Scary - should I be concerned?

j.arnaldo · 01-24-2010, 11:37 AM

Start piling up the evidence (i.e. paperwork generated by the visits to the stealership). You might be able to apply the "lemmon law" to your case and have them take it back. Check for your state's applicable law(s). Good luck!

theDreamer · 01-24-2010, 11:41 AM

You might want to check some other companies first before throwing Nissan under the bus.
Also, some of the issues you have are just characteristics of the parts they use. It is what makes a Z a Z, they use a certain transmission or certain clutch or even the screws to which cause the issue to be created.

OldGuy · 01-24-2010, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Blown32

I really like the car but my first nissan and my last!To many little issues in this day and age and apparently nissan R&D department is lost.After hearing about the stupid little issues of the 350's and never resolved and then passed along to this new 370 it just tells me nissan is not a best buy!
I always believed that Toyota,Honda and Nissan were the top three foreign made cars?Thats basically why when seeing the new 370 I went for it right away.Should have found this site earlier and would have been aware!
Having owned Toyota's and Honda's there is no comparrison at all with the Nissan product?Nissan is of poor refined quality and there dealers and warranty reputation sucks!
Its a shame to because the car could be so much better and up to date.Trans shifting from 1 to 2nd?Was a problem in the 350"s also?DAH!
Clutch noise?Was a problem in the 350?DAH?Paint sucks terribly?
So nissan doesn't care about its customers only sales?Nissan is of poor quality and not a sound financial purchase in my opinion!

My Nissan Altimas have all gone and gone and gone without any problems for 6 digit mileages and my current Altima Coupe has been perfect. Conversely, in 2004 I bought an expensive brand new top-of-the-line V-6 Honda Accord Coupe six speed that was troubled from the very first day I had it and turned out to be a lemon! So car quality can be anecdotal to a large extent. My take of the conventional wisdom seems to be that as to quality, Nissan comes in a sort of distant third to Toyota and Honda but way better than most European companies and far better than the American manufacturers. I reconciled myself to having to live with that, as I wanted a Z because of its styling, performance, etc. Reliability was only one criterion, albeit an important one. Unfortunately, I have to agree with you on the soft paint problem. The price we have to pay for that shortcoming is a few more bucks for Clear Bra---c'est le vie.

j.arnaldo · 01-24-2010, 12:49 PM

Aha, reliability stats are a "global", general record generated by a specific make. In general terms, Toyota, Honda, Nissan & Subaru are up there, in the "elite" group; but, like all things manufactured by humans, there will be "bad apples".

rudi · 01-24-2010, 04:40 PM

Nothings perfect

DooDooBrown · 01-24-2010, 10:44 PM

Sounds to me like you either got something on your electrical fan, or the fan itself is starting to burn out!! IDK, just a guess!

roplusbee · 01-24-2010, 11:33 PM

Hopefully my 2009 NISMO purchase will be free of major issues. Jsut make sure you get your "issues" documented and things will fall into place if they are issues that can be addressed.

My personal opinion of NISSAN is pretty good. They have built their reputation on giving buyer a lot of car for the money spent. If you are looking for a luxurious car filled with refinement and creature comforts, NISSAN/INFINITI may not be for you. All companies have their strengths and weeknesses. You just have to accept them for what they are and choose accordingly. Otherwise, there would be no reason to compair automakers. Even worse, we could all be driving Hyundais...........

370Zsteve · 01-24-2010, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blown32

I really like the car but my first nissan and my last!To many little issues in this day and age and apparently nissan R&D department is lost.After hearing about the stupid little issues of the 350's and never resolved and then passed along to this new 370 it just tells me nissan is not a best buy!
I always believed that Toyota,Honda and Nissan were the top three foreign made cars?Thats basically why when seeing the new 370 I went for it right away.Should have found this site earlier and would have been aware!
Having owned Toyota's and Honda's there is no comparrison at all with the Nissan product?Nissan is of poor refined quality and there dealers and warranty reputation sucks!
Its a shame to because the car could be so much better and up to date.Trans shifting from 1 to 2nd?Was a problem in the 350"s also?DAH!
Clutch noise?Was a problem in the 350?DAH?Paint sucks terribly?
So nissan doesn't care about its customers only sales?Nissan is of poor quality and not a sound financial purchase in my opinion!

Wow! don't let the door hit you on the way out!

Blown32 · 01-25-2010, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Wow! don't let the door hit you on the way out!

Might you be one in denial about the issues of nissan quality control?This forum is full of issues about this new 370 and past 350's?
Truth hurts sometimes doesn't it?

Blown32 · 01-25-2010, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theDreamer

You might want to check some other companies first before throwing Nissan under the bus.
Also, some of the issues you have are just characteristics of the parts they use. It is what makes a Z a Z, they use a certain transmission or certain clutch or even the screws to which cause the issue to be created.

"Characteristics of some parts they use"???WOW!Smoking some good stuff!
Thats a line from the book of excuses if I ever heard one!
Are you car salesman or factory rep by any chance?

theDreamer · 01-25-2010, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blown32

"Characteristics of some parts they use"???WOW!Smoking some good stuff!
Thats a line from the book of excuses if I ever heard one!
Are you car salesman or factory rep by any chance?

No, but certain parts have characteristics to them that cause issues and cannot be avoided unless you go with a new part. No offense but read a little about your car and you will learn something.

ChrisSlicks · 01-25-2010, 10:26 AM

Electricity is completely odorless, so I'm not sure what you mean exactly by an electrical smell.

You can certainly occasionally smell some parts that consume or produce electricity such as the alternator, electric fans, or high power transistors. There is also the burnt electronics smell which you get when certain semiconductors blow up, but that one is much stinkier. Electrical arching produces ozone, which has a distinctive smell. Some electric motors have a fine coating of oil on their windings to prevent corrosion, and when they get hot you can sometimes smell this ... although it will diminish with age.

vipor · 01-25-2010, 10:32 AM

a cap or coil burning is a pretty distinctive smell. a mosfet burning out is similar, yet slightly less organic smelling. our car shouldn't really have any mosfets anywhere.

the clutch chatter and 1-2 shifts are documented and while noisy/rough, are not actual issues. the transmission does operate differently in 1st and 2nd (something with the synchros) and the clutch/throwout bearing chatter is just a common trait of stronger clutches.

dbrs0821 · 01-25-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

Electricity is completely odorless, so I'm not sure what you mean exactly by an electrical smell.

You can certainly occasionally smell some parts that consume or produce electricity such as the alternator, electric fans, or high power transistors. There is also the burnt electronics smell which you get when certain semiconductors blow up, but that one is much stinkier. Electrical arching produces ozone, which has a distinctive smell. Some electric motors have a fine coating of oil on their windings to prevent corrosion, and when they get hot you can sometimes smell this ... although it will diminish with age.

Thanks for the clarification, Chris. Technically speaking, you're absolutely correct...electricity is odorless. Perhaps what I smelled (and hopefully won't ever again from this car) was something arching which doesn't seem normal.

I remember once when my cousin installed a ceiling fan and wired the light kit incorrectly. When we turned the power back on it started to smoke, and that smell was exactly the same one that I smelled coming through the Z's air vents.

I've put my concern to bed and will deal with it if it happens again!

dbrs0821 · 01-25-2010, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vipor

a cap or coil burning is a pretty distinctive smell. a mosfet burning out is similar, yet slightly less organic smelling. our car shouldn't really have any mosfets anywhere.

the clutch chatter and 1-2 shifts are documented and while noisy/rough, are not actual issues. the transmission does operate differently in 1st and 2nd (something with the synchros) and the clutch/throwout bearing chatter is just a common trait of stronger clutches.

Yep, the 1-2 shifts and clutch clatter concerns were put to bed a few weeks ago. Because of less sound insulation (than compared to my '09 Maxima) I'm just going to hear more "going on" than I would from some of my previous rides.

01-24-2010, 11:41 AM	#17 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	You might want to check some other companies first before throwing Nissan under the bus. Also, some of the issues you have are just characteristics of the parts they use. It is what makes a Z a Z, they use a certain transmission or certain clutch or even the screws to which cause the issue to be created. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

01-24-2010, 11:33 PM	#22 (permalink)
roplusbee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Killeen, TX Posts: 2,360 Drives: 2007 350Z NISMO Rep Power: 23	Hopefully my 2009 NISMO purchase will be free of major issues. Jsut make sure you get your "issues" documented and things will fall into place if they are issues that can be addressed. My personal opinion of NISSAN is pretty good. They have built their reputation on giving buyer a lot of car for the money spent. If you are looking for a luxurious car filled with refinement and creature comforts, NISSAN/INFINITI may not be for you. All companies have their strengths and weeknesses. You just have to accept them for what they are and choose accordingly. Otherwise, there would be no reason to compair automakers. Even worse, we could all be driving Hyundais........... __________________ 2007 350Z NISMO #0618: Zerolift \| UPREV \| F.I. \| Greddy \| Competition Clutch \| Injector Dynamics \| Aeromotive \| Pioneer \| JL

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vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	a cap or coil burning is a pretty distinctive smell. a mosfet burning out is similar, yet slightly less organic smelling. our car shouldn't really have any mosfets anywhere. the clutch chatter and 1-2 shifts are documented and while noisy/rough, are not actual issues. the transmission does operate differently in 1st and 2nd (something with the synchros) and the clutch/throwout bearing chatter is just a common trait of stronger clutches. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

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j.arnaldo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 937 Drives: Nissan 350Z, 2004 Rep Power: 0	Start piling up the evidence (i.e. paperwork generated by the visits to the stealership). You might be able to apply the "lemmon law" to your case and have them take it back. Check for your state's applicable law(s). Good luck!

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ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	Electricity is completely odorless, so I'm not sure what you mean exactly by an electrical smell. You can certainly occasionally smell some parts that consume or produce electricity such as the alternator, electric fans, or high power transistors. There is also the burnt electronics smell which you get when certain semiconductors blow up, but that one is much stinkier. Electrical arching produces ozone, which has a distinctive smell. Some electric motors have a fine coating of oil on their windings to prevent corrosion, and when they get hot you can sometimes smell this ... although it will diminish with age.