What I would love to see (or read)...
 

How about one of these “reviewers” put their “it’s old and basic” bias on the side and actually review the car for what it is. A brand new factory warranted affordable sports car!

How come these clowns don’t start their mustang reviews with “well it’s been around for 5 years now”, blah blah blah...

Review the car on what it is, not what is was or should be! It’s passé, it’s been done to death. I get it, it’s basic.

How about you just get behind the wheel and drive the frigging thing and report on how it handles, the response, the drivetrain, you know the **** that matters for someone looking to buy one?

I don’t care about the “info center” I didn’t buy it for that!

I wish just one of you “experts” would think out of the box and review it for what it is. A basic, affordable, daily driveable sports car that can be modified cheaply due to the plethora of bolt on’s.

Since you guys are so hung up on how “old” a brand new car is, why don’t you do a review with the 2019 Z against a 5 year old mustang?

I dare you!

:iagree: and I think you just wrote 60% of the review for them :bowrofl:

I would finish the other 40%, but It’s Not my “job”. Besides, I own one, I want to hear someone else’s (unbiased) opinion.

Reviewer: I'd like to review one of your cars.
Manufacturer: Sure!
...
Reviewer writes bad review.
...
Reviewer: I'd like to review one of your cars.
Manufacturer: I'm sorry but we don't have any available at this time. (Or ever.)

Exactly. What are they reviewing that hasn’t been beaten to death already. C’mon! Think out of the box!

The only thing I got out of that review was it’s ugly. And I didn’t need them to tell me that.

I do find it amusing tho that so many people watch these “reviews”. I’ve been driving sports cars longer than these kids have been alive. Maybe I should start “reviewing”?

The whole info center complaint comes from people attracted to shiny things, I suppose. Hey look, lights, sounds, things flashing, stuff happening. The Lexus RC I looked at had all of that. What it didn't have is a manual transmission. So, skip!!

The first thing these guys say is oh look! a giant tach in the middle of the dash. That’s so cool!

Well, yea, all true sports cars have that, don’t they? It’s kind of important with a manual transmission. Not so much with those really cool paddle shifters! Oh, wait, it’s “old”

Here is my review:

The car is great. It is just slow in stock form. LMAO.

For me, most reviews are a waste of time. There are a few informative ones out there but I find most are just snobbish irrelevant biased garbage. I know & like what I like regardless of what others may say. I don't need to have someone re-affirm my decision or get butt-hurt because some jaded clown says I should "avoid the AT like the plaque" confirming his ignorance.

YMMV :cool:

My point exactly. How does he know how the AT drives? I didn’t see him test one, did you?

They have a narrative in mind before they even drive it. Then all they have to do is fit the review to the narrative.

It’s like they watch other reviewers and parrot what they’ve heard.

Every breathing, non-incarcerated human being in America has an "info center." It's called a smart phone. All in-car "info centers" do is further distract the driver into the "center" of the county coroner's exam room.

A car reviewer is just like the people who b*tch on the forum - "I want Ferrari performance and Lexus quality at Hyundai prices."


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Define slow. Toyota 86 slow?

Yeah, I don't consider the 370Z to be slow by any means. It was never meant to be a 1/4 mile car (through out its history). But 0-60 in approx. 5 seconds is not "slow" especially for a 30k car.

Regardless, it's funny how reviewers rarely complain about how slow the Mazda MX5. They just say it's a great handling sports car that does everything well, "feels" fast and how "it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow", blah, blah, blah.

Bottom line: Most car reviewers will tend to mimic and follow other reviewers and crap on anything that is not the flavour of the day, does not have enough bells and whistles and is older than 5 years.

Haters are gonna hate. IMO, the Z is in a class of its own and a luxury item. One can buy, for example, a mustang for less the money and get more power than of a Z, and the Z isn’t cheap, so essentially, you have to be able to afford a Z. Heck, some member(s) here commit insurance fraud to even drive one.

Bottom line: I love my Z and that’s what matters. I don’t give a flying f*ck about what these “reviewers”, including douche demuro, have to say.

or, stop watching or reading reviews of the Z, since all they do is rile you up?

its a ten year old car, none of this is surprising

But.. but.. what would we b*tch about on the forum then??

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I know, right?! :icon14:

My problem lies more with the reviewers than the reviews. I couldn’t care less what they say about my car, but I DO care that they are lazy and ignorant.

I know I’m old and cranky, but I’m tired of these kids telling me what’s good and what’s not. Get off my lawn!

Especially when they complain about the exhaust note and the information center...

"Info center."
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Haven't seen one of those in a loooonnnngggg time (late-60s or so).

I couldn't agree more.

When's the last time you seen a bench front seat in a car? I can't remember the last one I've seen. :icon14:

When reviewers, most, not all, step into the Z they bash it because it doesn't live up to their "standard". They drive Lambo's Ferraris, Paganis etc and so forth. If it doesn't do 0-100kph in les than 4.5 it's a slow car. But then again thats the majority of the market "WHATS YOUR 0-100 TIME BROOOO". Straight lines are for fast cars, curved lines are for fast drivers.

The Z is not a super car or hyper car, we all know that, but for what you pay for it and its class, it's the top in my eyes. Great acceleration (You can get 4.8 to 100), reliable (how many SPORTS cars meet this standard? Not many, and of course reasonably priced.

I always get asked what's your 0-100 time blah blah. I tell people look, if you want to go fast and **** on everything from Z's to Mclarens, go buy yourself R1 or another type of litre bike. Once you realize what REAL speed is you'll understand you won't push the car to what is it meant to be pushed at.

That brings me to the next point. How many of those folk who own the high end cars actually push them? Straight line gunning doesn't mean ****. Pulling it out on weekends or dragging it to a meet doesn't do the car any favors. If that's your thing, more power to you. But to get the most out of the raging bull, prancing horses, the ghost (Konnegsegg), The Flying French B and Boomerang (Mclaren) you need those cuties on the track.

With Z I can get what I want from it on the roads (when I'm in Mexico of course) and on the track. Plus I can daily it. Car reviewers try TOO hard to be witty with their remarks and of course everyone is a critic.

My cousin has a S2000, fun car, it's not the fastest, does it make it crap? No. Great in corners and great RPM range. I don't want to pay $300 + for a oil change, or 3 grand in tires, not yet anyways. Plus I', very hands on, I like to touch, that includes my car(s). I don't like cars where you open the hood you start sweating like a Lucifer in church because God forbid you accidentally breathe on something and your car doesn't work. I know, it's not that bad, but I can literally tear apart my Z's engine bay and not worry about the complexities.

If I redline my Z i know I don't have much to worry about, the other cars? BRB. . . Check engine light. Plus everytime I drive my Z at night I feel like I'm an Initial D driver.

Besides, I like the manual transmission all the clunks and what not. Reviewers can kiss my ***. Everyone has an agenda going on. You want to know someone or something? Go out there and figure them out yourself, in the flesh! Do I like exotic cars? Yeah I do. I have just come to realize that when it comes to speed there are two types of people. Those who want to go crazy fast while looking good and those who don't care how good they look when they are going fast.

Lot's of strong opinions. :-)
I like my Z, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

Have you noticed the first thing any of these “reviewers” say is it’s old and out dated?

Um... so why are you wasting everyone’s time “reviewing” it?

I have noticed that many reviewers say that it is old and updated. To me that means that I should look into it because it probably matches my taste in sports cars, since I am old and outdated. The Z is exactly what I was looking for. My decision was based on nostalgia coupled with a bit of more modern engineering (fuel injection, etc.) for reliability.
I liked my first one so much that I bought a second one! One is manual the other AT, just in case I was missing out on something.

Perfect! Build the auto as a drag car and enjoy the manual!

On my way to the golf course yesterday there was a sweet 56 Vette on the side of the road that broke down coming back from the parking lot show.

It was pretty! even sitting DOA on the side of the road.

<snicker>

I watch two channels for car reviews, and really their reviews are more live overviews. Straight Pipes and Throttle House. They've both recently had the Z on and were both pretty positive / impressed.

Love the Z to drive, but I have to say, in some aspects I agree w/ some of the reviewers at least. I think at this stage in the lifecycle of the car, I'd expect the price to have dropped somewhat. For the price (new), I don't think it's exactly a bargain in any category, whether that's performance, luxury, technology, etc. This is evident when compared to some of the current crop of sports cars in a similar price bracket, and dare I say, even compared to a 5 year old mustang.

But that's not the point of sports cars in a lot of ways. If you're buying a Z new, you wanted a Z specifically because it meant something to you. I think the argument for a used 370z is much more reasonable. A couple of known issues that can be fixed, with otherwise good reliability, solid power, good handling, good aftermarket support, and good looks.

Personally, what pushed me over towards the Z was the reliability, with the caveat that the CSC would need to be replaced eventually (which I did) and an oil cooler added for track work (which I did). The other cars are newer and they are faster and if that's all you're looking for, the Z isn't right. All that matters is that it checks the right boxes for the buyer, like it did for you or me. I guess it doesn't check the right ones for some of the reviewers, but oh well, you can't please everyone.

You lost me at Mustang. Mustangs are NOT sports cars. Just sayin’

Dude, for the price (and 460 na hp), Mustang GTs rock!

I know you have more class than that.

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Sure, mustangs aren't "true blooded" sports cars, but neither are M cars for that matter which started life as hopped up normal cars. Idk, I guess my definition of "sports car" is pretty loose. If it's fast, fun, cool, and handles well, the shoe fits. But to each their own man. Plenty of people hate mustangs because of the mustangy-ness, which I kinda get. It attracts a certain crowd, it's historically not been light, refined, or known to handle well, but IMO, the current crop of Mustangs and Camaros are really making a name for themselves. The power, the grip, the chassis, they are all pretty killer. But, like you, I will continue to enjoy the Z for the time being!

I’m not hating on the mustang. I had a 1990 convertible that I loved for 10 years. It’s just wasn’t a sports car, and still isn’t AFAIC.

Rule number one: Sports Cars have 2 seats. :tiphat:

I’m not so sure... :stirthepot:

Not really. :ugh2:

Low life uh?

You'd be amazed and thrilled with all the things you accomplish when you set the bar low enough. #expectations

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Is it beer:30 yet???

I got low friends in high places. :rofl2: