One thing I hate about my Z

Hot Rod 370 Z · 08-28-2019, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TobinH

i find a bit of throttle while you're releasing the clutch helps on the 1-2. all manual transmissions really, but especially this one.

i tell people when i let them drive my car, 'you kinda have to keep your foot in the gas'.

i think if the strange lag in the throttle was lessened, it would be easier to shift smoothly.

Thank all of you for your advise. Yes I have been doing most of what you all say to do on the 1st to 2nd shift and I get a clean shift about 50% of the time. Going to 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th is easy as pie. I will just keep working on it. Just needed to be sure my car was preforming as designed and you all let me know it is. I thank all of you for responding.

MZ DAIZY · 08-28-2019, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TobinH

i find a bit of throttle while you're releasing the clutch helps on the 1-2. all manual transmissions really, but especially this one.

i tell people when i let them drive my car, 'you kinda have to keep your foot in the gas'.

i think if the strange lag in the throttle was lessened, it would be easier to shift smoothly.

First thing I noticed after my tune was the shifts between 1st and 2nd became much smoother due to no throttle lag. Maybe a coincidence, don’t know, don’t care. It’s smoother through ALL gears now.

MZ DAIZY · 08-28-2019, 02:29 PM

Not to hijack your thread, but I hate the Vertical outside door handles more. Yes, I’m weird...

FPenvy · 08-28-2019, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hot Rod 370 Z

Love the car overall but, the nanny or granny 1st gear can get on ones nerves. Years ago I drove a dump truck for a construction company. Never used 1st gear unless I had a full load and needed the extra torque to get moving.
1st gear on the Z reminds me of that experience so I ask the following three questions please.
1) Anyone have this problem or is it exclusive to 2019 Z gear ratios ?
2) Anyone out there start out in 2nd gear ?
3) Does anyone find it difficult to get a smooth shift from 1st to 2nd gear ?
I have gotten used to the 1-2 shift but it does take some finesse ...

should have bought the 7AT.

better all the way around.

MZ DAIZY · 08-28-2019, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

should have bought the 7AT.

better all the way around.

Man... that’s some stinky *** bait right there!

FPenvy · 08-28-2019, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

Man... that’s some stinky *** bait right there!

TobinH · 08-28-2019, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

Not to hijack your thread, but I hate the Vertical outside door handles more. Yes, I’m weird...

haha, that's one of my favourite features. i think that's also weird...

FPenvy · 08-28-2019, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

Not to hijack your thread, but I hate the Vertical outside door handles more. Yes, I’m weird...

could be worse.

you could try constantly explaining to people how to open doors on a GTR

"see the braille? yea press in on that Helen......"

Ventruck · 08-29-2019, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TobinH

i find a bit of throttle while you're releasing the clutch helps on the 1-2. all manual transmissions really, but especially this one.

i tell people when i let them drive my car, 'you kinda have to keep your foot in the gas'.

i think if the strange lag in the throttle was lessened, it would be easier to shift smoothly.

I had a similar hunch when it comes to SRM. I'm almost certain it purposely adds more rev hang as an assist to people who shift slow. It seems like you can kinda trick it with weak throttle.

But even if that's actually true, that's such a weird habit to pick up. I mean without SRM, one could argue that slipping into 2nd can help (and technically that's the principle behind everyone's advice here), but I'm pretty sure most other cars wouldn't need such a measure.

JARblue · 08-29-2019, 10:41 AM

Any sports car with a little bit of power is going to require minor clutch slipping (which implies a little throttle input) at lower RPMs for a perfectly smooth shift.

The rev hang is totally appropriate at lower RPMs. If you'll pay attention, you'll notice SRM doesn't do it at higher RPMs. The RPMs drop quicker during a high RPM shift, so SRM doesn't hang as long, expecting a quicker shift because racecar. They drop slower at lower RPM shifts because the shift is generally slower and more deliberate for normal driving.

Hot Rod 370 Z · 08-29-2019, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue

Any sports car with a little bit of power is going to require minor clutch slipping (which implies a little throttle input) at lower RPMs for a perfectly smooth shift.

The rev hang is totally appropriate at lower RPMs. If you'll pay attention, you'll notice SRM doesn't do it at higher RPMs. The RPMs drop quicker during a high RPM shift, so SRM doesn't hang as long, expecting a quicker shift because racecar. They drop slower at lower RPM shifts because the shift is generally slower and more deliberate for normal driving.

Okay so I don't know... What is SRM please ?
Still learning about the lingo on these cars...

MZ DAIZY · 08-29-2019, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hot Rod 370 Z

Okay so I don't know... What is SRM please ?
Still learning about the lingo on these cars...

SRM = Synchronized Rev Match, which = Heel Toe.

Rated Z · 08-29-2019, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hot Rod 370 Z

Okay so I don't know... What is SRM please ?
Still learning about the lingo on these cars...

SRM is Synchro Rev Match. Since your car appears to be a base model, it does not have this feature (which would be located on the blank button top right of the gear shifter).

I can tell you changing your clutch line and fluid is a must in these cars.... it is soo easy to overheat in stock form, even in normal traffic. It is the best $50 you'll spend (plus installation of course). Buy the z1 clutch line and some rbf600 and have a mechanic install if you're unable.

Hot Rod 370 Z · 08-29-2019, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rated Z

SRM is Synchro Rev Match. Since your car appears to be a base model, it does not have this feature (which would be located on the blank button top right of the gear shifter).

I can tell you changing your clutch line and fluid is a must in these cars.... it is soo easy to overheat in stock form, even in normal traffic. It is the best $50 you'll spend (plus installation of course). Buy the z1 clutch line and some rbf600 and have a mechanic install if you're unable.

Good info on clutch fluid and yes I have a base model so I do not have the rev matching feature. Now I hope the Hurricane does not blow or wash my Z and house away lol. I love Florida but I have been through too many weather events. Getting too old for this stuff but, that being said I do not miss 90 inches of snow a year when I lived in Pa.

MZ DAIZY · 08-30-2019, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hot Rod 370 Z

Good info on clutch fluid and yes I have a base model so I do not have the rev matching feature. Now I hope the Hurricane does not blow or wash my Z and house away lol. I love Florida but I have been through too many weather events. Getting too old for this stuff but, that being said I do not miss 90 inches of snow a year when I lived in Pa.

Did you get your gas and water? Good luck! Hopefully it follows the northern coastal model

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MZ DAIZY A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,857 Drives: Miss Daisy Rep Power: 613733	Not to hijack your thread, but I hate the Vertical outside door handles more. Yes, I’m weird...