NISMO vs the gutless wonder!! 86

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-10-2019, 12:31 PM

https://youtu.be/Kcl2q_Ix2Ks

I remember watching Chris Harris take a shyt on the Zed while he sucked a lot of Toyota dyck. So I went running to 11 dealerships b4 one would give me a test drive. My first thought was.... I'm supposed to want this over my 370z? And laughed hysterically. It was the day I realized even car media has CNN syndrome. The Z us a superior car. Maybe koni shocks and Spec R springs was the tipping point that made the FRS feel like the handling wasn't as better as they claimed? The Z's problem has been its front heavy and it has slop coming out of corners. But the suspension mods greatly improve that problem.
The 86 imo is an inferior car in 4 out of 5 ways. I'm glad it exists but... Chris Harris Is the propaganda press. We dont need a CNN in the automotive world.

The Nismo is still relevant till this day.

CRiZO · 07-10-2019, 01:51 PM

I drove both back to back repeatedly while shopping around.

I legit thought something was wrong with the first 86 I drove. The power actually DROPS in the middle of the power band. I thought the clutch was slipping.

That said, for a daily commuter, the 86 is fantastic. It gets great mileage, has the maintenance costs of a Corolla, and you can toss it around like a go kart. Honestly, a lot of the time, the Z feels like too much car for city streets. I rarely get to stretch its legs outside of backroads and onramps.

They're different cars for different people.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-10-2019, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CRiZO

I drove both back to back repeatedly while shopping around.

I legit thought something was wrong with the first 86 I drove. The power actually DROPS in the middle of the power band. I thought the clutch was slipping.

That said, for a daily commuter, the 86 is fantastic. It gets great mileage, has the maintenance costs of a Corolla, and you can toss it around like a go kart. Honestly, a lot of the time, the Z feels like too much car for city streets. I rarely get to stretch its legs outside of backroads and onramps.

They're different cars for different people.

That is true. The 86 would be great in NYC where the fast you can go most days is 55? If it can absorb the potholes well?
As for power usage... I'm at 440rwhp on my camaro and j have loads of fun on the streets as I did with my Z. I believe both Z and camaro have a lot more in common than people think. And one of those things is amazing gearing. Both cars have been geared for both low speed and high speed fun. I feel they both have a special duality to them despite having a lot of power for what they both are.

The 86 is ok. It's a good little romping car. But I dont think it deserves all the hoop lah its had for years. It's funny some ways but it's mostly a gutless car. I guess j like cars with power...

MZ DAIZY · 07-10-2019, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

That is true. The 86 would be great in NYC where the fast you can go most days is 55? If it can absorb the potholes well?
As for power usage... I'm at 440rwhp on my camaro and j have loads of fun on the streets as I did with my Z. I believe both Z and camaro have a lot more in common than people think. And one of those things is amazing gearing. Both cars have been geared for both low speed and high speed fun. I feel they both have a special duality to them despite having a lot of power for what they both are.

The 86 is ok. It's a good little romping car. But I dont think it deserves all the hoop lah its had for years. It's funny some ways but it's mostly a gutless car. I guess j like cars with power...

Wait until the Supra comes out... the boy racers are gonna get in line until they find out its a $60,000 slug.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-10-2019, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

Wait until the Supra comes out... the boy racers are gonna get in line until they find out its a $60,000 slug.

Huh? A slug? I think the supra will be the car to beat. I'm almost sure of it.

AestheticCM1 · 07-10-2019, 04:09 PM

I've driven both extensively and love both, but whereas the 86 is a fun novelty, the Z is a purpose built cornering machine. If I could only have one car, it'd be the 86 due to space, mpg, and its tailhappy fun under 40mph.

MZ DAIZY · 07-10-2019, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Huh? A slug? I think the supra will be the car to beat. I'm almost sure of it.

$60,000 for 330 horse (taken at the crank) and 155 top end is a slug.

And I won’t even mention how ugly it is...

OptionZero · 07-10-2019, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AestheticCM1

I've driven both extensively and love both, but whereas the 86 is a fun novelty, the Z is a purpose built cornering machine. If I could only have one car, it'd be the 86 due to space, mpg, and its tailhappy fun under 40mph.

we should all chill a bit

CRiZO · 07-10-2019, 05:45 PM

The Z is the greatest car of all time. It's so perfect that they didn't even give it a telescoping steering wheels, because the wheel is in the optimal position for precision maneuvering.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-10-2019, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

$60,000 for 330 horse (taken at the crank) and 155 top end is a slug.

And I won’t even mention how ugly it is...

I guess you haven't seen the dyno tunes on the stock engine... it's under rated by 50hp on average. It beat the Z4 in a drag race pretty badly.

https://youtu.be/60cxIFwHJNU

MZ DAIZY · 07-10-2019, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I guess you haven't seen the dyno tunes on the stock engine... it's under rated by 50hp on average. It beat the Z4 in a drag race pretty badly.

https://youtu.be/60cxIFwHJNU

A slug beating a slower slug isn’t swaying me. My $30,000 Z will smoke both of them.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-10-2019, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

A slug beating a slower slug isn’t swaying me. My $30,000 Z will smoke both of them.

Hope you're modded cuz.... the fastest 60 time recorded on the supra is 3.8. The fastest 0-60 on a Z was 4.5seconds... the quarter for s Z is 13.1 seconds IF U DRIVE AUTO? 13.3 for manual. Its 12 seconds on a supra. I wouldn't be racing for pink's if I was you there buddy. Its great to love and prefer your car. Its another to have delusions of grandeur. Lol.

And lastly. Supra has the modding advantage. It's designed with the plumbing for easy turbo upgrades and such. The car was designed to be easily modded. In this generation of lackluster cars. The supra is a gift.

Ventruck · 07-10-2019, 09:08 PM

Yeah crapping on the Supra was so 2 weeks ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=galowNnKOl8

That's not a slug. 0-60 in supposedly 4.1 seconds. Not many cars do that, with a RWD V6.

As for the 86. I feel like that's beat to death. Each to their own and there's nothing wrong with liking it. The only annoying thing is when fanboys try to glorify it for more than it really is.

It's that excuse/sugarcoating bull**** that comes with any fanboy.
>"Derp but my 86 is lighter and funner"
>"do some mods to a Miata and it beats an S2000!"
>"get some COBB for my WRX and it's an STi!"
>"muh Golf is Euorpeein"
>"if we get an oil cooler + CSC repair + srpint booster +RJM + stiffer front swaybar our Z is proper"

I don't know when the car consumer society will learn to outgrow this stigma. In the end, yeah most of us would have Ferrari's or whatever if we could afford it. There's nothing wrong for enjoying what you have, but you don't have to go out of your way to justify your purchase.

*on a side note, pretty sure that host was totally for a ride with the artificial engine soundtrack.

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-10-2019, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ventruck

Yeah crapping on the Supra was so 2 weeks ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=galowNnKOl8

That's not a slug. 0-60 in supposedly 4.1 seconds. Not many cars do that, with a RWD V6.

As for the 86. I feel like that's beat to death. Each to their own and there's nothing wrong with liking it. The only annoying thing is when fanboys try to glorify it for more than it really is.

It's that excuse/sugarcoating bull**** that comes with any fanboy.
>"Derp but my 86 is lighter and funner"
>"do some mods to a Miata and it beats an S2000!"
>"get some COBB for my WRX and it's an STi!"
>"muh Golf is Euorpeein"
>"if we get an oil cooler + CSC repair + srpint booster +RJM + stiffer front swaybar our Z is proper"

I don't know when the car consumer society will learn to outgrow this stigma. In the end, yeah most of us would have Ferrari's or whatever if we could afford it. There's nothing wrong for enjoying what you have, but you don't have to go out of your way to justify your purchase.

*on a side note, pretty sure that host was totally for a ride with the artificial engine soundtrack.

Supra is an inline 6

Ventruck · 07-10-2019, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Supra is an inline 6

blah! crap on my part

07-10-2019, 12:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14858	NISMO vs the gutless wonder!! 86 https://youtu.be/Kcl2q_Ix2Ks I remember watching Chris Harris take a shyt on the Zed while he sucked a lot of Toyota dyck. So I went running to 11 dealerships b4 one would give me a test drive. My first thought was.... I'm supposed to want this over my 370z? And laughed hysterically. It was the day I realized even car media has CNN syndrome. The Z us a superior car. Maybe koni shocks and Spec R springs was the tipping point that made the FRS feel like the handling wasn't as better as they claimed? The Z's problem has been its front heavy and it has slop coming out of corners. But the suspension mods greatly improve that problem. The 86 imo is an inferior car in 4 out of 5 ways. I'm glad it exists but... Chris Harris Is the propaganda press. We dont need a CNN in the automotive world. The Nismo is still relevant till this day. sunkist350z, AlWakRa, Hotrodz and 6 others like this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

07-10-2019, 01:51 PM	#2 (permalink)
CRiZO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Dallas Posts: 672 Drives: in traffic Rep Power: 20699	I drove both back to back repeatedly while shopping around. I legit thought something was wrong with the first 86 I drove. The power actually DROPS in the middle of the power band. I thought the clutch was slipping. That said, for a daily commuter, the 86 is fantastic. It gets great mileage, has the maintenance costs of a Corolla, and you can toss it around like a go kart. Honestly, a lot of the time, the Z feels like too much car for city streets. I rarely get to stretch its legs outside of backroads and onramps. They're different cars for different people. wideglideleon likes this.

07-10-2019, 04:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
AestheticCM1 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 219 Drives: 2010 370z MT/ST/Navi Rep Power: 2868	I've driven both extensively and love both, but whereas the 86 is a fun novelty, the Z is a purpose built cornering machine. If I could only have one car, it'd be the 86 due to space, mpg, and its tailhappy fun under 40mph. UNKNOWN_370 and Justint5387 like this. __________________ True sports-cars have two seats. I like my cars like my women, Asian imports.

07-10-2019, 05:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
CRiZO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Dallas Posts: 672 Drives: in traffic Rep Power: 20699	The Z is the greatest car of all time. It's so perfect that they didn't even give it a telescoping steering wheels, because the wheel is in the optimal position for precision maneuvering. JARblue, Hotrodz and /Angelo350Z/ like this.

07-10-2019, 09:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ventruck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: California Posts: 785 Drives: '13 Sport+Touring M6 Rep Power: 22898	Yeah crapping on the Supra was so 2 weeks ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=galowNnKOl8 That's not a slug. 0-60 in supposedly 4.1 seconds. Not many cars do that, with a RWD V6. As for the 86. I feel like that's beat to death. Each to their own and there's nothing wrong with liking it. The only annoying thing is when fanboys try to glorify it for more than it really is. It's that excuse/sugarcoating bull**** that comes with any fanboy. >"Derp but my 86 is lighter and funner" >"do some mods to a Miata and it beats an S2000!" >"get some COBB for my WRX and it's an STi!" >"muh Golf is Euorpeein" >"if we get an oil cooler + CSC repair + srpint booster +RJM + stiffer front swaybar our Z is proper" I don't know when the car consumer society will learn to outgrow this stigma. In the end, yeah most of us would have Ferrari's or whatever if we could afford it. There's nothing wrong for enjoying what you have, but you don't have to go out of your way to justify your purchase. *on a side note, pretty sure that host was totally for a ride with the artificial engine soundtrack. nis350 and Love2Drive like this.

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