Convince me to get a Nismo 370z.

xfrgtr · 01-31-2010, 06:18 AM

Tsukuba, Japan

Nissan Nismo 370Z 1:06.643
Nissan Nismo 350Z 1:06.663
Nissan 370Z 1:06.669

Tsukuba lap records - FastestLaps.com

frost · 01-31-2010, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z

A decade from now the factory Nismo will have more residual value than a standard Z. It's a unique factory model.

Anyone buying a mass produced car hoping for any kind of resale value ... well, you know.

Portlander · 01-31-2010, 12:22 PM

Though the Nismo has 350 HP, it also weights 68 more pounds than a Base with the Sport Package. That just about negates the 18 HP advantage between the two vehicles which should make them pretty close to dead even in straight line acceleration.

frost · 01-31-2010, 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Portlander

Though the Nismo has 350 HP, it also weights 68 more pounds than a Base with the Sport Package. That just about negates the 18 HP advantage between the two vehicles which should make them pretty close to dead even in straight line acceleration.

Where did you pull the weights from?

motoextreme · 01-31-2010, 12:43 PM

I'm not sure how that could be. I do know it has a few extra braces and such here and there but I'd have to think its a wash as the seats must be lighter then the stock ones and with a very cheesy stereo with no sub, no amp etc it has to help a bit too.

Suppose the wheels and exhaust could count against it...

theDreamer · 01-31-2010, 12:47 PM

Per Nissan's website the Nismo weights 3300 and the base Z weights 3232 which is 68 pounds.

frost · 01-31-2010, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Per Nissan's website the Nismo weights 3300 and the base Z weights 3232 which is 68 pounds.

Glad it was the nissan website and not some post somewhere

theDreamer · 01-31-2010, 12:54 PM

I thought it was less so I checked, but still not sure where the added weight really comes in. The body kit?

motoextreme · 01-31-2010, 12:56 PM

I probably added weight with all the paint. HAHAAHA

Regardless of the weight, numbered ANYTHING typically helps on resale but lets face it, may recover 20-30% of the upcharge (if that).

I still think there's a little too much focus on weight. If we're talking hundreds upon hundreds of lbs then fine but 60 or so? That wouldnt of stopped me, I dig it either way but if I had it to do over again I probably would of bought the more comfortable touring model and modded that one up. All good though

theDreamer · 01-31-2010, 12:59 PM

Exactly, if it was 3200 for the base and 3500 for the Nismo there would be problems. The one thing I wish they carried over from the 350z Nismo was the seemed welding.

motoextreme · 01-31-2010, 01:01 PM

I'm still a little new to the import scene. Seamed welding? Can you give me the 2 second version? Curious to how that helped and why they didnt carry it over??

frost · 01-31-2010, 01:03 PM

Seam welding to stiffen the chassis:

Though the body of the 2007 Nissan Nismo 350Z was seam-welded like that of a racing car, the 370's only additional structural enhancement is a different front strut-tower brace. "This car's stock body is stiff enough to meet the additional demands placed on it by the Nismo hardware," says Nathaniel Mason, senior manager of product planning in Nissan's Specialty Vehicles division.

Portlander · 01-31-2010, 01:24 PM

68 pounds does not seem like much, but at the track a tenth of a second can make a difference between winning and losing. Horsepower to weight ratio is important, but it still comes down to driver skill most of the time.

My approach to the Base/Sport over the Nismo reminds me of when I purchased a 5.0 Mustang in the late 80's. I chose the lighter, sleeper looking LX version over the heavier, more aggressive looking GT. Both cars were great drag strip cars and the competitive banter between the two camps were always fun.

And here we are over twenty years later with a similar situation. I have total respect for all 370Z versions and their owners, unless you have a color other than Pearl White and chose a CBE other than Stillen!

snaggeltooth · 01-31-2010, 02:18 PM

I have a question that kinda close to this so here it goes .. A 350Z NISMO vs a 370 base with Sport package .. My only question is if I buy a used NISMO do you think it has been drove harder than a regular Z ..

SMcK23 · 01-31-2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by snaggeltooth

I have a question that kinda close to this so here it goes .. A 350Z NISMO vs a 370 base with Sport package .. My only question is if I buy a used NISMO do you think it has been drove harder than a regular Z ..

Absolutely, I think when you buy a NISMO yoiu are definitely going to drive it hard...that is why I wouldn't buy one used..

01-31-2010, 12:22 PM	#78 (permalink)
Portlander Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 69 Drives: 10 370Z PW 6MT Sport Rep Power: 16	Though the Nismo has 350 HP, it also weights 68 more pounds than a Base with the Sport Package. That just about negates the 18 HP advantage between the two vehicles which should make them pretty close to dead even in straight line acceleration. __________________ Life is a highway!

01-31-2010, 12:43 PM	#80 (permalink)
motoextreme Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 971 Drives: Nismo NO MODS! Rep Power: 369	I'm not sure how that could be. I do know it has a few extra braces and such here and there but I'd have to think its a wash as the seats must be lighter then the stock ones and with a very cheesy stereo with no sub, no amp etc it has to help a bit too. Suppose the wheels and exhaust could count against it... __________________ Fast Intensions / NST / Mishimoto / Alpine / JDM / Volk / Brembo / Rotora / Seibon / Stillen / Password: JDM / KW / MR Works / RAW / Sun Auto / B&M / Amplified Motorsports

01-31-2010, 12:47 PM	#81 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Per Nissan's website the Nismo weights 3300 and the base Z weights 3232 which is 68 pounds. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

01-31-2010, 12:54 PM	#83 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	I thought it was less so I checked, but still not sure where the added weight really comes in. The body kit? __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

01-31-2010, 12:56 PM	#84 (permalink)
motoextreme Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 971 Drives: Nismo NO MODS! Rep Power: 369	I probably added weight with all the paint. HAHAAHA Regardless of the weight, numbered ANYTHING typically helps on resale but lets face it, may recover 20-30% of the upcharge (if that). I still think there's a little too much focus on weight. If we're talking hundreds upon hundreds of lbs then fine but 60 or so? That wouldnt of stopped me, I dig it either way but if I had it to do over again I probably would of bought the more comfortable touring model and modded that one up. All good though __________________ Fast Intensions / NST / Mishimoto / Alpine / JDM / Volk / Brembo / Rotora / Seibon / Stillen / Password: JDM / KW / MR Works / RAW / Sun Auto / B&M / Amplified Motorsports

01-31-2010, 06:18 AM	#76 (permalink)
xfrgtr Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: miami,fl Posts: 171 Drives: 09' 370z nismo Rep Power: 16	Tsukuba, Japan Nissan Nismo 370Z 1:06.643 Nissan Nismo 350Z 1:06.663 Nissan 370Z 1:06.669 Tsukuba lap records - FastestLaps.com

01-31-2010, 12:59 PM	#85 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Exactly, if it was 3200 for the base and 3500 for the Nismo there would be problems. The one thing I wish they carried over from the 350z Nismo was the seemed welding. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

01-31-2010, 01:01 PM	#86 (permalink)
motoextreme Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 971 Drives: Nismo NO MODS! Rep Power: 369	I'm still a little new to the import scene. Seamed welding? Can you give me the 2 second version? Curious to how that helped and why they didnt carry it over?? __________________ Fast Intensions / NST / Mishimoto / Alpine / JDM / Volk / Brembo / Rotora / Seibon / Stillen / Password: JDM / KW / MR Works / RAW / Sun Auto / B&M / Amplified Motorsports

01-31-2010, 01:03 PM	#87 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	Seam welding to stiffen the chassis: Though the body of the 2007 Nissan Nismo 350Z was seam-welded like that of a racing car, the 370's only additional structural enhancement is a different front strut-tower brace. "This car's stock body is stiff enough to meet the additional demands placed on it by the Nismo hardware," says Nathaniel Mason, senior manager of product planning in Nissan's Specialty Vehicles division.

01-31-2010, 01:24 PM	#88 (permalink)
Portlander Base Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 69 Drives: 10 370Z PW 6MT Sport Rep Power: 16	68 pounds does not seem like much, but at the track a tenth of a second can make a difference between winning and losing. Horsepower to weight ratio is important, but it still comes down to driver skill most of the time. My approach to the Base/Sport over the Nismo reminds me of when I purchased a 5.0 Mustang in the late 80's. I chose the lighter, sleeper looking LX version over the heavier, more aggressive looking GT. Both cars were great drag strip cars and the competitive banter between the two camps were always fun. And here we are over twenty years later with a similar situation. I have total respect for all 370Z versions and their owners, unless you have a color other than Pearl White and chose a CBE other than Stillen! __________________ Life is a highway!

01-31-2010, 02:18 PM	#89 (permalink)
snaggeltooth Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 115 Drives: 05 Black GTO Rep Power: 16	I have a question that kinda close to this so here it goes .. A 350Z NISMO vs a 370 base with Sport package .. My only question is if I buy a used NISMO do you think it has been drove harder than a regular Z ..

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