Fast or Quick
 

I decided to create this thread - part of it under the influence of whiskey and splash of sprite and the other part of it to ask the opinion of would you rather a quick car (such as the 370z tuned) or a fast car like a Supra. The reason why I bring this up - is that when you think about it - fun and quick/fast > than fast and boring. I can’t tell how many times I have told my sis - this car is faster than the 370z but….you are hitting illegal speeds in 2nd gear which tells me - while it’s faster - its not fun.

So the question I ask - do you take a fun car over a fast car - and do you consider the Z a fast car? Just my .02 - there seems to be the situation where you go ‘basic full bolt-on’ like intakes, exhaust and HFCs along with a tune - gets you around 320WHP - or do you spend a lot of money on the Z to compete with current modded cars like the Supra, Mustangs and Camaros - are…..do you care about all that and look at the ‘fun’ factor? Reason why I ask - Z is fun and puts a smile on my face - have HFCs, exhaust and intakes and a tune - but….it’s not Supra fast - does it need to be - I don’t know bc I live the idea of rowing my gears and enjoying the ride.

Again - whiskey post …..but….wondering what others think - bc my Z still is clean and gets a lot of looks….vs getting V8 power and blending in with the rest of the block. Not sure how I feel about that.

I'd argue the Z is more quick than fast. Especially considering the power levels of sports cars these days. The Z is inherently better at catching cars in the corners than on the straights (except for miatas lol).

I'll have to go with fun. But fast can be fun and quick can be fun - just depends on what mood I'm in.

Quick, and fun to drive.... fast depends on your definition of fast....
the VQ engine, is great, has plenty of toque, which makes it fun to drive....

It's more fun to go fast in a slow car, then to go slow in a fast car. Old track saying.

Agreed! Go drive a Mazda Miata, it is the most fun you can have. If you have driving roads near you there won't be any cars that can keep up and you won't have to worry to much about breaking the law.

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I agree with much of what has already been said. There are several cars out there that are faster than the Z and I've driven quite a few, but they don't do for me what the Z does for me. The fun factor coupled with styling and a long standing legacy are priceless. EVERY time I get into my Z my inner child comes alive and EVERY time I leave it, I look back because I'm sad to part from it for a time. It's like unwrapping a much desired present at Christmas all over again. That's how you know you're in the right car for you. Some of my friends think I'm crazy for it, but I've chalked it up to them simply not understanding, and that's ok. That's why I have my Z fam right here! I also think the Z is more accessible for personalization. For many of these faster cars, by the time you go through the purchase process, many (myself included) would not have the finances or desire to mod the car. With the Z more modifications are within financial reach because the initial price point is not astronomical. So that's my own 2 cents. I much rather my fun and quick Z over a fast illegal rocket.

I know this is something one of my best friends tells me all the time - especially when I talk about trading in the Z for something else and the only basis for doing so is…..’well, it’s faster’ haha.

I’m one of those types of people that I am always looking for the next best thing and then when I do trade it in for that ride - I always have a sense of regret. And in the back of my head - I know I will regret trading in the Z - especially now that they no longer make them; as well as I don’t see very many Z’s and in particular the Nismo where I live. Sooo….guess I’ll be keeping the Z and maybe try to save and find a nice 2nd car that doesn’t break the bank. :)

Depends what you define as fast honestly. To some a 10.8 is slow whereas a conservative 13.1 may be too much (1/4) lol. There is ALWAYS something faster, just make sure you get something that will satisfy your driving needs. Personally I look at is it quick being barebones stock because with enough money anything can be fast

YES!!! Took a Miata RF for a test drive. Top down incredible, like almost better than riding a motorcycle incredible!!!

0-60 around 5 seconds is the sweet spot. Slower and it is too slow lol. Faster, and it's over too quick. In other areas of life, being over too quick is NOT a good thing...

I've owned two NA and one NB Miata. They weren't quick off the line, but they were a lot of fun to throw around due to their low weight. In that case, it was fun > fast. Now, the Z-R, even with the AT, brings the fun and fast together into a nice package. Fun + fast = fantastic!

Honestly, anything faster than the Z would be detrimental to my driving record. :driving:

To me, "fast"=top speed, "quick"=acceleration rate. A car that can reach 150mph might be considered fast, even if it takes awhile to achieve it, while a car that can go 0 to 60 in 4 seconds might be considered quick, even if it's top speed is only 100mph.

I prefer getting off the line quick and having buckets of low end torque, but I have no interest in reaching top speeds.

I like the responsiveness of having horsepower and torque, not so much the ability to go 195mph

It is quick and fast enough for me. There will always be faster and quicker. I love rowing the gears in an analog car that doesn't drive itself.

I've never really felt that the 370z was "fast" to me. I love the car because of the looks and it was capable through corners though. Some of the most fun i've had in a car was when I borrowed my buddy's Lotus and went through Smoky Mountains. The car was meh in a straight line but would pretty much murder anything on the twisties.

Being that there's not a lot of twisties in MI and I'm not willing to commit to track days with my car, I've decided to make it fast with turbos and a v8. ... not like doing that is any better than track days. I'm delusional that it will be reliable when im done too.

I'm just gonna stop while I'm ahead.

I was thinking of going the route of turbo'ing the car in the future - but with the new Z coming out - it is making me reconsider it. But...with the cost of new vehicles in general and the possible markups that will appear when the Z comes out makes me think - just enjoy the FBO Z and wait several years to see how the used market is for the new Z. I live in TX - there is a lot of hwy cruising and not a lot of twisties and I don't look to track my vehicles (maybe that is something I should consider).

I'd rather be a fast driver than have a fast car. I can't stand people at track days who have huge egos in their fast (and expensive) cars, but they are convinced I am boosted because I was riding their mirrors the whole lap...on the outside of every corner.


That doesn't answer the question, so I guess it depends on your opinion on fast. I personally would like to have a crack at a 911 GT3 on a track just to see what i can do with it, but I'm fine with my Z for the time being. If anything, I'd ask for less weight, which is why I'm interested in the new 86. I feel like 330whp and just under 3000 lbs is a good mix for fun. If I were to look at something more powerful, a C7 Corvette Grand Sport is about the limit of what I would want.

Dallas has no twisties >.>

Quick enough for the street, but not fast enough for the drag strip.

Had a chance to drive a built trackday Viper with 800 HP and a sequential gearbox on the track. :eek: 2 things with it. Either you're going to die behind the wheel, or do the fastest times you ever did. :driving: :tup:

C7 Grandsport is a great handling car with just enough power.

I prefer to have a fast car that I can decide to driver however I want. I like a choice. Depending on how the mood strikes me is to how I drive.

That’s fair haha - Austin has some really nice driving roads from what I understand :)

At around 10 lbs/hp, the 370Z at the track is an underdog by modern standards.
Most people at the track will not consider it fast on straights.

Cornering, braking, corner exit, are all determined by setup, tires, and driver ability, but simply put, the car N/A will lose ground on straights to the majority of the cars that attend and run at higher run groups.

In time attack, it's probably around average, since fewer people take their supercars to those, and more people take the roadsters and affordable sports cars.

In autocross, yeah....Z's further up there and now classed with muscle cars in F class.

Maybe look at a brz/86 or Miata

I miss my FR-S...that car was fun as hell

I believe the Z is quick not fast as this car isn't intended to be a straight line monster anyway.

I would prefer a little more top end power even though I'll never see 140 MPH.

I'm contemplating about ordering a new Mustang GT with the GT performance pack. I'm really wanting a trunk and back seats to throw stuff in again. I know the Mustang probably won't be as fun in the twisties as the Z but I'm sure a few mods can help with the handling.