NISMO vs the gutless wonder!! 86

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-11-2019, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyber370

Yep. That’s one fast BMW!!! But I can’t get past the fake vents and weird looking roof line. There’s just something off about the way it looks.

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The vents aren't fake. That was a mistake

MZ DAIZY · 07-11-2019, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Your $30k Z would get stomped into the ground. Don't look at the horsepower. Look at the torque.

That true, didn’t look at the torque. Still not interested in a $60,000 rolling turd. How about if I put $30,000 into my $30,000 Z to make it a fair fight?

Zingston · 07-11-2019, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

That true, didn’t look at the torque. Still not interested in a $60,000 rolling turd. How about if I put $30,000 into my $30,000 Z to make it a fair fight?

Now you're talking! I'll take the Z, thank you.

Or a Corvette.

MZ DAIZY · 07-11-2019, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Zingston

Yeah dude, but that's different and many times requires alcohol. I would not suggest drinking to make the Supra look "acceptable".

There isn’t enough alcohol in this county to change my mind about the supras looks. It’s that bad.

MZ DAIZY · 07-11-2019, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zingston

Now you're talking! I'll take the Z, thank you.

Or a Corvette.

Exactly! Before I drop 60 large on the rolling turd, I’d buy the Vette and have an extra $4000 in my pocket.

MZ DAIZY · 07-11-2019, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

They dynoed 421lbs tq. That's nuts. I think a Z dynoed at around 258lbs on a stock motor. You need to put an 86 motor on top of the VQ to be in the same torque family as a supra

Where are you getting 421flb of torque? The most I’ve seen is 365. Still impressive, but not 421 impressive.

CRiZO · 07-11-2019, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The vents aren't fake. Just covered. They actually designed the vents in case you get the supra over 600hp. Then you can uncap them. The vents dont need to be open for less t hgv an 600hp. So again. The car was designed to be the real deal.

They are fake. Most go nowhere at all and have metal behind them.

AestheticCM1 · 07-11-2019, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero

we should all chill a bit

Sorry for the zealousness, the Z replaced my bmw so comparatively the Z's cornering ability is astoundingly good.

JDotCDot · 07-11-2019, 03:12 PM

I'm surprised at all the Supra hate in here!

I'm not getting one, but I won't deny that it'll be a better car than a stock Z34. My sister is getting a launch edition when it arrives later this month/next month, so I'm PUMPED to try it out.

Anyway, to get back on topic - I didn't watch the video but I agree with a lot that's being said here - 86 and 370Z (especially a Nismo) shouldn't even be compared. That's not to say one car is better than the other, but they are just in different classes it doesn't even makes sense. The only thing that have in common is that they are both Japanese RWD coupes :P

nis350 · 07-11-2019, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Hope you're modded cuz.... the fastest 60 time recorded on the supra is 3.8. The fastest 0-60 on a Z was 4.5seconds... the quarter for s Z is 13.1 seconds IF U DRIVE AUTO? 13.3 for manual. Its 12 seconds on a supra. I wouldn't be racing for pink's if I was you there buddy. Its great to love and prefer your car. Its another to have delusions of grandeur. Lol.

nis350 · 07-11-2019, 04:13 PM

don't think too many people hate the Supra here, some just thought the Z is a better car....

I like my Z, but would love to have an Supra. Lot of car for $55k.

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Originally Posted by JDotCDot

I'm surprised at all the Supra hate in here!

UNKNOWN_370 · 07-11-2019, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MZ DAIZY

Where are you getting 421flb of torque? The most I’ve seen is 365. Still impressive, but not 421 impressive.

421 was a dyno. 365 is the raing I'll find it later.

nis350 · 07-11-2019, 06:32 PM

The Supra advertised HP is way understated, but what is important is the actual performance which is very similar to the M4's that cost $20k more.

I am sure the after market tuners already have many goodies to make it even better....

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

421 was a dyno. 365 is the raing I'll find it later.

nis350 · 07-11-2019, 06:46 PM

I too replaced my e46 M3 with the 370z. Honestly, the M3 is better in all categories compared to the Z The e46 M3 motor is amazingly smooth and interior is better with the napa leather etc... Yes, I do know that the maintenace is much higher for the M3.

The main reason for the replacement was because I really like the look of the car (my 3rd Z) and it was new to me while the M3 was old at the time.

It's probably not a fair comparison as the M3's MSRP was in the $60k's

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Originally Posted by AestheticCM1

Sorry for the zealousness, the Z replaced my bmw so comparatively the Z's cornering ability is astoundingly good.

Falconquey · 07-11-2019, 09:52 PM

I think comparing the new Supra (the version everyone seems to be referring to at least) to a 30k$ Z is as ridiculous as comparing the 86 to a Nismo Z. Perhaps the real comparison price and style wise should be the Supra v Corvette.

So who's picking this Supra over a Corvette??? For starters, not I!

07-11-2019, 03:12 PM	#39 (permalink)
JDotCDot Base Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: USA Posts: 33 Drives: 16 Nismo / 18 STI Rep Power: 10	I'm surprised at all the Supra hate in here! I'm not getting one, but I won't deny that it'll be a better car than a stock Z34. My sister is getting a launch edition when it arrives later this month/next month, so I'm PUMPED to try it out. Anyway, to get back on topic - I didn't watch the video but I agree with a lot that's being said here - 86 and 370Z (especially a Nismo) shouldn't even be compared. That's not to say one car is better than the other, but they are just in different classes it doesn't even makes sense. The only thing that have in common is that they are both Japanese RWD coupes :P UNKNOWN_370, AlWakRa and Justint5387 like this.

07-11-2019, 09:52 PM	#45 (permalink)
Falconquey Track Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: PacNW Posts: 563 Drives: Bitchin' 15 Z Rep Power: 2246925	I think comparing the new Supra (the version everyone seems to be referring to at least) to a 30k$ Z is as ridiculous as comparing the 86 to a Nismo Z. Perhaps the real comparison price and style wise should be the Supra v Corvette. So who's picking this Supra over a Corvette??? For starters, not I! sx moneypit likes this.

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