Nissan 370Z Forum  

Steering wheel lock but I pulled the fuse??

Ok so before everyone flames me, I looked through this post but nothing really applied : http://www.the370z.com/engine-drivet...heel-lock.html Some context: 8/11 : Car Battery gets changed 8/16: keyfob dies and I

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z General Area > Nissan 370Z General Discussions


Like Tree9Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-24-2019, 03:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Age: 30
Posts: 27
Drives: 11' Sport 6MT
Rep Power: 7
fechavez is on a distinguished road
Default Steering wheel lock but I pulled the fuse??

Ok so before everyone flames me, I looked through this post but nothing really applied :

Links to posts about Steering Wheel Lock

Some context:
8/11 : Car Battery gets changed

8/16: keyfob dies and I change the battery. I get steering wheel lock symptoms where the push start won’t cycle off of lock and I have the key light illuminated the left side of the panel. I was able to disconnect/reconnect the battery, put the key in the fob holder and the car turned on. Drive home with the “security indicator light” on. The one with the key in the car in the center of the dash.

8/17: I pull the wheel lock fuse because why not

8/23: I go to start the car and just nothing happened the first time I pressed the push start. Second time and the push start won’t cycle off lock or attempt to start and the key sign is illuminated. Again, just disconnected and connected the battery and it started again.

8/26: Key in the fobgina and cycles through lock->acc->on this time but as its about to turn over i get nothing or one click then all electrical input just turns off. It comes back in about a minute but then the same thing happens. Disconnect and reconnect the battery and she starts.

8/27: Key in the fobgina and same problems as yesterday to start the car. But now as im cruising to work i twice lost all electrical input for a split second(dash warning lights came on and radio turned off)
- don't think its the alternator because i've been consistently reading over 14V on the dash's gauge.


My thoughts:
No CEL
Don't think it can be steering column lock since the fuse was pulled
Car and key fob battery are both new and tested, battery putting out 12.65V and key fob battery putting out 3.042
Alternator is reading 14.45V

Last edited by fechavez; 08-27-2019 at 01:49 PM.
fechavez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2019, 08:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
SouthArk370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Arkansas
Posts: 8,435
Drives: 2014 Challenger
Rep Power: 324198
SouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

If it will start with the fob in the fobgina, it's not the ESCL. My guess is that the fob battery is bad.
wideglideleon and MZ DAIZY like this.
__________________
Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub
Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma
SouthArk370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2019, 12:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Age: 30
Posts: 27
Drives: 11' Sport 6MT
Rep Power: 7
fechavez is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z View Post
If it will start with the fob in the fobgina, it's not the ESCL. My guess is that the fob battery is bad.


Key fob battery is brand new


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
fechavez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2019, 02:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
MZ DAIZY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 1,851
Drives: Miss Daisy
Rep Power: 613733
MZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fechavez View Post
Key fob battery is brand new


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Are you sure the “new” battery is good? Right size? How about the fob itself? You have another? Try that one.

I’m just guessing here, but if it worked in the fagina, it’s not showing the classic “lock problem” especially since the fuse is pulled and it worked previously.

Have you tried grounding the pink wire?
SouthArk370Z likes this.
MZ DAIZY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2019, 03:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
SouthArk370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Arkansas
Posts: 8,435
Drives: 2014 Challenger
Rep Power: 324198
SouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fechavez View Post
Key fob battery is brand new
I didn't say the battery was old, I said it might be bad. You've never bought something and it was defective fresh out of the box?
MZ DAIZY likes this.
__________________
Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub
Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma
SouthArk370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2019, 03:51 PM   #6 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Age: 30
Posts: 27
Drives: 11' Sport 6MT
Rep Power: 7
fechavez is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY View Post
Are you sure the “new” battery is good? Right size? How about the fob itself? You have another? Try that one.

I’m just guessing here, but if it worked in the fagina, it’s not showing the classic “lock problem” especially since the fuse is pulled and it worked previously.

Have you tried grounding the pink wire?


Is being locked out still a possibility even if I pulled the fuse ?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
fechavez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2019, 03:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Age: 30
Posts: 27
Drives: 11' Sport 6MT
Rep Power: 7
fechavez is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z View Post
I didn't say the battery was old, I said it might be bad. You've never bought something and it was defective fresh out of the box?


To be honest I’m skeptical it’s defective, But I bought a 2 pack so I’ll use the other one and report back just to minimize variability.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
fechavez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2019, 04:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
MZ DAIZY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 1,851
Drives: Miss Daisy
Rep Power: 613733
MZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond reputeMZ DAIZY has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fechavez View Post
Is being locked out still a possibility even if I pulled the fuse ?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
As far as I’m concerned, yes! I think you need to look at the fob more.
MZ DAIZY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2019, 04:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
SouthArk370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Arkansas
Posts: 8,435
Drives: 2014 Challenger
Rep Power: 324198
SouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fechavez View Post
To be honest I’m skeptical it’s defective, But I bought a 2 pack so I’ll use the other one and report back just to minimize variability.
If one of the batteries in the two-pack is bad, there's a decent chance the other one is, too. Check with a voltmeter.
MZ DAIZY likes this.
__________________
Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub
Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma
SouthArk370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2019, 10:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Ga
Posts: 13,803
Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z
Rep Power: 2684392
Spooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond reputeSpooler has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Sounds like something is up with the security system having a issue recognizing the keys. Not sure what module that is off the top of my head. Do you have anything plugged into the OBDII port that uses Bluetooth. Sometimes they create interference for the intelligent key system.
Spooler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2019, 09:52 AM   #11 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Age: 30
Posts: 27
Drives: 11' Sport 6MT
Rep Power: 7
fechavez is on a distinguished road
Default

So update is that i've been putting the fob into the fobgina the past couple days just as precautionary means and I can't seem to find where my second battery is to use a another one. Well this morning, it did something again. The car cycled through "Lock" and "Acc" and as its about to crank to turn over everything just dies. No electrical response to anything. In about a minute I was able to press the push start again and it did the same thing again. Cycled through lock and acc and then just died. Disconnected + reconnected the battery and then she started right up.
fechavez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2019, 09:52 AM   #12 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Age: 30
Posts: 27
Drives: 11' Sport 6MT
Rep Power: 7
fechavez is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spooler View Post
Sounds like something is up with the security system having a issue recognizing the keys. Not sure what module that is off the top of my head. Do you have anything plugged into the OBDII port that uses Bluetooth. Sometimes they create interference for the intelligent key system.
I do not
fechavez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2019, 12:09 PM   #13 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Age: 30
Posts: 27
Drives: 11' Sport 6MT
Rep Power: 7
fechavez is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z View Post
If one of the batteries in the two-pack is bad, there's a decent chance the other one is, too. Check with a voltmeter.
Just checked it with a DMM and we're putting out 3.042 V
fechavez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2019, 12:14 PM   #14 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Age: 30
Posts: 27
Drives: 11' Sport 6MT
Rep Power: 7
fechavez is on a distinguished road
Default

I've done a lot of digging and i'm essentially having the same problem as this thread with the same model year (11 sport) and roughly the same mileage(60k)

370z delayed intermittent start failure.....

but it was last year and only said the dealer charged him 800$ for the repair but didnt specify whats wrong and hasn't replied
fechavez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2019, 12:15 PM   #15 (permalink)
Premium Member
 
SouthArk370Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Arkansas
Posts: 8,435
Drives: 2014 Challenger
Rep Power: 324198
SouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond reputeSouthArk370Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by fechavez View Post
... Disconnected + reconnected the battery and then she started right up.
Sounds like you had a corroded battery terminal connection. I'd go ahead and clean both terminals. I'd also put a very small amount of dielectric grease where the post and connector touch to lessen future corrosion - YMMV.
Probably be a good idea to check battery electrolyte levels, also.
Quote:
Originally Posted by fechavez View Post
Just checked it with a DMM and we're putting out 3.042 V
Good.
__________________
Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub
Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma
SouthArk370Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Steering wheel lock fuse pull VincentLe Nissan 370Z General Discussions 3 02-03-2018 12:14 PM
steering lock fuse pull cf370z Nissan 370Z General Discussions 10 04-04-2017 12:42 AM
How many of you have pulled the steering lock fuse? geddy lee Nissan 370Z General Discussions 154 12-29-2015 06:52 PM
So I pulled the fuse for the steering lock kennyz Exterior & Interior 4 12-25-2015 11:55 AM
Do I have the steering lock fuse? I don't want it R0bDC Engine & Drivetrain 5 01-03-2013 08:14 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2