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Originally Posted by FricFrac Just a reminder - this stuff helps but it doesn't stop rock chips. If the rock is sharp its going through and what do you think

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Old 03-05-2010, 06:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just a reminder - this stuff helps but it doesn't stop rock chips. If the rock is sharp its going through and what do you think a thin film will do to a rock traveling over 50MPH? It helps but its not perfect..... and you KNOW the rocks are gonna hit it where there isn't any clearbra....
You know normally I do not reply to posts where the individual is clueless as to what they are talking about, but this time I need to step in an correct this statement. Paint protection film was designed for millitary use on aircraft. It will EASILY stop a stone at 50 mph from reaching the paint. In fact, here is a video that shows rocks being projected at speeds of well over 100mph at a painted steel plate. Watch it and learn something. Notice no tearing in the film and no damage to the paint on the protected surfaces.

YouTube - 3M Gravelometer

I personally have had clients take their car down to the Texas Mile where they are runnning at speeds over 200mph and they are not getting any damage on their vehicle. A lot of my customers track their vehicles (at speeds I am sure are over 50mph) and guess what??? No rock chips. Yes you can potentially get a rock chip where you dont have film... but you typically tend to cover areas where you get the most damage. If that isnt enough, well get the entire hood, entire fenders, bumper, rocker panels, rear wheel impact areas wrapped and dont worry about it. The install will cost much less than having those areas repainted and you wont have to worry about having the paint matched, being without your vehicle while being painted, and having to repaint again once the chips start accumulating.

I really suggest you do some research before you get on here making ridiculous statements thats are based on uneducated opinion... not facts. A google search will bring up numerous videos, test results, and customer comments backing up how well the film holds up.
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You know normally I do not reply to posts where the individual is clueless as to what they are talking about, but this time I need to step in an correct this statement. Paint protection film was designed for millitary use on aircraft. It will EASILY stop a stone at 50 mph from reaching the paint. In fact, here is a video that shows rocks being projected at speeds of well over 100mph at a painted steel plate. Watch it and learn something. Notice no tearing in the film and no damage to the paint on the protected surfaces.

YouTube - 3M Gravelometer

I personally have had clients take their car down to the Texas Mile where they are runnning at speeds over 200mph and they are not getting any damage on their vehicle. A lot of my customers track their vehicles (at speeds I am sure are over 50mph) and guess what??? No rock chips. Yes you can potentially get a rock chip where you dont have film... but you typically tend to cover areas where you get the most damage. If that isnt enough, well get the entire hood, entire fenders, bumper, rocker panels, rear wheel impact areas wrapped and dont worry about it. The install will cost much less than having those areas repainted and you wont have to worry about having the paint matched, being without your vehicle while being painted, and having to repaint again once the chips start accumulating.

I really suggest you do some research before you get on here making ridiculous statements thats are based on uneducated opinion... not facts. A google search will bring up numerous videos, test results, and customer comments backing up how well the film holds up.

Well if it stops chips from rocks that are hitting the car at the speed of light why dont they just make the final clear coat this stuff from the factory. LOL

But really what makes it so strong as to not allow a chip from a sharp rock colliding at a couple hundred miles per hour. I cant watch the video right now as youtube is blocked at my work place so I will watch it tonight.
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Well if it stops chips from rocks that are hitting the car at the speed of light why dont they just make the final clear coat this stuff from the factory. LOL.
haha. this reminds me of the scene from the movie "iglourious basterds" where brad pitt says a “Deal is too good to be true,” well it probably is"
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haha. this reminds me of the scene from the movie "iglourious basterds" where brad pitt says a “Deal is too good to be true,” well it probably is"
Mick its not like this stuff just came out. 20 years on the market and still going... plus the military still uses it on their aircraft and helicopter rotors. So its been tested and works. The reason why you probably dont know much about it is because normally it is applied to high end cars due to the cost. Sure there is a market out there for lower end vehicles but most people that buy a 20-30k dollar car arent going to spend another 800 to protect it.

Like I said, a Google search will provide you with years of testing results, data, and customer reviews on the product. if your interested do a search.
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HTP, do you know any good places in San Antonio that install these clear bra paint protection?

Right now I'm looking at here:
http://www.xpel.com/products/dealers...mit=Search+%BB

Also, what other parts are important to protect other than the bumper and hood?
Is covering the roof of the car worth it even though you are limited in money?
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Done anyone have any recomendations for an installer in Southwest Florida?
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Well if it stops chips from rocks that are hitting the car at the speed of light why dont they just make the final clear coat this stuff from the factory. LOL

But really what makes it so strong as to not allow a chip from a sharp rock colliding at a couple hundred miles per hour. I cant watch the video right now as youtube is blocked at my work place so I will watch it tonight.
It is what the material is made out of. It absorbds the energy of the rock and spreads the impact out over the surface. Its very durable from punctures... but if the rock is large enough it can go through the film along with the panel. Its not bulletproof but will stop rocks from damaging your paint. This stuff has been on the market for about 20 years. So if it didnt work it would not still be around.

Auto manufacturers do not provide this from the factory because it takes a long time to install. Some cars do come with it in areas already... Porsches in front of the rear wheels, Ford GTs along the rocker panels... just to name a few. But those areas are simple flat areas that do not take any skill or time to apply the film. A full bumper is much different and takes much more time. Then there is the cost for applying it.
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You know normally I do not reply to posts where the individual is clueless as to what they are talking about, but this time I need to step in an correct this statement. Paint protection film was designed for millitary use on aircraft. It will EASILY stop a stone at 50 mph from reaching the paint. In fact, here is a video that shows rocks being projected at speeds of well over 100mph at a painted steel plate. Watch it and learn something. Notice no tearing in the film and no damage to the paint on the protected surfaces.

YouTube - 3M Gravelometer

I personally have had clients take their car down to the Texas Mile where they are runnning at speeds over 200mph and they are not getting any damage on their vehicle. A lot of my customers track their vehicles (at speeds I am sure are over 50mph) and guess what??? No rock chips. Yes you can potentially get a rock chip where you dont have film... but you typically tend to cover areas where you get the most damage. If that isnt enough, well get the entire hood, entire fenders, bumper, rocker panels, rear wheel impact areas wrapped and dont worry about it. The install will cost much less than having those areas repainted and you wont have to worry about having the paint matched, being without your vehicle while being painted, and having to repaint again once the chips start accumulating.

I really suggest you do some research before you get on here making ridiculous statements thats are based on uneducated opinion... not facts. A google search will bring up numerous videos, test results, and customer comments backing up how well the film holds up.
I'm clueless? That's a bold statement - but since I'm so ignorant would you care to back that up with a guarantee? I'm always a little leary about people who have a financial intrest posting on a hobbiest web page. I'm sure if this is the miracle film you claim it is you would never need to pay out a claim. Giving a guarantee would only bring you more business and make you even more money since you should never have to pay out. So are you willing to personally back up your statement and tell me that you'll pay for any rock damage under any 3M film I get applied on my car?
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I'm clueless? That's a bold statement - but since I'm so ignorant would you care to back that up with a guarantee? I'm always a little leary about people who have a financial intrest posting on a hobbiest web page. I'm sure if this is the miracle film you claim it is you would never need to pay out a claim. Giving a guarantee would only bring you more business and make you even more money since you should never have to pay out. So are you willing to personally back up your statement and tell me that you'll pay for any rock damage under any 3M film I get applied on my car?
That is ridiculous to even post that. You are in Canada and I am in Texas. Like I am going to repair your paint damage if you get any rock chips. I wont even have any clue on wether you actually get film installed in the first place... and wouldnt put it past you to damage your own bumper just to make a claim. Look you need to read my posts above before making another post. Your only making yourself look bad here. Film has been around for about 20 years... and if it didnt work people wouldnt still be buying it. DO SOME RESEARCH. Its very simple. Type the word "clear bra" into Google and read up on a topic before you go making claims.

And to be honest I could care less wehter you get it or not. I have no financial gain to make from you... so go ahead and live with rock chips. I will sleep well tonight either way. But if you want to learn a little something and keep your car looking new, then join these discussions ask good questions and listen... not make comments on something you do not have a clue about.
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That is ridiculous to even post that. You are in Canada and I am in Texas. Like I am going to repair your paint damage if you get any rock chips. I wont even have any clue on whether you actually get film installed in the first place... and wouldn't put it past you to damage your own bumper just to make a claim. Look you need to read my posts above before making another post. Your only making yourself look bad here. Film has been around for about 20 years... and if it didn't work people wouldn't still be buying it. DO SOME RESEARCH. Its very simple. Type the word "clear bra" into Google and read up on a topic before you go making claims.

And to be honest I could care less wehter you get it or not. I have no financial gain to make from you... so go ahead and live with rock chips. I will sleep well tonight either way. But if you want to learn a little something and keep your car looking new, then join these discussions ask good questions and listen... not make comments on something you do not have a clue about.
Of course its ridiculous to expect any kind of warranty that this film will STOP rock chips on your car because it can't. It is very good at protecting your car and PREVENTING rock chips but it will not stop them. I know this and so do you which is exactly why it is ridiculous to expect any kind of warranty that states this will stop rock chips or dings. Anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of physics or even a little insight to the forces of nature will know that the film is not capable of stopping all force exerted on the front of the film from being transfered to the back of the film. If it did everyone would be using this for body Armour instead of Kevlar. That is precisely my point which you completely missed.

Now for you to state that I would intentionally damage my own bumper is nothing short of offensive. I am an honest person and I work diligently to be honest. For you to make such an unfounded statement is plain rude. Do you always treat strangers this way or just under the veil of anonymity of the Internet? You would think with the economy the way it is a professional business man would conduct themselves with some form of professionalism. It is good for everyone here in the state of Texas to see how you conduct yourself before they are accused by you of intentionally damaging the film if they have a problem with your product.

So once again to recap - this film will not stop rock chips. I think its important for the people on the forum doing research to know this. If they think that by putting the film on they will not have any chips or dings from flying rocks and spend $1000+ they will be sorely disappointed to possibly find the odd chip or ding. It is also important to know that the film is extremely resilient and will prevent the majority of rock chips from damaging your car. I highly recommend it. I'm happy with it on my 370Z and I'll be putting it on my 240Z when I repaint the air dam and my 280ZX when it's repainted.

Oh and here's some proof that it doesn't STOP rock damage.... (there were three rock chips before the clear bra was applied but I did not take pictures of those chips regardless of what you may infer HTP AutoWorks).





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Enough texts and more pictures with the clear bra applied and months/years of driving, people.

Come on - show us the pictures!
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Enough texts and more pictures with the clear bra applied and months/years of driving, people.

Come on - show us the pictures!
There is nothing to show, it looks like a brand new bumper and you cannot see any bra lines, as the installer was top notch
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I know I have asked this before but it seems to get unanswered every time I ask. So here goes again !

Other than the hood and the bumper, what other places should be well protected? Are the rear fenders need to be protected? etc. etc. etc.
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