End of an Era - There is no 2021 370Z

viiv

Lol, probably the biggest attempt I have seen in taking something out of context.

No more gas Corvette after 2035:

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...ht-duty-trucks

Cyber370

Yes there is! Unfortunately, tree huggers will do whatever it takes to keep it in the ground.

The truth is that there aren’t enough natural resources in the world to manufacture the number of batteries required to replace even half of today’s ICE cars. Unless we give up our cars for bicycles , ICE cars will still be around for a long time, using extremely efficient and clean burning engines.

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-ZS-Carpenter

I'm not worried about oil, they'll never stop growing corn and ethanol isn't hard to make

Rusty

One draught wipes it out. Remember your history of the "Dust Bowl"?

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cooltoy

Glad I made you laugh.

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viiv

The gasoline only Z will be discontinued around 2025! Z35 will then become a hybrid until the end of its lifecycle in 2030 using the same hybrid power train to be introduced in the Infiniti Q50/Q60 in 2024-2025. If there is a Z36 after that, it will be an EV. (via Google translate):



Impact of Nissan's all-new car electrification policy !! Can Fairlady Z and GT-R survive !? Next model and whereabouts of survival
February 2, 2021 / News


All new cars launched by Nissan from the early 2030s will be electrified! What will happen to Nissan's next-generation sports models, the "GT-R" and "Fairlady Z," which represent Japan, and beyond?

On January 27th, Nissan announced a release on carbon neutrality. Among them, it is clear that "from the early 2030s, we will further actively promote the adoption of electrification technology by making all new models to be launched in the main markets of Japan, China, the United States, and Europe into electric vehicles."

As a result, the GT-R and Fairlady Z, which are sports models, will have to be electrified in the next generation in order to survive.

As fuel economy and noise regulations are tightened, the current GT-R will be discontinued by the end of the year, and the next Z will be hybridized. Below, Mr. Mitsuhiro Kunisawa explains.


The current GT-R will be discontinued by the end of the year.

Nissan has stated that it has set a carbon-neutral target for 2050 and that it will make all new models launched in major markets from the early 2030s electric vehicles.

In other words, it will clear both the 2050 carbon neutral that Prime Minister Suga announced in his statement of belief and the Tokyo Governor Koike's "stop selling pure gasoline in 2035." Appearance with both faces.

I would like to analyze the specific content. First of all, what is worrisome for car lovers is the trend of the GT-R and the next Fairlady Z, which has already announced its style.

Although it is a GT-R, it seems that it cannot clear "Phase 3" of the noise regulation that will come into effect from 2022. The criteria for Phase 3 are extremely strict, and the power unit must be "almost silent".

No, even if the noise from the power unit can be reduced, the regulation cannot be cleared by the tire running noise with high-performance tires. The current GT-R will be discontinued by the end of 2021.

By the way, it is strict because it is obligatory to clear noise regulations and even continuous production vehicles. If you are thinking of purchasing the GT-R, order it before the discontinuation is announced.

The next GT-R will be a pure EV !? Tesla now releases the Model S with over 1000 horsepower

The next GT-R will be reborn as an EV sports car like the Porsche Taycan and Tesla Model S (expected CG created by the best car)
When asked if there is a next-generation GT-R, answer "Yes!" Without any reason. There are many opinions within Nissan that "GT-R is necessary", and maybe it has already started development for commercial use.


Of course, I don't think it's a half-finished eco-friendly car like a hybrid or PHV. Even if such a power unit is released in 2025, it will only sell for 5 years.

Naturally it will be a pure electric car. High-performance cars can now be made even as electric cars. On the contrary, the electric car may be more suitable for GT-R.

The Tesla Model S has a minor change to increase the motor output to 1020 horsepower! Since the maximum speed is 320km / h, it surpasses the current GT-R and accelerates from 0 to 100km / h in 2.1 seconds!　

2.1 seconds is different from the story and dimension that GT-R is less than 3 seconds. It's faster than the acceleration of an F1 car. The new Tesla Roadster is 0-100km / h in 2 seconds. It is said that it will take less than 9 seconds with 0-400m acceleration.

Just as the current GT-R aimed for the fastest Nürburgring on the market, the new GT-R would be interesting if it aimed for a car faster than Tesla.

Nissan is also developing an all-solid-state battery that has more than three times the performance of current lithium-ion batteries. If realized, it is possible to have higher performance than Tesla. For electric vehicles, the only noise regulation is tires.

I managed to clear it, and I can afford the corporate average fuel consumption CAFE2030. It is an electrified vehicle certified by the Tokyo Metropolitan Government, and can continue until it is carbon-free in 2050.

New Fairlady Z from pure gasoline specifications to HV


How about the Fairlady Z, which is scheduled to be released in 2022? This car is a model that was considered to be sold in the United States, which had become a fuel economy regulation for Yuruyuru during President Trump's time.

That's why both the platform and the engine combine existing items. However, he became President Biden and changed his policy 180 degrees. We are about to become an environmentally friendly country.

Probably not thinking about selling for a long time from the beginning. At most 5 years. No, the Fairlady Z, which runs only on the engine for about 3 years at the shortest, has no model life.

In the second or third year, it will be upgraded to the same hybrid as the Skyline, and it will be sold until around 2030 when strict fuel efficiency regulations will start.

Nissan is solid with EV + e-POWER! The question is "whether you can make a fun car"

Announced carbon neutral goals for 2050. Announced the innovation of batteries including new e-POWER and all-solid-state batteries, the utilization of renewable energy and the development of recycling technology to achieve the goal.
It may be disappointing to read this far, but I don't think it will be dark tomorrow for Nissan. This is because Nissan is good at electrification technology. The 2030 CAFE, which has become a strict regulation value, can be sufficiently cleared with an electric vehicle + e-POWER.

At the time of the Tokyo Metropolitan Government regulation in 2035, it would be all electrified. No, is it an all-electric environment before 2030?

There is no problem with making all carbon-free cars in 2050 electric vehicles. I think that I announced the goal setting like the beginning of the sentence because I have already made a long-term plan such as.

　
The question is whether we can make a fun car. Considering only practicality, price competition will occur. However, if you can create a brand image, you can sell high value-added products.

Let's say you made a women's bag with similar materials and functions. 100,000 yen for famous European brands. A Japanese bag costs 20,000 yen at most. I think the same is true for electric vehicles.

If you are making popular products, you cannot beat China. I think it will be important to be able to create high value. If it can be realized, Nissan will prosper, and it will be tough if it comes to compete in price competition.

https://bestcarweb.jp/news/243426

JARblue

lol wut?

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Rusty

Now.....what's going to happen with all of the ICE cars on the road now? Will dealers take them in on trade for a EV? How big of a hit are you willing to take on trade in? How long before stations stop selling gas and diesel?

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JARblue

Same thing that happens to them now when they bite the dust. They get put on display. You know, on cinder blocks in someone's front yard

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Cyber370

So it begins. Release date for new Z pushed back to at least 2023.

https://daxstreet.com/cars/1925/niss...-need-to-know/

I’ll say it again, nothing certain about a new Z release. Guys, hold on to your Z’s because when they’re gone, everyone is gonna want one!

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JARblue

Who didn't see that one coming? Well, except for those whose hope springs eternal.

Thinking about starting a sportsbook that only takes bets on Nissan Z release dates

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Quicksilvers

I heard the same information regarding the actual release date of the Z35 it will not be until sometime in 2023. Don’t hold your breath and keep your Z’s it will be a while. I have been hoping that Nissan can produce a GTR that will be faster than the new Tesla model S. How really wants an electric car? Not me.

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Cyber370

If the new GTR really ends up being electric, that will be the end of the GTR era. Oh man, can you imagine how much people will be willing to pay for a R35 GTR. It will be crazy!!!

An all electric GTR will be another cookie-cutter, electric razzle-dazzle iPhone on wheels. Not interested.

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