Opinions on ground kits

ricky bobby · 01-29-2010, 11:35 PM

cool Freddy was my hero

frost · 01-29-2010, 11:23 PM

van wilder, office space, there's something about mary, spaceballs, baseketball, happy gilmore = all awesome comedies.

Josh@STILLEN · 01-29-2010, 11:41 PM

A grounding kit improves the electrical connections within specific points inside the engine bay. It improves the ground (hence grounding kit) connection at key points, and with the increasing complexity with ECU's and TCM's.. increasingly important to ensure everything is grounded properly.

On a brand new or newish vehicle, a typical grounding kit will in all likelihood not have a huge impact on horsepower, as everything is working as it should. But with every vehicle manufacturer, cost in every department is looked at and scrutinized, and wiring is especially typical in cost-cutting measures.

As the vehicle gets older, horsepower WILL be lost due to these connections, and a grounding kit will help prevent that, and bring power back to older vehicles once installed. This can happen within 1-2 years.. depending on condition, environment, etc.

That being said, for automatic transmission guys, there is an immediate improvement no matter what age of the vehicle, resulting in slightly sharper shifts, and increased transmission shift response time, and should be a no brainer when considering upgrades..

frost · 01-29-2010, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

A grounding kit improves the electrical connections within specific points inside the engine bay. It improves the ground (hence grounding kit) connection at key points, and with the increasing complexity with ECU's and TCM's.. increasingly important to ensure everything is grounded properly.

On a brand new or newish vehicle, a typical grounding kit will in all likelihood not have a huge impact on horsepower, as everything is working as it should. But with every vehicle manufacturer, cost in every department is looked at and scrutinized, and wiring is especially typical in cost-cutting measures.

As the vehicle gets older, horsepower WILL be lost due to these connections, and a grounding kit will help prevent that, and bring power back to older vehicles once installed. This can happen within 1-2 years.. depending on condition, environment, etc.

That being said, for automatic transmission guys, there is an immediate improvement no matter what age of the vehicle, resulting in slightly sharper shifts, and increased transmission shift response time, and should be a no brainer when considering upgrades..

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Originally Posted by frost

I googled this, and I've been through probably 8 message boards at this point, no one has had any gains, and no one is recommending purchasing one except the people who sell them.

Just sayin' :x

01-29-2010, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

A grounding kit improves the electrical connections within specific points inside the engine bay. It improves the ground (hence grounding kit) connection at key points, and with the increasing complexity with ECU's and TCM's.. increasingly important to ensure everything is grounded properly.

On a brand new or newish vehicle, a typical grounding kit will in all likelihood not have a huge impact on horsepower, as everything is working as it should. But with every vehicle manufacturer, cost in every department is looked at and scrutinized, and wiring is especially typical in cost-cutting measures.

As the vehicle gets older, horsepower WILL be lost due to these connections, and a grounding kit will help prevent that, and bring power back to older vehicles once installed. This can happen within 1-2 years.. depending on condition, environment, etc.

That being said, for automatic transmission guys, there is an immediate improvement no matter what age of the vehicle, resulting in slightly sharper shifts, and increased transmission shift response time, and should be a no brainer when considering upgrades..

FINALLY a company who is truly honest about their products. You have no idea how many companies I've seen out there post up some BS dyno numbers out of crap parts.

Josh@STILLEN · 01-30-2010, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

FINALLY a company who is truly honest about their products. You have no idea how many companies I've seen out there post up some BS dyno numbers out of crap parts.

I would really hope that assumption is never applied to STILLEN.. we were mocked up and down the street with our Gen 3 Intake dyno numbers, our 370Z exhaust.. and all were proven via independent testing.

If it sucks, we definitely have no intention on releasing it.. we'll keep doing R&D or scrap it.

There are hundreds of products over the last 25 years that we didn't release, due to it not meeting the standards of STILLEN, and ultimately Steve Millen himself.

.

SophiaZ · 01-29-2010, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

A grounding kit improves the electrical connections within specific points inside the engine bay. It improves the ground (hence grounding kit) connection at key points, and with the increasing complexity with ECU's and TCM's.. increasingly important to ensure everything is grounded properly.

On a brand new or newish vehicle, a typical grounding kit will in all likelihood not have a huge impact on horsepower, as everything is working as it should. But with every vehicle manufacturer, cost in every department is looked at and scrutinized, and wiring is especially typical in cost-cutting measures.

As the vehicle gets older, horsepower WILL be lost due to these connections, and a grounding kit will help prevent that, and bring power back to older vehicles once installed. This can happen within 1-2 years.. depending on condition, environment, etc.

That being said, for automatic transmission guys, there is an immediate improvement no matter what age of the vehicle, resulting in slightly sharper shifts, and increased transmission shift response time, and should be a no brainer when considering upgrades..

And plain old horror...and comedy..... like Jim Carey vs Jason...not a big Freddy fan. He's #2 tho. he's more funny than scary..and yea it's ashame Robert England is done with them films

I'm a bigger jason fan tho

ricky bobby · 01-29-2010, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SophiaZ

And plain old horror...and comedy..... like Jim Carey vs Jason...not a big Freddy fan. He's #2 tho. he's more funny than scary..and yea it's ashame Robert England is done with them films

I'm a bigger jason fan tho

dumb and dumber, supertroopers cuz its work related, liar liar, the exorcist and omen cuz i was a kid when i first saw them

dszombiex · 01-30-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

A grounding kit improves the electrical connections within specific points inside the engine bay. It improves the ground (hence grounding kit) connection at key points, and with the increasing complexity with ECU's and TCM's.. increasingly important to ensure everything is grounded properly.

On a brand new or newish vehicle, a typical grounding kit will in all likelihood not have a huge impact on horsepower, as everything is working as it should. But with every vehicle manufacturer, cost in every department is looked at and scrutinized, and wiring is especially typical in cost-cutting measures.

As the vehicle gets older, horsepower WILL be lost due to these connections, and a grounding kit will help prevent that, and bring power back to older vehicles once installed. This can happen within 1-2 years.. depending on condition, environment, etc.

That being said, for automatic transmission guys, there is an immediate improvement no matter what age of the vehicle, resulting in slightly sharper shifts, and increased transmission shift response time, and should be a no brainer when considering upgrades..

I respectfully beg to differ. I've a 7AT and a grounding kit did absolutely nothing.

dad · 01-30-2010, 02:11 PM

Grounding kits was voted, "The Worst Useless Mod"!
Stop and ask your self, "Why didn't Nissan put these/this on the Z's or the Nismo's"?

frost · 01-30-2010, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dad

Grounding kits was voted, "The Worst Useless Mod"!
Stop and ask your self, "Why didn't Nissan put these/this on the Z's or the Nismo's"?

Oh yeah? On this thread?

dad · 01-30-2010, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

Oh yeah? On this thread?

350z Tech

370Zsteve · 01-30-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dszombiex

I respectfully beg to differ. I've a 7AT and a grounding kit did absolutely nothing.

Just goes to show, the butt dyno works both ways.

SophiaZ · 01-29-2010, 11:50 PM

Ok..so the grounding kit WONT improve HP, but it will improve the car as it ages.....so it's not a total lie from the other companies. But it's already stated that the kit improves electronics.

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01-29-2010, 11:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
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01-29-2010, 11:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
Josh@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 1,197 Drives: 2004 G35 Coupe 6MT Rep Power: 534	A grounding kit improves the electrical connections within specific points inside the engine bay. It improves the ground (hence grounding kit) connection at key points, and with the increasing complexity with ECU's and TCM's.. increasingly important to ensure everything is grounded properly. On a brand new or newish vehicle, a typical grounding kit will in all likelihood not have a huge impact on horsepower, as everything is working as it should. But with every vehicle manufacturer, cost in every department is looked at and scrutinized, and wiring is especially typical in cost-cutting measures. As the vehicle gets older, horsepower WILL be lost due to these connections, and a grounding kit will help prevent that, and bring power back to older vehicles once installed. This can happen within 1-2 years.. depending on condition, environment, etc. That being said, for automatic transmission guys, there is an immediate improvement no matter what age of the vehicle, resulting in slightly sharper shifts, and increased transmission shift response time, and should be a no brainer when considering upgrades..

01-30-2010, 02:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
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01-29-2010, 11:50 PM	#14 (permalink)
SophiaZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,463 Drives: 2020 50th anniv 7AT Rep Power: 6733	Ok..so the grounding kit WONT improve HP, but it will improve the car as it ages.....so it's not a total lie from the other companies. But it's already stated that the kit improves electronics.