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M1K3 02-20-2010 10:16 PM

shifting without the clutch...
 
So I've heard it can be done. But can it be done on newer cars, namely the z?

6spd 02-20-2010 10:20 PM

yea, you have to steady the rpms at the right speed and the gears slide together.

I wouldn't bother trying it, just to save the life of the tranny by not grinding gears trying to learn.

The idea is to apply throttle so that as you slide the shifter out of gear, the rpms stay where they are, and then lower the rpms to the appropriate speed to engage the next gear. seems simple, but its only useful if your clutch ever takes a crap.

M1K3 02-20-2010 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 410390)
yea, you have to steady the rpms at the right speed and the gears slide together.

I wouldn't bother trying it, just to save the life of the tranny by not grinding gears trying to learn.

The idea is to apply throttle so that as you slide the shifter out of gear, the rpms stay where they are, and then lower the rpms to the appropriate speed to engage the next gear. seems simple, but its only useful if your clutch ever takes a crap.

Hmm..that's cool..now since our car rev match on downshift would it not be easy to shift down w/o the clutch as long as you have the right rpm to get it out of gear?

CrownR426 02-20-2010 10:47 PM

OP, can you not shift?
lol...
Why'd you get manual then?
Do it the right way!

zero 02-20-2010 10:54 PM

Please try and report back.

m4a1mustang 02-20-2010 11:07 PM

:wtf2:

frost 02-20-2010 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6spd (Post 410390)
but its only useful if your clutch ever takes a crap.

:iagree:

I did it when the trans in a former car took a dump just to limp it home. I'm sure someone can learn to do it quite well, but I sure had issues with it.

speedoflife 02-20-2010 11:15 PM

Also popular amongst semi-trailer truck drivers ("18 wheelers") because of the larger amount of gears they have to get through... but they also spend a good bit more time driving than we do.

nogoodname 02-20-2010 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedoflife (Post 410484)
Also popular amongst semi-trailer truck drivers ("18 wheelers") because of the larger amount of gears they have to get through... but they also spend a good bit more time driving than we do.

It gets annoying for them to keep using the clutch.... much easier to ruin the trans...LoL

6spd 02-20-2010 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M1K3 (Post 410412)
Hmm..that's cool..now since our car rev match on downshift would it not be easy to shift down w/o the clutch as long as you have the right rpm to get it out of gear?

SRM cant be used if you try this method because you have no throttle control. you would need to turn it off. the idea is to raise or lower the rpms BEFORE the gear is engaged, SRM revs after.

Chriz 02-21-2010 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 410414)
OP, can you not shift?
lol...
Why'd you get manual then?
Do it the right way!


What a helpful comment :facepalm:
Anyway other posts sum it up. I can't do it that well on my friends car but he can do it just fine whenever he does. I guess it just takes practice...

M1K3 02-21-2010 12:32 AM

Thanks for the info. Btw yes I can drive manual....was just curious and always like to learn new things that just may be used sometime. Thanks again! :tup:

Togo 02-21-2010 12:56 AM

Truck tranny and car tranny are different though.. one has synchro mesh the other doesn't. Trucks really don't need it for the gears other than say 1st and Rev.

NCSUPACK09 02-21-2010 06:39 AM

This thread seems to pop up on all kinds of forums. I was reading an E90 BMW thread where they discussed the very same topic. The posters above are correct in that it is possible if the RPMs are matched, but if not....:shakes head:. I wouldn't dare try to do it, but if you are not worried about messing up the tranny then go ahead and try it.

370Zsteve 02-21-2010 07:10 AM

:facepalm:


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