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Z1 Anti-Fuel Starvation Kit and Fuel Readings

I know this is an old thread, but any update on what the problem was? I installed this Z1 kit on my G37 2 weeks ago. I barely drove it

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Old 11-30-2023, 08:02 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I know this is an old thread, but any update on what the problem was?

I installed this Z1 kit on my G37 2 weeks ago. I barely drove it after install until track day this past weekend. It was a CCW layout so not too many hard right turns and the starvation kit probably wasn't too necessary, but my fuel gauge would just drop to completely empty while racing, even when there was plenty of fuel in the car. This is so scary. But then the gauge would randomly start working again (not sure even the reading was even correct) and then go out again when it felt like it. Towards the end of the day when I was running around what I guessed to be a quarter tank, the tank read empty and never came back on. I can't be having no reading. The purpose of this kit was to be able to allow me to race under half a tank without fuel cutoff to save weight. But I can't optimize my fuel weight if I never know when I'm going to run out of gas. Getting towed off the track isn't cheap.

I opened up the tank the next day to check out what was going on. My Lever Arm Sensors had plenty of room to move freely, nothing blocking them. But I noticed that the passenger side (with main pump) was completely full of fuel while my drivers side was bone dry empty. I guess the kit was doing its job, but its causing too many more issues.

I called Z1 to ask what they knew about this. They said that they will often install this kit with a "relay or switch" but were unable to tell me any of the details about it. They also told me I probably shouldn't have the starvation pump running if its not pulling any fuel. But yeah, no solutions offered. So much for an "all in one kit" that needs unknown additional equipment to work properly.

Then I called Specialty Z because they just tuned my car after I installed this kit and my E85 conversion components. They said that if the lever arm on only 1 side of the tank reads a completely empty tank, even if the other is full, the computer will freak out and tell you the tank is empty. Makes sense. So far, more helpful than Z1. They also told me that when they install this kit, they don't wire it to the main fuel pump (contrary to Z1's instructions). Instead they wire the starvation pump all the way to the front of the car using a "Spal Relay kit" ($70). They said that with this kit, you can turn off the starvation pump when you're not racing so that the tank evens out and the pump isn't pulling air. I'm not much of a wiring guy, and the original wiring for the starvation kit was already a bit out of my comfort zone, so there's no way I want to mess with anything like this. Its just crazy to me that Z1's kit is dysfunctional like this with no mention of additional equipment necessary to work properly.

So I've provided the info that I found out. Do you guys know any other solutions besides wiring to the front of my car? Is the OEM metal tube that runs from 1 side of the tank to the other supposed to even out the tank when it sits overnight?

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Interesting. I had the same question to Z1 when I ordered the kit back in 2020. They said "the anti-starve kit acts like a surge tank and pulls fuel from the other side of the tank to fill the basket where the pump is housed. Eventually you will run the second pump dry but you would have to be quite literally on an empty tank to run the hydramat dry. If you street drive the car as well you can wire the secondary pump to a switch to only be used on the track."

No problems for me since the install, but I did install the CJM top hat at the same time.
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I also recently got the Z1 kit installed. Also had some weird readings after a track event. I was assuming the lines could have moved in the tank and held up the reader. Took it back to the shop and they were able to fix it. I hope I dont see anymore issues moving forward.
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Took it back to the shop and they were able to fix it.

And what exactly did they do?
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They told me the lines had moved. So they zip tied it. Its reading fine so far. So hopefully it dont have any more issues.
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I’m also having fuel level reading issues after I messed with the pump assembly. Gotta pull the pump assemblies out and zip tie things properly.


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