Very Tempting - 2011 Shelby Mustang GT350
 

2011 Shelby Gt350 — Autoblog

This car looks sweet! I might get to learn to like that ugly backend that Ford came up with on their 2010 model.


And a note to you 3rd-party spoiler "wing" manufacturers: You see that small spoiler on the GT350? Now that is about the max size of a spoiler needed to get the job done instead of those stupid looking monstrous POS you 3rd-party manufacturers keeping putting out for the "Z" that add about 15+ pounds to the car, cause a ton of parastic drag and look absolutely rediculous. Why don't you 3rd-party manufacturing so-called engineers :rolleyes: take a lesson from old man Shelby a true racing legend (instead of you rice-paddy design wannabees) as Shelby has been there and been doing it for the last 45 years....

For 60k, I will pass.

I think the price out of Shelby's garage will be around $47K. If it goes to 60K or more it will be because of the dealers tacking on their $20K surcharge like they did with the Shelby GT500. And that has nothing to do with Shelby or Ford.

2011 Shelby GT350: One Pudgy New Mustang - shelby gt350 - Jalopnik

At $33,995 for the upgrade, the GT350
Base price of a GT is 30k, add on the upgrade and you are at 60k.

That backend really is ugly isnt it? I thought i was the only one that thought so

why does it have a hood scoop? yet nothing really using it? i would expect for 60k to at least get some function, not the 'well its for cooling down the blower'

That was the only thing I thought Ford got wrong with the design of the 2010 Mustang. It looks like some dumb design engineer said to himself...."Well it's a new model year so I guess I have to change something for the sake of changing something". That is sheer stupidity....

this is before dealer's markup :eek:

Well, if I were getting this upgrade I would choose to do it myself, go to Shelby and have them do it.

Well if it is letting air into the bay though that isn't "functional" in the scoop technical sense it is letting in more cooler air.

As for real scoop functionality (i.e. RAM-air) that died when fuel-injection came about in 1986(?). Since there no longer is a traditional carburator to direct the scoop air charge directly into the carburator there is no reason to have a traditionally functional RAM air scoop. But there is every reason to make available more cooler air into the bay which a "hole" scoop design would provide.

The one picture does seem to show that the scoop is open as it appears looking through the scoop opening that the blower pulley can be seen positioned offset to the right.

Yeap, the lights are still way too high, and everything is too round.

It may not be functional in air flow in, but the hood design it looks like is to be style more than function, but also the engine might be sitting up a bit hence the bulge in the hood.

Why not just Twin Turbo a Z. Save some cash.

Seriously...I heard a woman was responsible for that 2010 backend design. Just like the woman that fouled up the 1995-1998 design with the 3 horizontal rear-light slats and goofy looking front-end that had absolutely no tie-back resemblence to the 60's and very early 70's Mustangs.

:iagree:

I was only spoofing the thought of going back to a Mustang. I am quite satisfied with my Z as my fun car...if I were to buy a Shelby GT350 it would be a 24x7 garage queen for most of its life as the GT350 (not the GT500) was the car that really put the Shelby Mustang on the map back in the late 60's.

FTW....What you pointed out is exactly why it is bulged....all the Mustangs having a roots-style blower require having a bulged raised hood.

Go read the article. It states that you buy a Mustang and then deliver it to Shelby afterwards. I'd say a custom Shelby build would be worth every bit of $60K.

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In the F550 maranello, the hood, actually has ducting from the hood scoop to the two little circles there next to the intake boxes, to feed cold air directly to the air boxes.

Why cant something like this be done, and then get some functionality..


I know why Ford put a scoop, as their original Shelby 350's had one.

Good catch!

A woman designed the latest BMW Z4, and did one helluva job especially considering the previous model (male-designed) was hideous.

Agreed. If I bought the new Shelby GT350 it would go under a glass dome in my living room. Divorce would certainly follow, lol.

The entire hood (and scoop) is from Shelby not Ford. There are some 3rd-party hood and intake combo kits available for the various models of Mustang from 1996 to the present. Its cheaper for Ford to make the cars without them and let the 3rd-party manufactureres corner the niche.

roflmao!!

Must be the car model that either hits her design g-spot or not! I guess that draws into question how much "muscle" a Mustang really has...:eek:

Since 2006 the mustang has been all about retro...going back to the same design cues of the old classics. And if you notice the pic of the new 350 next to the old 350, the old 350 has a hood scoop which was probably functional back then. So dont flame! If you have no interest in owning a muscle car then keep your opinion to yourself and dont bash the car. In my opinion, it is a very classy throwback to the original, my dad loves the look of it and is thinking of getting one (yet he thinks all jap cars are ugly) Your either a tuner, or a muscle guy, or a lil bit of both. If your a tuner then dont post useless threads on here bashing the mustang. Because you know damn right that if nissan offered a 30k package for the z that included a very well designed widebody kit, with custom interior, a twin turbo charger, fast intetions exhaust, etc. you would want it SO bad. Look at the nismo 8k more for a body kit, red stiching, $300 sway bars, and a tune that boosts it up 18 CRANK hp, oh yea and red paint on the engine cover.

Come on guys!! Lets be cylinder blind and appreciate the entire auto enthusiast community!! :tup:

Who was flaming anything???????? And no one was bashing the Mustang. People were just discussing the functionality points of scoops. I am a Mustang officianado having owned 7 Mustangs since 1969. If I thought anyone was flaming a Mustang I would have certainly detected it. And there is no such flaming happening, dude......Gessusss!!! :wtf2:

I’m with you Reaper! I love the GT350 for what it is! If I had Jay Leno money, I would be the first one in line, in front of Jay Leno!!!

The interesting car might be the basic 2011 Mustang GT
 

For around 30 grand you will get the new 5.0 Coyote engine which is said to have around 412 hp with around 390 TQ. If they keep the weight down and tweek the suspension as they say then it could be a bargain. Granted the Z has handled the Mustang in all tests I have seen but give the Mustang another 100 hp and it could be interesting. The 'stang will never out handle the Z but with the additional 100 hp and a motor that is easy and cheap to mod might make things more interesting...Like the Mustang or not, the competition of more hp might find its way into the Z.

Yeah the front end looks sweet. The back end with the black is fugly. Maybe paint the black white to see what it would look like? The black is just not working for me either. :roflpuke2:

2011 Mustang is suppose to come with a track pack like setup standard across the board. This will help with keeping up with the Z in stock form but a slightly bit behind, now the extra power might be enough not to matter.

I'm with Old Chuck! That's kind of funny to say. Old Chuck. Good name. Anyway, Mustangs are designed to be modified. I forgot what the exact statistic was, but it was over 50% of Mustang owners mod. I also heard that new Coyote 5.0L can handle ridiculous amounts of power, right from the factory. I like the looks of the Shelby, but 60k is a little much. Throw on a Supercharger, upgrade the brakes yourself and... VROOOM! Monster! Good for Ford!

I don't know what comparative tests you were reading but most of the major car magazine comparison tests were for the most part so close that many of the car magazines considered the Z and Mustang to be pretty darn near equal.

I had a Shelby GT (not the GT350 or GT500) that could hand a 370Z's azz on a platter on a slalom course. And with a driver who knows what he is doing on a straight-line, either car could win on any given run. And since I owned both cars at one time (Shelby GT 47000 miles, 370Z 9600 miles) I should know as I drove them alot more miles than a weekend warrior car magazine editor.

Granted the Shelby GT isn't stock from a suspension standpoint but just about everything else is compared to a Ford production Mustang.

So again I don't know what you are reading when referring to when you say "The 'stang will never out handle the Z". I had one that did.

something about center exit exhaust just rubs me the wrong way

There isn't any power difference between the stock 370Z and the Mustang when measuring at the wheels. The stock Mustang makes less crank HP than the 370Z (319 to 332 respectively) but at the wheels they are about equal in stock configuration. The Z uses up more HP to overcome its drive train friction than the Mustang does.

Its the weight difference between the cars that accounts of most of the miniscule differences identified in the comparisons....stock Mustangs weigh nearly 300 to 350 lbs more than a 370Z.

Meh, your best bet will always be to buy a stock GT and go from there. The Steeda/Roush/Saleen/Shelby/Etc. cars are always overpriced and the names really don't mean anything.

:gtfo2: While I might just agree with you on the "large riced-out" wings out there, this is a Z. Not an Accord or a "Musteng". Nissan did a pretty good job with their wing for the sport edition. The Nismo is another story.

Looks like every other mustang to me. And for that price, I'd get an M3.

ZkindaGuy
 

I will defer to your experience with both cars. You are right. I was referring to articles in magazines not actual experience. In most of those, the Z comes out best in the handling department but even then, it is a close call. I have driven the Z and current mustang but would like to play with the new 5.0 when they come out. I too, know folks who track their mustangs and they say that a whole bunch can be done even with the live rear end. Most say the same thing which is a mustang can be made to handle very well. All in all, I think the competiton is good both for the Z and the mustang. Being old, I remember my '66 mustang fondly but a 2011 with the 5.0 at safe low boost to about 500 hp for around 40 grand is not a bad thought.....

I assume the new 2011 GT with 412 hp will not jump much in price over the current GT (base price currently around 32K). The Z is the handling king for the money, the mustang will be the power king for the money next year.