Opinions on ground kits

ricky bobby · 01-30-2010, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SophiaZ

That movie is dumb but it makes me laugh, somehow! haha
" I like your bangs" LOL

I'ma change the subject real quick...what's everyone's favorite comedy and horror movie?!!
Mine is -How to lose a guy in 10 days/ All Friday the 13th's

LOL soooooooooooo do you mean horror thats funny or comedy and/or horror

frost · 01-30-2010, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ricky bobby

LOL soooooooooooo do you mean horror thats funny or comedy and/or horror

nightmare on elm street is funner than Friday the 13th. By the way, did you hear they are making a new nightmare on elm street with freddy being played by the guy from watchmen?

ricky bobby · 01-30-2010, 12:35 AM

cool Freddy was my hero

01-30-2010, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SophiaZ

Eh..whats 2hp? I have added on 30+hp so if I lose, I lose...but I doubt it..its a different model Z. Won't hurt to try, right? Unless all my electronics blow haha..not funny *grin*

Have you dynoed it for the 30+? If not I wouldnt make claims

Josh@STILLEN · 01-30-2010, 12:41 AM

A grounding kit improves the electrical connections within specific points inside the engine bay. It improves the ground (hence grounding kit) connection at key points, and with the increasing complexity with ECU's and TCM's.. increasingly important to ensure everything is grounded properly.

On a brand new or newish vehicle, a typical grounding kit will in all likelihood not have a huge impact on horsepower, as everything is working as it should. But with every vehicle manufacturer, cost in every department is looked at and scrutinized, and wiring is especially typical in cost-cutting measures.

As the vehicle gets older, horsepower WILL be lost due to these connections, and a grounding kit will help prevent that, and bring power back to older vehicles once installed. This can happen within 1-2 years.. depending on condition, environment, etc.

That being said, for automatic transmission guys, there is an immediate improvement no matter what age of the vehicle, resulting in slightly sharper shifts, and increased transmission shift response time, and should be a no brainer when considering upgrades..

frost · 01-30-2010, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

A grounding kit improves the electrical connections within specific points inside the engine bay. It improves the ground (hence grounding kit) connection at key points, and with the increasing complexity with ECU's and TCM's.. increasingly important to ensure everything is grounded properly.

On a brand new or newish vehicle, a typical grounding kit will in all likelihood not have a huge impact on horsepower, as everything is working as it should. But with every vehicle manufacturer, cost in every department is looked at and scrutinized, and wiring is especially typical in cost-cutting measures.

As the vehicle gets older, horsepower WILL be lost due to these connections, and a grounding kit will help prevent that, and bring power back to older vehicles once installed. This can happen within 1-2 years.. depending on condition, environment, etc.

That being said, for automatic transmission guys, there is an immediate improvement no matter what age of the vehicle, resulting in slightly sharper shifts, and increased transmission shift response time, and should be a no brainer when considering upgrades..

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Originally Posted by frost

I googled this, and I've been through probably 8 message boards at this point, no one has had any gains, and no one is recommending purchasing one except the people who sell them.

Just sayin' :x

01-30-2010, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

A grounding kit improves the electrical connections within specific points inside the engine bay. It improves the ground (hence grounding kit) connection at key points, and with the increasing complexity with ECU's and TCM's.. increasingly important to ensure everything is grounded properly.

On a brand new or newish vehicle, a typical grounding kit will in all likelihood not have a huge impact on horsepower, as everything is working as it should. But with every vehicle manufacturer, cost in every department is looked at and scrutinized, and wiring is especially typical in cost-cutting measures.

As the vehicle gets older, horsepower WILL be lost due to these connections, and a grounding kit will help prevent that, and bring power back to older vehicles once installed. This can happen within 1-2 years.. depending on condition, environment, etc.

That being said, for automatic transmission guys, there is an immediate improvement no matter what age of the vehicle, resulting in slightly sharper shifts, and increased transmission shift response time, and should be a no brainer when considering upgrades..

FINALLY a company who is truly honest about their products. You have no idea how many companies I've seen out there post up some BS dyno numbers out of crap parts.

SophiaZ · 01-30-2010, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

A grounding kit improves the electrical connections within specific points inside the engine bay. It improves the ground (hence grounding kit) connection at key points, and with the increasing complexity with ECU's and TCM's.. increasingly important to ensure everything is grounded properly.

On a brand new or newish vehicle, a typical grounding kit will in all likelihood not have a huge impact on horsepower, as everything is working as it should. But with every vehicle manufacturer, cost in every department is looked at and scrutinized, and wiring is especially typical in cost-cutting measures.

As the vehicle gets older, horsepower WILL be lost due to these connections, and a grounding kit will help prevent that, and bring power back to older vehicles once installed. This can happen within 1-2 years.. depending on condition, environment, etc.

That being said, for automatic transmission guys, there is an immediate improvement no matter what age of the vehicle, resulting in slightly sharper shifts, and increased transmission shift response time, and should be a no brainer when considering upgrades..

And plain old horror...and comedy..... like Jim Carey vs Jason...not a big Freddy fan. He's #2 tho. he's more funny than scary..and yea it's ashame Robert England is done with them films

I'm a bigger jason fan tho

SophiaZ · 01-30-2010, 12:50 AM

Ok..so the grounding kit WONT improve HP, but it will improve the car as it ages.....so it's not a total lie from the other companies. But it's already stated that the kit improves electronics.

ricky bobby · 01-30-2010, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SophiaZ

And plain old horror...and comedy..... like Jim Carey vs Jason...not a big Freddy fan. He's #2 tho. he's more funny than scary..and yea it's ashame Robert England is done with them films

I'm a bigger jason fan tho

dumb and dumber, supertroopers cuz its work related, liar liar, the exorcist and omen cuz i was a kid when i first saw them

Josh@STILLEN · 01-30-2010, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by frost

I googled this, and I've been through probably 8 message boards at this point, no one has had any gains, and no one is recommending purchasing one except the people who sell them.

You can check out the current issue of DSPORT where they installed a grounding kit on an '06 G35 that's immaculately maintained (one of the staff) and put I believe 1.2hp to the wheels on the dyno, after an intake and exhaust.

This isn't a supercharger, but depending on the vehicle, and condition of the electrical system, can have benefits. We've seen 10hp on the dyno with 300ZX's.

And if you look at AT guys, even more benefits in improved transmission function.

.

frost · 01-30-2010, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

You can check out the current issue of DSPORT where they installed a grounding kit on an '06 G35 that's immaculately maintained (one of the staff) and put I believe 1.2hp to the wheels on the dyno, after an intake and exhaust.

This isn't a supercharger, but depending on the vehicle, and condition of the electrical system, can have benefits. We've seen 10hp on the dyno with 300ZX's.

And if you look at AT guys, even more benefits in improved transmission function.

.

Appreciate knowing it won't really add much now, but may add some down the road.

Josh@STILLEN · 01-30-2010, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

FINALLY a company who is truly honest about their products. You have no idea how many companies I've seen out there post up some BS dyno numbers out of crap parts.

I would really hope that assumption is never applied to STILLEN.. we were mocked up and down the street with our Gen 3 Intake dyno numbers, our 370Z exhaust.. and all were proven via independent testing.

If it sucks, we definitely have no intention on releasing it.. we'll keep doing R&D or scrap it.

There are hundreds of products over the last 25 years that we didn't release, due to it not meeting the standards of STILLEN, and ultimately Steve Millen himself.

.

6MT · 01-30-2010, 12:09 PM

As I said before....

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Originally Posted by 6mt

getting back to your question.... You will notice better throttle response with the gounding kit. Beyond that, you probably won't notice much else.

Edit: Btw, i got mine for basically free. I used stillen bucks back when they had their father's day promo. (i earned them with the purchase of my exhaust and intakes and sways.)

PapoZalsa · 01-30-2010, 01:08 PM

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01-30-2010, 12:41 AM	#65 (permalink)
Josh@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 1,197 Drives: 2004 G35 Coupe 6MT Rep Power: 534	A grounding kit improves the electrical connections within specific points inside the engine bay. It improves the ground (hence grounding kit) connection at key points, and with the increasing complexity with ECU's and TCM's.. increasingly important to ensure everything is grounded properly. On a brand new or newish vehicle, a typical grounding kit will in all likelihood not have a huge impact on horsepower, as everything is working as it should. But with every vehicle manufacturer, cost in every department is looked at and scrutinized, and wiring is especially typical in cost-cutting measures. As the vehicle gets older, horsepower WILL be lost due to these connections, and a grounding kit will help prevent that, and bring power back to older vehicles once installed. This can happen within 1-2 years.. depending on condition, environment, etc. That being said, for automatic transmission guys, there is an immediate improvement no matter what age of the vehicle, resulting in slightly sharper shifts, and increased transmission shift response time, and should be a no brainer when considering upgrades..

01-30-2010, 12:50 AM	#69 (permalink)
SophiaZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: South Jersey Posts: 1,463 Drives: 2020 50th anniv 7AT Rep Power: 6733	Ok..so the grounding kit WONT improve HP, but it will improve the car as it ages.....so it's not a total lie from the other companies. But it's already stated that the kit improves electronics.