My experience with Pinebelt Nissan in Toms River...Very Professional lol

VCuomo · 01-26-2010, 10:28 PM

You can't really blame the salesman - he's just following his dealership's policies on negotiating prices.

When I bought my Z I went to a dealer about 5 miles from where I work, test drove a car, then told them exactly what options and color I wanted, and also told them that I was only willing to pay invoice (and I even gave them that price, quoted straight from edmunds.com). Then I asked them if they would do the deal. The sales dude says "I gotta go get my General Manager.", then the GM comes over, repeats the MSRP price (which I had already given to them too). I said "No, will you do the deal at invoice?" Then he asks "Are you ready to sign right now?" I said "No, I'm on my lunch hour, but if you are willing to do the deal at invoice and you can get the exact car I want, I'll be back at 7pm when I get off from work." The conversation went back and forth like that for a few more minutes, but long story short is he wouldn't say if he would or wouldn't do the deal, so I left.

The next day I found a dealer 30 miles from work that I contacted over the internet, then talked to the sales guy over the phone and, after getting approval from his GM, he said he'd do the deal I wanted - and I had never even set foot in his showroom. Plus he had the exact car I wanted in his inventory. Guess where I bought my car from?

Eventually these car dealerships that want to do business like they did back in 1972 are going to go broke and be replaced by dealers like the one I bought from. The buying public is way more informed today, thanks to the internet, than ever. The old-school hardball tactics just aren't going to work very well much longer (and I'm 50+, not a young guy who grew up with the internet).

frost · 01-26-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo

You can't really blame the salesman - he's just following his dealership's policies on negotiating prices.

Is this his personal choice, or the dealer policy? Would the dealers here like to chime in on this question?

OldGuy · 01-26-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by VCuomo

You can't really blame the salesman - he's just following his dealership's policies on negotiating prices.

When I bought my Z I went to a dealer about 5 miles from where I work, test drove a car, then told them exactly what options and color I wanted, and also told them that I was only willing to pay invoice (and I even gave them that price, quoted straight from edmunds.com). Then I asked them if they would do the deal. The sales dude says "I gotta go get my General Manager.", then the GM comes over, repeats the MSRP price (which I had already given to them too). I said "No, will you do the deal at invoice?" Then he asks "Are you ready to sign right now?" I said "No, I'm on my lunch hour, but if you are willing to do the deal at invoice and you can get the exact car I want, I'll be back at 7pm when I get off from work." The conversation went back and forth like that for a few more minutes, but long story short is he wouldn't say if he would or wouldn't do the deal, so I left.

The next day I found a dealer 30 miles from work that I contacted over the internet, then talked to the sales guy over the phone and, after getting approval from his GM, he said he'd do the deal I wanted - and I had never even set foot in his showroom. Plus he had the exact car I wanted in his inventory. Guess where I bought my car from?

Eventually these car dealerships that want to do business like they did back in 1972 are going to go broke and be replaced by dealers like the one I bought from. The buying public is way more informed today, thanks to the internet, than ever. The old-school hardball tactics just aren't going to work very well much longer (and I'm 50+, not a young guy who grew up with the internet).

...carbon copy of my very mutually respectful buying experience described in my previous post. This is business 2010 style.

Pushing_Tin · 01-27-2010, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by nextbesthing

bottom line is he lost a sale

Yup, personally I'd rather make a guaranteed $400 vs a possible $800.

Modshack · 01-27-2010, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 6MT

The salesman showed extreme patience with this "dude".

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Originally Posted by OldGuy

...carbon copy of my very mutually respectful buying experience described in my previous post. This is business 2010 style.

"Mutually Respectful" being the key words here. Being an A$$hole rarely gets the results you desire...

IDZRVIT · 01-27-2010, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by nextbesthing

bottom line is he lost a sale

But had you gone into to that dealer, maybe you would have gotten a great deal! I guess you'll never know!!!

Ruocco · 01-27-2010, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by nextbesthing

Jim Russo: If you buy a car..remember do not drink and drive.
Michael Corona: If you sell a car, don't get too excited and cream your pants

Jim Russo: Good for you..stay in school, like I did for 19 years and get advanced dergrees, save your pennies and so can you.

The bold is the best part. I showed this to a buddy of mine, simply because of that line. Did you actually say that?

The lines I quoted from him were his uber moments filled with fail.

billydsz · 01-27-2010, 11:51 AM

I like the salesman. He showed alot of restraint.

mjd77 · 01-27-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin

With all of the internet shopping people do why would you **** around on pricing like that?

Just to be fair, I have actually found dealerships that refuse to give an internet quote. They want to "show" you the vehicle at the dealership.

Pushing_Tin · 01-27-2010, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mjd77

Just to be fair, I have actually found dealerships that refuse to give an internet quote. They want to "show" you the vehicle at the dealership.

That's fine, but many people have already driven or looked at the vehicle extensively and just want a price, not to be d*cked around by a car salesman.

Modshack · 01-27-2010, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by billydsz

I like the salesman. He showed alot of restraint.

Considerable restraint

nextbesthing · 01-27-2010, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruocco

The bold is the best part. I showed this to a buddy of mine, simply because of that line. Did you actually say that?

The lines I quoted from him were his uber moments filled with fail.

Yea, everyone seems to find that one line the funniest lol. But yes, I didn't add or embellish any part of that conversation.

And don't get me wrong I would never treat a salesman like this unless, they asked for it. All I did was ask for a price, which every other dealership gave me online, and then he asks me If I want to know the MSRP. Really? Like I cant read the number in front of the $

o0javi0o · 01-27-2010, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Some do, some don't. My conversation was faster:

Me: Hi, I test drove one of your Zs a couple of months ago and want to buy the Brilliant Silver one you have on your lot. I'll give you $34,900 for it (sport, touring, splash guards, f+r mats, VIN etch).

Sales Manager: I can't sell it to you for that price.

Me: OK, no problem. Take care.

<10 seconds go by, my phone rings>

Sales Manager: OK, I'll sell it to you.

Me: Great! I'll be down in one hour with a check.

hahaha! nice!

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cab83_750 · 01-27-2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Considerable restraint

+1

mjd77 · 01-28-2010, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pushing_Tin

That's fine, but many people have already driven or looked at the vehicle extensively and just want a price, not to be d*cked around by a car salesman.

I know. Any time I am car shopping I am certain I already know a million times more about the car than any salesman would ever know, so I don't even want to deal with them. Although I do have to schedule a test drive for anything I would be interested in, the salesman are more or less a complete waste of my time.

01-26-2010, 10:28 PM	#16 (permalink)
VCuomo Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 887 Drives: BMW 335i Sport Rep Power: 17	You can't really blame the salesman - he's just following his dealership's policies on negotiating prices. When I bought my Z I went to a dealer about 5 miles from where I work, test drove a car, then told them exactly what options and color I wanted, and also told them that I was only willing to pay invoice (and I even gave them that price, quoted straight from edmunds.com). Then I asked them if they would do the deal. The sales dude says "I gotta go get my General Manager.", then the GM comes over, repeats the MSRP price (which I had already given to them too). I said "No, will you do the deal at invoice?" Then he asks "Are you ready to sign right now?" I said "No, I'm on my lunch hour, but if you are willing to do the deal at invoice and you can get the exact car I want, I'll be back at 7pm when I get off from work." The conversation went back and forth like that for a few more minutes, but long story short is he wouldn't say if he would or wouldn't do the deal, so I left. The next day I found a dealer 30 miles from work that I contacted over the internet, then talked to the sales guy over the phone and, after getting approval from his GM, he said he'd do the deal I wanted - and I had never even set foot in his showroom. Plus he had the exact car I wanted in his inventory. Guess where I bought my car from? Eventually these car dealerships that want to do business like they did back in 1972 are going to go broke and be replaced by dealers like the one I bought from. The buying public is way more informed today, thanks to the internet, than ever. The old-school hardball tactics just aren't going to work very well much longer (and I'm 50+, not a young guy who grew up with the internet). Last edited by VCuomo; 01-26-2010 at 10:33 PM.

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01-27-2010, 11:51 AM	#23 (permalink)
billydsz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Bern Posts: 252 Drives: 9 370z SptCp SRd 7AT Rep Power: 16	I like the salesman. He showed alot of restraint.