Fast or Quick

gbrettin · 07-26-2021, 05:23 PM

I've never really felt that the 370z was "fast" to me. I love the car because of the looks and it was capable through corners though. Some of the most fun i've had in a car was when I borrowed my buddy's Lotus and went through Smoky Mountains. The car was meh in a straight line but would pretty much murder anything on the twisties.

Being that there's not a lot of twisties in MI and I'm not willing to commit to track days with my car, I've decided to make it fast with turbos and a v8. ... not like doing that is any better than track days. I'm delusional that it will be reliable when im done too.

I'm just gonna stop while I'm ahead.

NecioVato · 07-26-2021, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by gbrettin

I've never really felt that the 370z was "fast" to me. I love the car because of the looks and it was capable through corners though. Some of the most fun i've had in a car was when I borrowed my buddy's Lotus and went through Smoky Mountains. The car was meh in a straight line but would pretty much murder anything on the twisties.

Being that there's not a lot of twisties in MI and I'm not willing to commit to track days with my car, I've decided to make it fast with turbos and a v8. ... not like doing that is any better than track days. I'm delusional that it will be reliable when im done too.

I'm just gonna stop while I'm ahead.

I was thinking of going the route of turbo'ing the car in the future - but with the new Z coming out - it is making me reconsider it. But...with the cost of new vehicles in general and the possible markups that will appear when the Z comes out makes me think - just enjoy the FBO Z and wait several years to see how the used market is for the new Z. I live in TX - there is a lot of hwy cruising and not a lot of twisties and I don't look to track my vehicles (maybe that is something I should consider).

abm89 · 07-26-2021, 05:49 PM

I'd rather be a fast driver than have a fast car. I can't stand people at track days who have huge egos in their fast (and expensive) cars, but they are convinced I am boosted because I was riding their mirrors the whole lap...on the outside of every corner.

That doesn't answer the question, so I guess it depends on your opinion on fast. I personally would like to have a crack at a 911 GT3 on a track just to see what i can do with it, but I'm fine with my Z for the time being. If anything, I'd ask for less weight, which is why I'm interested in the new 86. I feel like 330whp and just under 3000 lbs is a good mix for fun. If I were to look at something more powerful, a C7 Corvette Grand Sport is about the limit of what I would want.

abm89 · 07-26-2021, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NecioVato

I was thinking of going the route of turbo'ing the car in the future - but with the new Z coming out - it is making me reconsider it. But...with the cost of new vehicles in general and the possible markups that will appear when the Z comes out makes me think - just enjoy the FBO Z and wait several years to see how the used market is for the new Z. I live in TX - there is a lot of hwy cruising and not a lot of twisties and I don't look to track my vehicles (maybe that is something I should consider).

Dallas has no twisties >.>

SteveVQ · 07-26-2021, 06:24 PM

Quick enough for the street, but not fast enough for the drag strip.

Rusty · 07-26-2021, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by abm89

I'd rather be a fast driver than have a fast car. I can't stand people at track days who have huge egos in their fast (and expensive) cars, but they are convinced I am boosted because I was riding their mirrors the whole lap...on the outside of every corner.

That doesn't answer the question, so I guess it depends on your opinion on fast. I personally would like to have a crack at a 911 GT3 on a track just to see what i can do with it, but I'm fine with my Z for the time being. If anything, I'd ask for less weight, which is why I'm interested in the new 86. I feel like 330whp and just under 3000 lbs is a good mix for fun. If I were to look at something more powerful, a C7 Corvette Grand Sport is about the limit of what I would want.

Had a chance to drive a built trackday Viper with 800 HP and a sequential gearbox on the track.

2 things with it. Either you're going to die behind the wheel, or do the fastest times you ever did.

Spooler · 07-26-2021, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abm89

I'd rather be a fast driver than have a fast car. I can't stand people at track days who have huge egos in their fast (and expensive) cars, but they are convinced I am boosted because I was riding their mirrors the whole lap...on the outside of every corner.

That doesn't answer the question, so I guess it depends on your opinion on fast. I personally would like to have a crack at a 911 GT3 on a track just to see what i can do with it, but I'm fine with my Z for the time being. If anything, I'd ask for less weight, which is why I'm interested in the new 86. I feel like 330whp and just under 3000 lbs is a good mix for fun. If I were to look at something more powerful, a C7 Corvette Grand Sport is about the limit of what I would want.

C7 Grandsport is a great handling car with just enough power.

Spooler · 07-26-2021, 10:18 PM

I prefer to have a fast car that I can decide to driver however I want. I like a choice. Depending on how the mood strikes me is to how I drive.

NecioVato · 07-26-2021, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by abm89

Dallas has no twisties >.>

That’s fair haha - Austin has some really nice driving roads from what I understand

DarkJak · 07-28-2021, 04:31 PM

At around 10 lbs/hp, the 370Z at the track is an underdog by modern standards.
Most people at the track will not consider it fast on straights.

Cornering, braking, corner exit, are all determined by setup, tires, and driver ability, but simply put, the car N/A will lose ground on straights to the majority of the cars that attend and run at higher run groups.

In time attack, it's probably around average, since fewer people take their supercars to those, and more people take the roadsters and affordable sports cars.

In autocross, yeah....Z's further up there and now classed with muscle cars in F class.

370zBoyz · 08-12-2021, 01:52 AM

Maybe look at a brz/86 or Miata

I miss my FR-S...that car was fun as hell

Dreadnaught · 08-12-2021, 05:01 AM

I believe the Z is quick not fast as this car isn't intended to be a straight line monster anyway.

I would prefer a little more top end power even though I'll never see 140 MPH.

I'm contemplating about ordering a new Mustang GT with the GT performance pack. I'm really wanting a trunk and back seats to throw stuff in again. I know the Mustang probably won't be as fun in the twisties as the Z but I'm sure a few mods can help with the handling.

07-26-2021, 05:23 PM	#16 (permalink)
gbrettin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Portage, MI Posts: 2,284 Drives: Tricycle Rep Power: 589151	I've never really felt that the 370z was "fast" to me. I love the car because of the looks and it was capable through corners though. Some of the most fun i've had in a car was when I borrowed my buddy's Lotus and went through Smoky Mountains. The car was meh in a straight line but would pretty much murder anything on the twisties. Being that there's not a lot of twisties in MI and I'm not willing to commit to track days with my car, I've decided to make it fast with turbos and a v8. ... not like doing that is any better than track days. I'm delusional that it will be reliable when im done too. I'm just gonna stop while I'm ahead. Rusty, Hotrodz, abm89 and 1 others like this.

07-26-2021, 05:49 PM	#18 (permalink)
abm89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 1,386 Drives: 11 370Z \| 24 EL450 Rep Power: 64763	I'd rather be a fast driver than have a fast car. I can't stand people at track days who have huge egos in their fast (and expensive) cars, but they are convinced I am boosted because I was riding their mirrors the whole lap...on the outside of every corner. That doesn't answer the question, so I guess it depends on your opinion on fast. I personally would like to have a crack at a 911 GT3 on a track just to see what i can do with it, but I'm fine with my Z for the time being. If anything, I'd ask for less weight, which is why I'm interested in the new 86. I feel like 330whp and just under 3000 lbs is a good mix for fun. If I were to look at something more powerful, a C7 Corvette Grand Sport is about the limit of what I would want. God-Speed and Rusty like this. __________________ Complete Parts List: https://github.com/abm89/ztouge-build

07-26-2021, 06:24 PM	#20 (permalink)
SteveVQ Base Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Florida Posts: 218 Drives: '19 Camaro SS 6MT Rep Power: 52838	Quick enough for the street, but not fast enough for the drag strip. gbrettin likes this. __________________ ‘19 Camaro SS 1SS 6MT ‘13 370Z Sport/Touring 6MT 328whp (Sold) #LetsGoBrandon! Last edited by SteveVQ; 08-05-2021 at 04:04 PM.

07-26-2021, 10:18 PM	#23 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,830 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	I prefer to have a fast car that I can decide to driver however I want. I like a choice. Depending on how the mood strikes me is to how I drive. gbrettin and Hotrodz like this.

07-28-2021, 04:31 PM	#25 (permalink)
DarkJak A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 1,397 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 16804	At around 10 lbs/hp, the 370Z at the track is an underdog by modern standards. Most people at the track will not consider it fast on straights. Cornering, braking, corner exit, are all determined by setup, tires, and driver ability, but simply put, the car N/A will lose ground on straights to the majority of the cars that attend and run at higher run groups. In time attack, it's probably around average, since fewer people take their supercars to those, and more people take the roadsters and affordable sports cars. In autocross, yeah....Z's further up there and now classed with muscle cars in F class. JARblue likes this. __________________ @stupidtoycars \| My track vids 09 7AT\|MCS 2WNR\|Topgunz Rotrex\|Ecutek (Eugene)\|Maxxis RC1\|Titan-7 TS-5\|OSG LSD\|Rear Mount Derale Oil Cooler (WIP)+25 Trans Cooler\|Fismo\|G-LOC R12/R10\|Zeta III L\|NLR Wing and Splitter\|CJM Pan and Fuel Hat\|Radium Surge Tank\|AP Racing CP9668

08-12-2021, 01:52 AM	#26 (permalink)
370zBoyz Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Driver seat Posts: 207 Drives: Nismo Rep Power: 7214	Maybe look at a brz/86 or Miata I miss my FR-S...that car was fun as hell

08-12-2021, 05:01 AM	#27 (permalink)
Dreadnaught Track Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Farmington, Utah Posts: 582 Drives: 14 SR 370z 6MT Rep Power: 10139	I believe the Z is quick not fast as this car isn't intended to be a straight line monster anyway. I would prefer a little more top end power even though I'll never see 140 MPH. I'm contemplating about ordering a new Mustang GT with the GT performance pack. I'm really wanting a trunk and back seats to throw stuff in again. I know the Mustang probably won't be as fun in the twisties as the Z but I'm sure a few mods can help with the handling. __________________ Ford Diesel and Heavy Line Technician at your service.

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