!

Thanks for the info.

dad · 01-22-2009, 06:49 PM

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Nismo 370z · 01-22-2009, 08:48 PM

Do u guys think we can take the multi function gauge from a 350 and install it in the 370? If we can then ill definately use the one from my car. Also I heard that the gauge which shows the fuel/temp levels has a screen similar to the multi function gauge of the 350 and shows different functions. 370 owners please chime in.

Robert_Nash · 01-22-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismo 370z

Do u guys think we can take the multi function gauge from a 350 and install it in the 370? If we can then ill definately use the one from my car. Also I heard that the gauge which shows the fuel/temp levels has a screen similar to the multi function gauge of the 350 and shows different functions. 370 owners please chime in.

The multi-function gauge on the left does have a lot of different data on it but I haven't looked specifically for tire pressure.

I doubt the old gauge from the 350 will fit as I don't believe the openings are quite the same size or shape...not to mention the ability to hook it up and actually get good readings/info.

Nismo 370z · 01-22-2009, 09:26 PM

Nevermine lol. I searched. My bad.

Nismo 370z · 01-22-2009, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert_Nash

The multi-function gauge on the left does have a lot of different data on it but I haven't looked specifically for tire pressure.

I doubt the old gauge from the 350 will fit as I don't believe the openings are quite the same size or shape...not to mention the ability to hook it up and actually get good readings/info.

Ok but is there a digital speedo function on the 370? What other features does it show?

Robert_Nash · 01-22-2009, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nismo 370z

Ok but is there a digital speedo function on the 370? What other features does it show?

No...no digital speed on the 370...you have to use the speedometer.

I'm going from memory here...

Top of the gauge shows Gasoline tank level; bottom shows water temp.

The digital readout will show...

continuous MPG (in the form of a bar graph)
Average MPG and DTE
Outside Temp
Travel elapsed time and Avg speed (since last reset)
Brightness of the gauges (when you make a change to the level)
then it has the settings for maint, clock, different settings for alerts, etc.

Nismo 370z · 01-23-2009, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert_Nash

No...no digital speed on the 370...you have to use the speedometer.

I'm going from memory here...

Top of the gauge shows Gasoline tank level; bottom shows water temp.

The digital readout will show...

continuous MPG (in the form of a bar graph)
Average MPG and DTE
Outside Temp
Travel elapsed time and Avg speed (since last reset)
Brightness of the gauges (when you make a change to the level)
then it has the settings for maint, clock, different settings for alerts, etc.

Thanks for the info. I saw this thing in a magazine that shows a picture that shows a pressing a clutch and it says "clutch". Does the digital readout tell u to press the clutch everytime u need to shift?

Crash · 01-23-2009, 04:44 AM

That clock is staying right where it is on my car. However, it will be slightly modified.

Ever heard of a BLINDER X-TREME? I'll be putting my warning light in that gauge right under the digital display.

Nobody but me will know what it is.

01-22-2009, 02:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
rbratton Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Vine Grove, KY Posts: 89 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 16	What happened to the tire pressure gauge and speedo in the middle gauge cluster? It seems as if they cut one feature out with 370Z that was really usefull on the 350Z. Why did they remove the universal gauge in the center gauge cluster that could show, tire pressure, speed, lap times, etc? I found the speed and tire pressure extremely useful at the track. I liked capability of seeing what my tire pressure was after I got the tires heated up. Does anyone know of a way to add this feature? Oil temperature and a clock is great, but I really don't need to know what voltage my altenator is producing.

01-22-2009, 03:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
Robert_Nash Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Middle TN/Savannah GA Posts: 762 Drives: '14 Q60IPL/'14Armada Rep Power: 17	Sorry...I can't tell you (don't know) the reasoning behind the change. The 370 doesn't have TPMS...funny, though, I don't remember being able to monitor TP from the center gauge cluster and I had TPMS on both my '07 Grand Touring Coupe and on my '08 Grand Touring Roadster...maybe that was something offered on the track and/or enthusiast models before they discontinued them??? I miss the digital speed readout but am slowloy getting used to using the analog speedomoter again. I would say that trying to add those features yourself would be a lot of work...I also would say, as an advid autocrosser, that I wouldn't trust the TPMS readout to know what my pressure was during an event; I'd always use a very good hand-held unit for that. __________________ Robert -My Basset Hound Is Smarter Than Your Honor Student and Barack Obama -

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Crash A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,853 Drives: 02 Corvette Z06 Rep Power: 589	That clock is staying right where it is on my car. However, it will be slightly modified. Ever heard of a BLINDER X-TREME? I'll be putting my warning light in that gauge right under the digital display. Nobody but me will know what it is. __________________ 2002 Corvette Z06 - Totaled 2003 Corvette Z06 50th Anniversary

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The Weapon Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 286 Drives: 370Z Tour/Sport Blk Rep Power: 3372	My guess on the TPMS was too many problems for people trying to swap rims. I remember that being the problem on my 03. As for the speedometer, I'll miss it too. I think the clock is worthless.

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RedlineHR Base Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CA Bay area Posts: 71 Drives: Red 07 Z, SS 06 Z Rep Power: 241	US Law requires that all new cars sold have a TPMS system. The 370 does have TPMS. Nissan stopped providing displays for PSI reading in each tire in the 2007 model year. All we get now is an indicator light on the dash if the pressure in any tire drips significantly lower than the other tires. I am assuning this is a liability thing. In the cars that said what the tire pressure is in each tire, people would get confused about which tire was low and air up the wrong one (idiots!). Also, people should not rely on TPMS to determine the amount of air in the tires, but they were so Nissan eliminated it. I really miss having that data, but TPMS is still there. You can also tell that it has TPMS by the bolt-on, rigid valve stem...

01-22-2009, 08:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
Nismo 370z Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: LA, California Posts: 91 Drives: 2012 GM Nismo 370z Rep Power: 481	Do u guys think we can take the multi function gauge from a 350 and install it in the 370? If we can then ill definately use the one from my car. Also I heard that the gauge which shows the fuel/temp levels has a screen similar to the multi function gauge of the 350 and shows different functions. 370 owners please chime in.

01-22-2009, 09:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
Nismo 370z Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: LA, California Posts: 91 Drives: 2012 GM Nismo 370z Rep Power: 481	Nevermine lol. I searched. My bad.