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Old 09-12-2020, 05:44 PM   #16 (permalink)
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You have every right to be upset and bitter toward Nissan - I think if any of us would be in your situation - we would all be upset and feeling like you do. My advice (and I’m sure you have or will be doing this) is to go ahead and trade it in - look at Carvana in particular - no muss, no fuss; this might be a silver lining. Since we are in a pandemic and the 2020 have all been experiencing shortages (or so I hear), the cost of the used car is going up - and it seems like a lot of places to have inventory or paying more than they would normally do. I actually saw that Carvana is offering me about $500-700 more than what CarMax offered me about a year ago - and that is with having miles increase by 10k. If nothing else - it’s worth a look and if you were ever looking to trade-in a vehicle - this is the time. Good luck and wish you had better luck.
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Old 09-12-2020, 10:34 PM   #17 (permalink)
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My experience with the dealerships:

The one in Oregon I went to, I'm not going to mention the name, but they were in Beaverton... nice service advisors who have to take the blame for everything, but I was less than thrilled when the rubber meets the road there. They seem to have fairly high turnover, and that's probably how they botched changing the transmission fluid on my Z? No Idea, but it was FINE til they touched it. Overall that dealership simply didn't care. It took them 6 weeks to replace a transmission, and claimed it was "lost" at one point during shipping. I believe they just sent my old transmission somewhere to be "remanufactured" but who knows. Either way I'm glad I wasn't out of pocket $6800 , and now will listen to you guys and get a manual Z next time

Since moving to AZ.. I've been THRILLED with East Valley Nissan. They really go above and beyond, so it's renewed my faith in atleast Nissan dealerships, but I am a realist and understand that Nissan has problems to fix, namely their moronic commitment to the CVT transmissions, and love affair with subprime financing to push the Altima which evidently has a crazy amount of depreciation, so kind of a perverse money maker.

Excited to see what the next Z will look like, but going back to OP: As many say, I believe buying a 3rd year from a new generation is likely the best move.
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Old 09-14-2020, 01:47 AM   #18 (permalink)
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So I bought a new 2011 NISMO right after the 2008-2010 recession. I got a good deal on it after the typical BS at the car dealership. This was my first new Nissan.



Before making one payment on it, the paint started peeling on multiple parts of the car. I had to argue with the original dealer and Nissan NA to get it repaired. That is when I realized Nissan is a 3rd rate auto manufacturer. The paint started peeling on the repair and Nissan told me essentially to go pound sand. That was strike one.



My steering lock failed and Nissan refused that repair under the recall even though the part number was the exact same for the 2008-2010 models. People on this forum argued and said it did not effect the 2011's but it sure af did. That was strike two.



The one time I needed an alignment, I went to the dealership and rather than do an alignment, they took my GTM SC'ed car on a 5 mile joy ride. I had video and picture evidence to prove it. They could not even produce an alignment sheet. After making a colorful scene inside the dealership sales floor, someone in management refunded my money. Nissan NA again told me the dealers are "independent" and to pound sand. That was strike three.



Two years ago, my dash got a shiny, greasy appearance. The car had less than 40k on it and is 100% garaged. I research online and find out this a common problem with several Nissan models and to try your luck at the dealersh!t. Once again the dealer and Nissan NA told me to pound sand. That was strike four.



Now I receive a passenger airbag inflator recall notice in the mail from Nissan NA. I do exactly what the notice asks me to do. I waste 1/2 the day chasing my tail because the dealer says the recall only applies to certain states. Why the F is Nissan mailing recalls to Arizona if the recall only applies to certain states not including Arizona. That is strike 5 for those who are counting. It took me 4 calls including hang ups to get someone from Nissan NA to just tell me we made a mistake go pound sand and we don't care we sent you on a wild goose chase.







I do not care what the next Z looks like or how it performs. I will never set foot in another dealer or ever give Nissan a penny. They are struggling financially and I for one hope they go under. Screw their heritage. I will drive anything before I would consider Nissan again. So F you Nissan.
Yet another example of why you do your own maintenance... and buy full SPL geometry so you never need another alignment.

When I have no other option but to take the Z to a shop:

A) I don't go to a stealership;
B) I tell them if I can't keep eyes on the Z while they're working on it, I'll take my car and my $$$ elsewhere.

So I end up doing all the maintenance myself. I get that's not for everyone. But don't take your car to a place what does substandard service (aka all stealerships) and then b*tch about their substandard service.

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I just had mine done via that recall. My Z has 13.5 k miles on it , garaged kept only issues I have had is the vapor canister going out at 12 k miles and after 6.5 years the dash started to show signs of the stickiness and the same common fracture lines. funny its was just out of extended warranty. I rarely want to park it in the sun to avoid any further dash issues. At about 2K ish to replace I am considering just selling mine. I am going to try to get a second opinion on the dash at a custom interior place but it just may be a long shot.
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You all be glad you dont have a Nissan CVT transmission.

If you do, trade it in immediately..
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I just had mine done via that recall. My Z has 13.5 k miles on it , garaged kept only issues I have had is the vapor canister going out at 12 k miles and after 6.5 years the dash started to show signs of the stickiness and the same common fracture lines. funny its was just out of extended warranty. I rarely want to park it in the sun to avoid any further dash issues. At about 2K ish to replace I am considering just selling mine. I am going to try to get a second opinion on the dash at a custom interior place but it just may be a long shot.
Common denominator on these melting dash seems to be moisture.

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I'm 55 and in my driving life I've had many different cars from Chevy, Ford, Toyota, Honda and Datsun. In 2018 I purchased a new Nismo Z. Besides the 1984 Toyota Celica I had in High School that ran forever, this Nismo Z is the best car I've owned. Granted I have only 15k miles on it, but I have not had one issue with paint, mechanical or otherwise. In fact, I am impressed with the overall quality of it. Before the Z, I had a new Camaro SS and I can tell you the quality of materials in the Z are better than the Camaro. As far as your bad experience, in which I feel for you, dealerships of all brands are independently owned and operated and there are a lot of DB's working in them. Besides, there is always more to a story than what one states.
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I'm 55 and in my driving life I've had many different cars from Chevy, Ford, Toyota, Honda and Datsun. In 2018 I purchased a new Nismo Z. Besides the 1984 Toyota Celica I had in High School that ran forever, this Nismo Z is the best car I've owned. Granted I have only 15k miles on it, but I have not had one issue with paint, mechanical or otherwise. In fact, I am impressed with the overall quality of it. Before the Z, I had a new Camaro SS and I can tell you the quality of materials in the Z are better than the Camaro. As far as your bad experience, in which I feel for you, dealerships of all brands are independently owned and operated and there are a lot of DB's working in them. Besides, there is always more to a story than what one states.
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I'm sorry about the issues you've had. Doesn't sound like you've had the CSC issue, yet. That's a whole separate crap show. I still can't believe Nissan is able to stall that lawsuit because it's the only defect/potential recall that might actually get someone killed. I almost died because of it on the second day of owning my Z a couple months ago.
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I love the OP's post.

Yes as much as I love my car, I hate Nissan NA and every dealership in the states. These people don't care period.
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