Do you drive with Vehicle Dynamic Control(VDC) off or on?

Vegitto-kun · 03-02-2010, 06:30 PM

I always wondered.

my button says ESP instead of VDC.

it IS the same thing right?

shabarivas · 03-02-2010, 06:50 PM

LOL ... same thing... but in regards to the comment above yours... I dont agree - VDC is all well and good but you can still fvck yourself up with it on... for instance: lets say you go into a turn wayyy too hot (or its raining and you forgot)... VDC kicks in and causes you to instantly understeer - BOOM you just hit the side rail...

All im saying is.. understand the car... understand the feature... and use it wisely... I would recommend ppl who can drive w/ it on but never see the car losing traction to try it off on familiar turns.. its hard to track your car every week

6spd · 03-02-2010, 06:52 PM

As far as I can tell from the little bit I've pushed the car with VDC off, any hard throttle exiting a turn will make the back break free. VDC will stay on unless I have a couple football fields worth of empty road around me! This car is damn powerful and I will admit down right scary if it breaks loose and you aren't ready. It must be respected as such!

Pushing_Tin · 03-02-2010, 08:01 PM

I'm a very competent driver and I bought this car do drive, but the oversteer is sudden and nasty. I drive with it on almost all of the time. I sure wish it had a sport setting which allowed for more leeway though.

6spd · 03-02-2010, 08:23 PM

the throttle cutout is what ticks me off, its far to harsh.

Brendan@Bwalk · 03-02-2010, 10:08 PM

For everyday driving I used to keep all the nannies off, until it got old pushing the button and seeing the light on. Now I leave them all on till I want to drive the car hard. I don't ever trigger DSC in my car by accident, and the only time I break traction is on purpose, so I'd rather only see the DSC off light illuminated when I plan to play a little.

KillerBee370 · 03-02-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 6spd

As far as I can tell from the little bit I've pushed the car with VDC off, any hard throttle exiting a turn will make the back break free. VDC will stay on unless I have a couple football fields worth of empty road around me! This car is damn powerful and I will admit down right scary if it breaks loose and you aren't ready. It must be respected as such!

ALWAYS be ready young padiwan!!

6spd · 03-02-2010, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerBee370

ALWAYS be ready young padawan!!

Fixed

NXTAZEE · 03-03-2010, 12:10 AM

Always on. The other day I turned it off to have a little fun. From a stop I made a left turn in first gear. Part way through the turn I stepped on it and the tires broke loose and the wife and I proceeded to go side ways through the turn. As I completed the turn, still in first gear, we were almost completely side ways so I let off the throttle and straitened it out. If I had more room I would have dropped second and kept going. Man that was a lot of fun.

kannibul · 03-03-2010, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NXTAZEE

Always on. The other day I turned it off to have a little fun. From a stop I made a left turn in first gear. Part way through the turn I stepped on it and the tires broke loose and the wife and I proceeded to go side ways through the turn. As I completed the turn, still in first gear, we were almost completely side ways so I let off the throttle and straitened it out. If I had more room I would have dropped second and kept going. Man that was a lot of fun.

I did something similar...sort of...lol

Parking lot, empty, slight incline to it, but not enough to throw things too far out of whack.

Stopped. VDC off. Kick the auto-stick over. Turn wheel all the way to the right. Floor it.

Car spins like a top. INSTANTLY. I did a 180 before I knew what happened (I expect it, but not THAT fast!) - so I stayed on it, and made another full circle (540) - then left the parking lot.

That was the last thing I've done involving VDC and the steering wheel being anything but straight.

A few days ago, I decided to remind myself of the amount of power. Dead stop. Turned off VDC. Kicked it over to the auto-stick. Floor it with wheels straight. Rear-end broke loose, and the rear kicked to the right then to the left for a mega-burnout in 1st through 2nd, and chirped 3rd.

VDC is a safety measure everyone should use. I don't care if you think you're a pro, the car has a VERY steep learning curve to it, and unless you want to explain to your insurnace company and pay high premiums, that extra safety measure is a good thing.

Maybe it is a bit too aggressive at knocking down the "funometer", but, it's doing so because perhaps the level of fun attempting to be had is bordering on stupid.

antman22 · 03-03-2010, 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegitto-kun

I always wondered.

my button says ESP instead of VDC.

it IS the same thing right?

nope, your europeans get the special Z. ESP= EXTRA SPEEDY POWER. rockets pop out the back and you're in for a treat.

i apologize for the stupid joke.

Yes, to my knowledge, ESP=VDC. ESP stands for Electronic Stability Program. Nissan calls it VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control) cuz they got tired of americans thinking their cars had psychic ability.

again, i apologize for the stupid joke.

nuTinmuch · 03-03-2010, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shabarivas

LOL ... same thing... but in regards to the comment above yours... I dont agree - VDC is all well and good but you can still fvck yourself up with it on... for instance: lets say you go into a turn wayyy too hot (or its raining and you forgot)... VDC kicks in and causes you to instantly understeer - BOOM you just hit the side rail...

All im saying is.. understand the car... understand the feature... and use it wisely... I would recommend ppl who can drive w/ it on but never see the car losing traction to try it off on familiar turns.. its hard to track your car every week

it's raining

and you forgot it was raining

you also forgot you drive a powerful rwd car

you also forgot your foot operates a pedal that increases forward acceleration

i'm pretty sure having vdc off would save you there, yeah

NXTAZEE · 03-03-2010, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kannibul

I did something similar...sort of...lol

Parking lot, empty, slight incline to it, but not enough to throw things too far out of whack.

Stopped. VDC off. Kick the auto-stick over. Turn wheel all the way to the right. Floor it.

Car spins like a top. INSTANTLY. I did a 180 before I knew what happened (I expect it, but not THAT fast!) - so I stayed on it, and made another full circle (540) - then left the parking lot.

That was the last thing I've done involving VDC and the steering wheel being anything but straight.

A few days ago, I decided to remind myself of the amount of power. Dead stop. Turned off VDC. Kicked it over to the auto-stick. Floor it with wheels straight. Rear-end broke loose, and the rear kicked to the right then to the left for a mega-burnout in 1st through 2nd, and chirped 3rd.

VDC is a safety measure everyone should use. I don't care if you think you're a pro, the car has a VERY steep learning curve to it, and unless you want to explain to your insurnace company and pay high premiums, that extra safety measure is a good thing.

Maybe it is a bit too aggressive at knocking down the "funometer", but, it's doing so because perhaps the level of fun attempting to be had is bordering on stupid.

Very nice. I'll have to try a good burnout one of these days. Never done one like you mentioned. Have you tried that in manual mode? Would there be any difference?

kannibul · 03-03-2010, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NXTAZEE

Very nice. I'll have to try a good burnout one of these days. Never done one like you mentioned. Have you tried that in manual mode? Would there be any difference?

Manual mode lets you decide when to shift and the shifting is a bit firmer, so it keeps things spinninig

Nothing like flooring it and having it run up and stay between 6K and 7.5K, shifting and it dropping a bit and staying at 6K-7.5K, shifting it again, and it dropping and grabbing.

The car rolling forward slowly (as compared to the speedometer) - lol

I'm sure it plays hell on the drivetrain, but man it's freaking nuts. All that without a brake-stand - just flooring it from a dead stop.

Drift Motion · 03-03-2010, 05:37 PM

i turn it off when it rains

sideway action FTW

03-02-2010, 06:52 PM	#63 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	As far as I can tell from the little bit I've pushed the car with VDC off, any hard throttle exiting a turn will make the back break free. VDC will stay on unless I have a couple football fields worth of empty road around me! This car is damn powerful and I will admit down right scary if it breaks loose and you aren't ready. It must be respected as such! __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

03-02-2010, 08:23 PM	#65 (permalink)
6spd A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,001 Drives: Q50RS Rep Power: 25	the throttle cutout is what ticks me off, its far to harsh. __________________ -Jay- jonathanjamesphotographer.com

03-02-2010, 10:08 PM	#66 (permalink)
Brendan@Bwalk Supporting Nissan Dealer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Redwood City, CA Posts: 56 Drives: Unreliable V8 Rep Power: 15	For everyday driving I used to keep all the nannies off, until it got old pushing the button and seeing the light on. Now I leave them all on till I want to drive the car hard. I don't ever trigger DSC in my car by accident, and the only time I break traction is on purpose, so I'd rather only see the DSC off light illuminated when I plan to play a little. __________________ Brendan Dolan Internet Sales Boardwalk Nissan Check out my current 370Z inventory! Check out my Nissan Leaf Blog and help me pad the analytics with unique visitors...

03-03-2010, 12:10 AM	#69 (permalink)
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03-02-2010, 06:30 PM	#61 (permalink)
Vegitto-kun A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,011 Drives: 09 370Z Rep Power: 262	I always wondered. my button says ESP instead of VDC. it IS the same thing right?

03-02-2010, 06:50 PM	#62 (permalink)
shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	LOL ... same thing... but in regards to the comment above yours... I dont agree - VDC is all well and good but you can still fvck yourself up with it on... for instance: lets say you go into a turn wayyy too hot (or its raining and you forgot)... VDC kicks in and causes you to instantly understeer - BOOM you just hit the side rail... All im saying is.. understand the car... understand the feature... and use it wisely... I would recommend ppl who can drive w/ it on but never see the car losing traction to try it off on familiar turns.. its hard to track your car every week

03-02-2010, 08:01 PM	#64 (permalink)
Pushing_Tin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Eugene, OR Posts: 2,875 Drives: E63 AMG Rep Power: 228	I'm a very competent driver and I bought this car do drive, but the oversteer is sudden and nasty. I drive with it on almost all of the time. I sure wish it had a sport setting which allowed for more leeway though.

03-03-2010, 05:37 PM	#75 (permalink)
Drift Motion Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 626 Posts: 76 Drives: 2010 PW 6MT Rep Power: 16	i turn it off when it rains sideway action FTW