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cstr_Cali 11-06-2008 10:43 PM

Pricing guesstimates
 
What are you guys guessing for pricing right now? I'm hoping it won't be too far from current pricing even though I know they're shooting to compete with the Cayman performance wise. Nissan is still an every-man's car brand and the Z should be positioned as such.

AK370Z 11-06-2008 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cstr_Cali (Post 724)
What are you guys guessing for pricing right now? I'm hoping it won't be too far from current pricing even though I know they're shooting to compete with the Cayman performance wise. Nissan is still an every-man's car brand and the Z should be positioned as such.

Well our initial guess was 29500. In the Z focus group meeting (which was held on Aug 21st 2008) they announced the Z base price would be 29500. But today there were some Japanese documents circulated on the web and here you can see it yourself

http://www.the370z.com/members/ak370...icing-info.jpg

Get your calculator ready and call you Japanese friends :icon17:

Basically here are some of the info from the image


Base 6MT 31,880

ST (our touring) 6MT 38,350 -41K

7AT 40,300- 42

Also notice the weight has jumped to 3260 lbs instead of speculated 3134

cstr_Cali 11-06-2008 11:18 PM

Kinda pricey considering that's just the base model, but it is a high caliber performance car.

kacz07 11-07-2008 09:58 AM

dude, the 2009 wrx sedan is going to start 6k cheaper with AWD and 0-60 in 4.7 seconds...the 370z better be ridiculous for that price

GuIdo 11-07-2008 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kacz07 (Post 791)
dude, the 2009 wrx sedan is going to start 6k cheaper with AWD and 0-60 in 4.7 seconds...the 370z better be ridiculous for that price

i read that tha 09 wrx is 5.1 and tha sti is 4.9

areyouin729 11-07-2008 07:24 PM

I will bet any amount of money the base is under $30k

it is simple business, people see $29,999 and it gets them in the door, they see $30,000 and it turns them off

it may be a $1 difference but that isnt what people see...trust me I was a business major and did many studies on stuff like this, it's mind blowing

AK370Z 11-07-2008 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GuIdo (Post 818)
i read that tha 09 wrx is 5.1 and tha sti is 4.9

That's pretty fast :tup: . I personally not a big fan of 4 doors, 4 seater performance sedans but if I were to get a 4 door, I think it would be Lancer Evo. I like the look of that car.
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Originally Posted by areyouin729 (Post 826)
I will bet any amount of money the base is under $30k

it is simple business, people see $29,999 and it gets them in the door, they see $30,000 and it turns them off

it may be a $1 difference but that isnt what people see...trust me I was a business major and did many studies on stuff like this, it's mind blowing

You do have a good point. We see this in effect every single day in various stores. It was discussed in the focus group meeting that it'll be $29,500 but that recent leaked documents is showing other wise. I'm not sure how old these docs are but I would love to see a 29,500 price tag. BUT I will say this, with such a big upgrade and HP bump, it kinda make sense that the car will go up more than $1000 dollars since the base price is $28,510

http://www.the370z.com/images/370zforum/z%20price.PNG

Do you see where I'm going with this? If you were in charge of new Nissan Z pricing, would you give the brand new Z away for $900 more than the current model?

cstr_Cali 11-07-2008 08:44 PM

I don't know what the growth of incomes are at the present, but I imagine incomes to be remaining either stagnant or decreasing. With that said people will be pinching their wallets even tighter, and the Z customer probably for the most part doesn't have inelastic enough an income to accommodate a price increase of much more beyond where the Z is that present, and that's if you want to sell the car in decent numbers.

areyouin729 11-07-2008 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cstr_Cali (Post 838)
I don't know what the growth of incomes are at the present, but I imagine incomes to be remaining either stagnant or decreasing. With that said people will be pinching their wallets even tighter, and the Z customer probably for the most part doesn't have inelastic enough an income to accommodate a price increase of much more beyond where the Z is that present, and that's if you want to sell the car in decent numbers.

I agree

while I have a pretty good job, I have a lot of student loans which hinder me to the point where a $1000 this way or that way can make or break a deal

I really only want a base model or maybe the next model up, I had the enthusiast 350Z and that was plenty fine for me

Nissan370z 11-08-2008 03:10 PM

I hope the auto is below $35k...fingers crossed!

AK370Z 11-08-2008 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cstr_Cali (Post 838)
I don't know what the growth of incomes are at the present, but I imagine incomes to be remaining either stagnant or decreasing. With that said people will be pinching their wallets even tighter, and the Z customer probably for the most part doesn't have inelastic enough an income to accommodate a price increase of much more beyond where the Z is that present, and that's if you want to sell the car in decent numbers.

Good point. With our recent economic devastation and Nissan negative http://www.the370z.com/lounge-off-to...1-03-08-a.html sales, Nissan will do anything to sell this car. They ARE aware of other car prices (i.e. V6 Camaro starting at 23,xxx with 300 HP). I think the new Z SHOULD start at 31500. It's exactly 2000 more than the current model. With all the new changes, I think that's expected.

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Originally Posted by areyouin729 (Post 845)
I agree

while I have a pretty good job, I have a lot of student loans which hinder me to the point where a $1000 this way or that way can make or break a deal

I really only want a base model or maybe the next model up, I had the enthusiast 350Z and that was plenty fine for me

I ALWAYS like my sports car - the lightest model available. As for 350Z, the base is the lightest model (NOT Nismo). I think Enthusiast gives you the best bang for your buck.

On our new 370Z, I think the base Z + Sports Package = Best deal :tup:

cstr_Cali 11-08-2008 10:35 PM

I just built what would at the present be my ideal Z: Enthusiast w/ 5 spd auto and side curtain airbags, all for $32,525. That's a decent price and probably a "G" away from what my price ceiling would be.

AK370Z 11-08-2008 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cstr_Cali (Post 968)
I just built what would at the present be my ideal Z: Enthusiast w/ 5 spd auto and side curtain airbags, all for $32,525. That's a decent price and probably a "G" away from what my price ceiling would be.

I think for the new Z, you gotta add at least 2 - 2.5 Gs for the same options. You gotta understand though, it's a brand new model Z. Does this steer you away a little?

cstr_Cali 11-09-2008 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 971)
Does this steer you away a little?

You know what's funny? I find myself looking at the E92 335i, a car I had hard time liking because of the somewhat subdued nature in its responses, but looking at all the flashy rides on E90Post makes me want one again... and that car costs substantially more than the Z. So to answer your question; NO.

I told myself no car is worth spending as much as the Germans command, but you are still getting a lot of car for your money. That is despite the fact if you keep the car past warranty and crap may start to fail, despite the fact they're generally pretty pretentious automobiles that are more likely to get keyed than any other car you can buy. Sorry, I'm talking to myself..excuse me.

AK370Z 11-09-2008 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by cstr_Cali (Post 976)
You know what's funny? I find myself looking at the E92 335i, a car I had hard time liking because of the somewhat subdued nature in its responses, but looking at all the flashy rides on E90Post makes me want one again... and that car costs substantially more than the Z. So to answer your question; NO.

I told myself no car is worth spending as much as the Germans command, but you are still getting a lot of car for your money. That is despite the fact if you keep the car past warranty and crap may start to fail, despite the fact they're generally pretty pretentious automobiles that are more likely to get keyed than any other car you can buy. Sorry, I'm talking to myself..excuse me.

No that's fine. You have some good points. German engineering IS good but it's expansive. Many people buy them for status icon these days. IMO they are heavy and I just do not like heavy cars. My favorite cars other than the Z would be S2000, Lotus Elise, Miata (even though I can't get past the look). They are all lighter car.

So, back on topic. What price from Nissan would you accept for a 370z with those options?

cstr_Cali 11-09-2008 07:21 PM

Max $33k before T+L. That's it.

AK370Z 11-10-2008 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cstr_Cali (Post 999)
Max $33k before T+L. That's it.

Well I def see the 370Z equipped with side impact airbags standard so the only option you have to add is the automatic. I don't see why you can't get it for $33K before T & L. It also helps if you wanna drive a little (to different states/city) to get your new car. I have seen huge variations in prices from one state (city) to another.

cstr_Cali 11-10-2008 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 1009)
I have seen huge variations in prices from one state (city) to another.

I have never thought about that, might be a good idea.

AK370Z 11-10-2008 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cstr_Cali (Post 1080)
I have never thought about that, might be a good idea.

IMO best way to buy a new car is research all over the country. Find the best deal. Make everything ready. Fly there and drive back. Nothing like a cross country drive in your new Z. That's exactly what i'm doing. We recently did this with my friend (onethreefive's) BMW. Lotta fun :tup:

CrownR426 11-18-2008 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AK370Z (Post 1083)
IMO best way to buy a new car is research all over the country. Find the best deal. Make everything ready. Fly there and drive back. Nothing like a cross country drive in your new Z. That's exactly what i'm doing. We recently did this with my friend (onethreefive's) BMW. Lotta fun :tup:

I would like the know the best deal area
Get me in on this AK please!
I'm a fellow jersian! :hello:

Erich 11-19-2008 05:42 PM

Starts at $29,930 as said on nissanusa.com

Nissan370z 11-20-2008 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Erich (Post 2362)
Starts at $29,930 as said on nissanusa.com

Secretly that price excludes destination charge, lol :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'm guessing that the base model with auto tranny and sports package is going to cost around $35k+tax and dealer markups. :ugh2:

AK370Z 11-20-2008 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Nissan370z (Post 2421)
Secretly that price excludes destination charge, lol :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'm guessing that the base model with auto tranny and sports package is going to cost around $35k+tax and dealer markups. :ugh2:

$29,993 will get you stripped base model. For many that's the perfect base to mod the car. But somef like their cars fully loaded. It all depends on what's your plan for the car.

CrownR426 11-20-2008 03:56 AM

How much do you guys think a Touring + Sports + Navi Trim?
Hoping for under 38,000 :<

KarbonXX 11-20-2008 09:48 PM

Im thinking Touring + Navi would be 35,000

dutty370Z 11-21-2008 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KarbonXX (Post 2596)
Im thinking Touring + Navi would be 35,000

i think so too... i'm debating whether i need navi though. the chances of me takin this z some place far and/or foreign is very slim. But the dash with the navigation system looks nicer than the one without...

cstr_Cali 11-22-2008 01:13 AM

How bout Touring + Sport???? + 7SAT???

AK370Z 11-22-2008 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dutty370Z (Post 2752)
But the dash with the navigation system looks nicer than the one without...

That's a good point. Many people get the stock nav (even though they aren't that great) just because it make the interior looks nicer.

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Originally Posted by cstr_Cali (Post 2812)
How bout Touring + Sport???? + 7SAT???

Isn't sports package automatically gives you S package meaning if it's auto you get 7SAT paddles and if it's manual you get S6SPD (rev match)? That's what I thought. Nissan is going to sell Sports package on 90% of their Z IMO. It's just too good to pass up. It's a perfect package for any Z enthusiast. Kinda like Z51 package on corvette.

jaesung83 11-22-2008 03:09 AM

once the 370z comes out in couple of months, the 350z is no longer made in more cause 370z replaced it... the 370 cost with options n' all other good stuff its around 35-38ish K...

therefore, making the 350z used or fairly new gonna cost about 20-25ish K... if you guys gonna tune it n' hook it up. dont you guys think it be more for your money to get a 350z? think about it if you spend 25k on a 350z and 370z cost 35k you save 10k... n' with that 10k you can use that money to tune up ur car? dunt get me wrong 370z is a great car but for the money 350z n' put that 10k into your car... itz gonna hella of a ride!! like twin turbo $6000 n' dual exhaust $1500, wheels n' tires $2500 n' do little stuff to the engine like cam, rods, etc. $1000. if you do that you can easilly put at least 500whp to the wheels...

CrownR426 11-22-2008 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jaesung83 (Post 2830)
once the 370z comes out in couple of months, the 350z is no longer made in more cause 370z replaced it... the 370 cost with options n' all other good stuff its around 35-38ish K...

therefore, making the 350z used or fairly new gonna cost about 20-25ish K... if you guys gonna tune it n' hook it up. dont you guys think it be more for your money to get a 350z? think about it if you spend 25k on a 350z and 370z cost 35k you save 10k... n' with that 10k you can use that money to tune up ur car? dunt get me wrong 370z is a great car but for the money 350z n' put that 10k into your car... itz gonna hella of a ride!! like twin turbo $6000 n' dual exhaust $1500, wheels n' tires $2500 n' do little stuff to the engine like cam, rods, etc. $1000. if you do that you can easilly put at least 500whp to the wheels...

OR...
You can just save up and wait, then get the 370z.
Then save more and wait, then tt it and all the steroids you want...
Patience is a virtue.
If you can't wait go get the 350 lmao...
But I think people should wait and get the 370! :tup:

dutty370Z 11-22-2008 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CrownR426 (Post 2832)
OR...
You can just save up and wait, then get the 370z.
Then save more and wait, then tt it and all the steroids you want...
Patience is a virtue.
If you can't wait go get the 350 lmao...
But I think people should wait and get the 370! :tup:

definately wait and save up for the 370z IMO. because your gonna put $10,000 into an older 350z, and it still wont look as good as a stock 370z. Then you'll feel like an @ss.

FABG37 11-22-2008 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dutty370Z (Post 2868)
definately wait and save up for the 370z IMO. because your gonna put $10,000 into an older 350z, and it still wont look as good as a stock 370z. Then you'll feel like an @ss.

+1... i would feel like crap in a 350 and a 370 rolled up next me

WUKILLABEEZ78 11-23-2008 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cstr_Cali (Post 838)
I don't know what the growth of incomes are at the present, but I imagine incomes to be remaining either stagnant or decreasing. With that said people will be pinching their wallets even tighter, and the Z customer probably for the most part doesn't have inelastic enough an income to accommodate a price increase of much more beyond where the Z is that present, and that's if you want to sell the car in decent numbers.

The economy has no bearing on cars like the 370Z because it isn't a car for the masses. True, it's an affordable enough car for many people but it isn't a car that Nissan relies on for volume sales. It's not a four door family sedan that is marketed to move units like the Altima, Accord, Camry, etc... Nissan will have no problem raising the price because they're not trying to sell 500,000 370Z's a year.

Nissan isn't a premium brand but the 370Z is one of the more expensive cars they sale. You can end up getting into Infiniti territory configuring an altima or maxima depending on what options you add on. I'm looking to get a 2009 370Z automatic with all the bells and whistles and I'm expecting to spend around $40,000 and probably more if I opt for extended warranty, or any service plans like oil changes, etc...

cstr_Cali 11-23-2008 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WUKILLABEEZ78 (Post 3154)
The economy has no bearing on cars like the 370Z because it isn't a car for the masses. True, it's an affordable enough car for many people but it isn't a car that Nissan relies on for volume sales. It's not a four door family sedan that is marketed to move units like the Altima, Accord, Camry, etc... Nissan will have no problem raising the price because they're not trying to sell 500,000 370Z's a year.

Nissan isn't a premium brand but the 370Z is one of the more expensive cars they sale. You can end up getting into Infiniti territory configuring an altima or maxima depending on what options you add on. I'm looking to get a 2009 370Z automatic with all the bells and whistles and I'm expecting to spend around $40,000 and probably more if I opt for extended warranty, or any service plans like oil changes, etc...

You know, I was thinking about this today and I think what you quoted me on is far more applicable to the Chevy Camaro than the 370Z. Totally out of left field until you understand how heavily GM is counting on the Zeta Camaro to sell. Nissan on the other hand isn't too concerned with selling 100k+ Z's a year. I have no idea what the sales targets are for the Z34 but I'm sure it's a modest number. Anyways, I digress; My point was to emphasize the need to keep the Z34 as attainable as possible despite the lofty aspirations on behalf of Nissan to see this car running neck and neck with some of Deutschlands' finest on a performance level. Looking at the facts I think Nissan has delivered both price and performance wise.

WUKILLABEEZ78 11-23-2008 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cstr_Cali (Post 3162)
You know, I was thinking about this today and I think what you quoted me on is far more applicable to the Chevy Camaro than the 370Z. Totally out of left field until you understand how heavily GM is counting on the Zeta Camaro to sell. Nissan on the other hand isn't too concerned with selling 100k+ Z's a year. I have no idea what the sales targets are for the Z34 but I'm sure it's a modest number. Anyways, I digress; My point was to emphasize the need to keep the Z34 as attainable as possible despite the lofty aspirations on behalf of Nissan to see this car running neck and neck with some of Deutschlands' finest on a performance level. Looking at the facts I think Nissan has delivered both price and performance wise.

I understand what you're saying. I think that in todays world $40,000 for a fully loaded Nissan that has all the bells and whistles(navigation, etc...) and can compete performance wise with German cars that cost a lot more similarly configured is a great bargain. You're right about the new camaro, GM is losing money and needs all of it's cars to meet and exceed any sales projections they have.

Zguy 11-24-2008 10:27 AM

I will wait until August or Nov 09 then I can pick up a used one for much cheaper.... Im sure there will be a few with the mods I want for 5 or 6k cheaper than a new one....

dutty370Z 11-25-2008 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by WUKILLABEEZ78 (Post 3164)
... I think that in todays world $40,000 for a fully loaded Nissan that has all the bells and whistles(navigation, etc...) and can compete performance wise with German cars that cost a lot moresimilarly configured is a great bargain...

I'm sorry guys, though I LOVE the 370z, I'm just not willing to spend $40k on it. I can't spend that much money on sumn that I wanna chuck around traffic and mod, thats probably gonna get scratched and banged up a lil bit.

dutty370Z 11-25-2008 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Zguy (Post 3225)
I will wait until August or Nov 09 then I can pick up a used one for much cheaper.... Im sure there will be a few with the mods I want for 5 or 6k cheaper than a new one....

lol, I don't know if any of these guys would want to mod then give up their 370z after only 1 & 1/2 years, I wouldnt. BUT there are a bunch of G37s on CARMAX now for well below what they initially costed, if thats any indication. Car Finder by Zip Code at carmax.com

WUKILLABEEZ78 11-25-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dutty370Z (Post 3313)
I'm sorry guys, though I LOVE the 370z, I'm just not willing to spend $40k on it. I can't spend that much money on sumn that I wanna chuck around traffic and mod, thats probably gonna get scratched and banged up a lil bit.

I'm talking $40k for a fully loaded one, all the options (nav/sport) maybe some accessories like the lighted door sills, etc... I like getting my cars fully loaded because I don't really drive my cars that hard anymore (although I still like sporty cars) and I enjoy all of the technology going into cars nowadays (hard drive/back up cameras,etc...). The base model is just under $30k so if that's what you want you don't have to worry about spending anymore than that.

BlackBullet 11-25-2008 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Nissan370z (Post 2421)
....... is going to cost around $35k+tax and dealer markups. :ugh2:

If any dealer still think that can do markups in this economy, they are completely out of their mind. Most car dealer are trying to keep open let alone sell cars. The crap that Chevy dealers pulled with the ZR1 with 70k markup, is some of the small reason that lead to them bagging for the bailout.


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