Nissan 370Z Forum  

370Z paint durability

How is the durability of the paint compared to the 350Z? And also, from what I have heard from you guys, the paint of the 370Z is not that good

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Nissan 370Z General Discussions


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-07-2010, 02:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
Base Member
 
370zlove3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 73
Drives: 2010 370Z
Rep Power: 16
370zlove3 is on a distinguished road
Default 370Z paint durability

How is the durability of the paint compared to the 350Z? And also, from what I have heard from you guys, the paint of the 370Z is not that good - bird poop would ruin it easily. I have only seen maybe 2 370Z here in real life and both times I could not really get a close inspection of it. Here, I have seen many 350Z (not black) and their coats were in decent condition.

My other question is, why not complain to Nissan about it and so they can upgrade the paint coating for next year? Perhaps maybe use the Infinite's scratch-proof-thank-you-sun coating?
370zlove3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2010, 02:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
NYBladeZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 2,158
Drives: Lotus Exige S
Rep Power: 20
NYBladeZ has a spectacular aura aboutNYBladeZ has a spectacular aura about
Default

It's always hard to get a free fix from a dealer, if Nissan addresses it they won't give current owners anything but address future models. Buyer beware, go over every inch with the dealer and cross your fingers. I'm probably over exaggerating but the red paint around my fangs did crack under the clearcoat with less than 3K thankfully I'm not using it.
__________________
2009 Carbon Fiber/Red 370z aka Trish: Sports Package, Meisterschaft full catback, Fast Intentions Longtube Headers, Injen Long Tube Intakes, UpRev Tune: Sold
2008 Lotus Exige S Club Racer aka Bella, always leaves me smiling
NYBladeZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2010, 02:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
Enthusiast Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Virginia
Posts: 356
Drives: '14 GTR Premium
Rep Power: 17
StealthZ has much to be proud ofStealthZ has much to be proud ofStealthZ has much to be proud ofStealthZ has much to be proud ofStealthZ has much to be proud ofStealthZ has much to be proud ofStealthZ has much to be proud ofStealthZ has much to be proud ofStealthZ has much to be proud of
Default

I know first hand from minor paint problems and know that when you go to the Nissan dealer and if they find it to be a defect it is handled differently then a normal part under warranty. as it is a quality control issue of a different level and raises more flags per say then your windshield wipers not working issue.
In comparison, I've owned the last generation 350z VQ35HR and didn't really have any paint issues and seams almost the same as my 370Z. The finish is way better on this car as there is no orange peal at all. Nissan/Infinity is known to have a softer paint, nothing special like the hard clear coat on corvette's and ceramics used on Euro models.
Overall I think the paint is good-to-go. Take care of your paint and it will shine.
Cheers
StealthZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2010, 03:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
TreeSemdyZee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Kentuck-IANA
Age: 60
Posts: 4,885
Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke
Rep Power: 27408
TreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond reputeTreeSemdyZee has a reputation beyond repute
Default

They use electrostatic paint that goes on extremely thin. If you look at the paint at a certain angle, you'll see a lot of "orange-peel". The GTRs are the same. The hood and front end of my 350 had major cancer before I got rid of it. Don't expect Nissan to do anything about it.
Japanese carmakers are known to have extremely thin coats of paint. If you check out Zymol wax (not the crap you get at Autozone, the expensive stuff) they have a wax specifically for Japanese cars.

Last edited by TreeSemdyZee; 02-08-2010 at 06:57 AM.
TreeSemdyZee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2010, 03:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
Track Member
 
zmyride's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 631
Drives: 10 Black Sports 7AT
Rep Power: 16
zmyride has a spectacular aura aboutzmyride has a spectacular aura about
Default

i think Nissan uses alumninum for the hood, doors, trunk to reduce weights. maybe theres a reason why they keep the paint like it is.
zmyride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2010, 03:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
Base Member
 
370zlove3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 73
Drives: 2010 370Z
Rep Power: 16
370zlove3 is on a distinguished road
Default

Just how much weight would you put on the car though? I would imagine the majority of the people would rather have a paint that is strong and durable versus something that reduces the weight only slightly (correct me if I'm wrong).
I know most buyers get turned off because of the coating. But, I know they have the technology to improve the durability - look at the Infinite G37 lineup.

Black is something I would consider buying but I read too many horror stories about it.
370zlove3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2010, 03:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
CBRich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: SC
Posts: 2,464
Drives: 370Z
Rep Power: 544
CBRich has a reputation beyond reputeCBRich has a reputation beyond reputeCBRich has a reputation beyond reputeCBRich has a reputation beyond reputeCBRich has a reputation beyond reputeCBRich has a reputation beyond reputeCBRich has a reputation beyond reputeCBRich has a reputation beyond reputeCBRich has a reputation beyond reputeCBRich has a reputation beyond reputeCBRich has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I would happily let the car weigh five pounds more and get decent paint. This is definitely the worst paint I've had but not something I cry about at night. It's just car paint.
CBRich is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2010, 05:11 PM   #8 (permalink)
Base Member
 
370zlove3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 73
Drives: 2010 370Z
Rep Power: 16
370zlove3 is on a distinguished road
Default

I wonder if a staff from Nissan is looking at this.

Make it happen, Nissan!
370zlove3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2010, 07:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Jenks, OK
Posts: 2,281
Drives: 370z Touring/Sport
Rep Power: 267
kannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee View Post
They use electrostatic paint that goes on extremely thin. If you look at the paint at a certain angle, you'll see a lot of "orange-peel". The GTRs are the same. The hood and front end of my 350 had major cancer before I got rid of it. Don't expect Nissan to do anything about it.
Japanese carmakers are known to have extremely thin coats of paint. If you check out Zymol wax (not the crap you get at Autozone, the expensive stuff) and they have a wax specifically for Japanese cars.
electrostatic paint is great for being low waste, but it definately produces orange peel because it is so thin. Porsche's, BMW's, Ferrari...they all have orange peel because of it.

Gone are the days of the perfect mirror paint finish with the color coat. It might be flat as glass on the clear, but the color coat always shows something with a number of cars these days.

It's just a symptom of thin paint, which, thin paint = lighter car = better emissions (to an extent)

Maybe they're trying for the golfball approach?
kannibul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2010, 07:02 PM   #10 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Jenks, OK
Posts: 2,281
Drives: 370z Touring/Sport
Rep Power: 267
kannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond reputekannibul has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CBRich View Post
I would happily let the car weigh five pounds more and get decent paint. This is definitely the worst paint I've had but not something I cry about at night. It's just car paint.
My Nissan Frontier chipped in the door jamb from my shoe going across it. Granted, I have metal tabs on my shows (boots, actually), but it shouldn't have chipped.

That said, talk about a heavy hood - the frontier's hood weighs at least 2.5x that of the Z's hood. It takes some actual muscle to get that thing up!
kannibul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2010, 01:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
Base Member
 
OldGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Greensburg PA
Posts: 899
Drives: '09370Z Red Base A7
Rep Power: 16
OldGuy has a spectacular aura aboutOldGuy has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee View Post
They use electrostatic paint that goes on extremely thin. If you look at the paint at a certain angle, you'll see a lot of "orange-peel". The GTRs are the same. The hood and front end of my 350 had major cancer before I got rid of it. Don't expect Nissan to do anything about it.
Japanese carmakers are known to have extremely thin coats of paint. If you check out Zymol wax (not the crap you get at Autozone, the expensive stuff) they have a wax specifically for Japanese cars.
Do you recall any further clues as to the name of the Zymol wax for soft paint cars. I couldn't identify it on their website
OldGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2010, 01:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
370Zsteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Gold Coast CT
Posts: 10,599
Drives: 2019 Corvette G.S.
Rep Power: 43
370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute370Zsteve has a reputation beyond repute
Default

The paint on my wife's Mercedes is similar in hardness and durability to the enamel on my sink. You get what you pay for, I guess.
__________________
SOLD MY Z MARCH 2018 - another Core OG moves on - new ride 2019 Z Corvette Grand Sport - no mods necessary but already have eyes on HFC and intakes LOL IT NEVER ENDS.
370Zsteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2010, 01:33 PM   #13 (permalink)
Track Member
 
zmyride's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 631
Drives: 10 Black Sports 7AT
Rep Power: 16
zmyride has a spectacular aura aboutzmyride has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 370Zsteve View Post
The paint on my wife's Mercedes is similar in hardness and durability to the enamel on my sink. You get what you pay for, I guess.
Mercedes are mechanic-friendly...Too bad only the car lasts as long as the paint.
zmyride is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2010, 10:21 PM   #14 (permalink)
Base Member
 
OldGuy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Greensburg PA
Posts: 899
Drives: '09370Z Red Base A7
Rep Power: 16
OldGuy has a spectacular aura aboutOldGuy has a spectacular aura about
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 370zlove3 View Post
How is the durability of the paint compared to the 350Z? And also, from what I have heard from you guys, the paint of the 370Z is not that good - bird poop would ruin it easily. I have only seen maybe 2 370Z here in real life and both times I could not really get a close inspection of it. Here, I have seen many 350Z (not black) and their coats were in decent condition.

My other question is, why not complain to Nissan about it and so they can upgrade the paint coating for next year? Perhaps maybe use the Infinite's scratch-proof-thank-you-sun coating?
This is quoted from the Nissan write-up for the European 40th Anniversary Special:
"As its name implies, the Euro-spec 370Z Black Edition comes in two metallic
shades black and quartz with both paints using Nissan's Scratch Shield technology that promises to 'heal' the finish in the case of stone chip damage." Wish we had that.
OldGuy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2010, 05:48 AM   #15 (permalink)
Base Member
 
370zlove3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 73
Drives: 2010 370Z
Rep Power: 16
370zlove3 is on a distinguished road
Default

If that is officially from Nissan's mouth then that is good news.

If you are going to use clearbra, what is the best place to put it?
I know the front, bumper (front), side mirrors, are some. What other places should one consider? Are the rear and roof a waste of money?
370zlove3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
370z Paint Defects jose_o9 Exterior & Interior 97 10-16-2014 02:32 PM
370Z Paint Job 'Orange Peel' 370er Australia/New Zealand 18 02-06-2012 08:21 PM
2009 370z bad paint job??? Salvatorey Exterior & Interior 27 02-06-2010 12:43 PM
Durability FlorenceZ Nissan 370Z General Discussions 13 02-06-2010 10:23 AM
Anyone know the paint codes for the 370Z? G in ny Exterior & Interior 3 02-01-2009 12:43 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:24 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2