Thought this day would never come, possibly selling the Z...

ChopsZ · 06-02-2019, 05:06 PM

Due to some recent events and physical issues, I may end up having to sell me Z, which I thought I would never do.

With that said, how much do you guys think I could get for it? I still have a lean on it, but that really doesn't matter at this point. I would be selling privately, NO dealers at all. It's a 2016 base 6MT with less than 18k miles on the clock.

Would I be better off selling with or without the mods? The stereo system would definitely be staying with me however.

Z1 intakes, ported/polished upper/lower intake manifolds, bored TB's by MaxBore (60mm to 65mm), Motordyne Art pipes, HKS High-Power exhaust, BC coilovers, Akebono brake upgrade, Stoptech slotted rotors and pads, SPL Titanium rear camber links, EcuTek tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ, Continental Extreme Contact DW (245/40 & 285/35), 2013 Nismo wheels with some previous curb rash NOT from me. Carbon fiber front lip, carbon fiber tach hood, Z1 M-Spec "Fairlady" shift knob, RJM v3 clutch pedal.

Many thanks in advance. And if this is posted in the wrong section, sorry.

Spartan 1771 · 06-02-2019, 05:10 PM

My personal opinion is you would be better off restoring it to factory condition and then selling it separately from all of the mods. Generally speaking, you'll make more money that way, unless you can find another enthusiast who understands the value of all of the mods you installed and wants all of them for their build.

Just my $0.02

BettyZ · 06-02-2019, 05:30 PM

Very sorry to hear this. For all things there is a season, or whatever. I agree with Spartan - if you sell with mods in car you're lucky to get 20 cents on the dollar for the mods. Revert to stock and sell the parts here. Maybe have a presale for the wonderful people who gave you advice lol

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axmea? · 06-02-2019, 06:07 PM

Sorry to hear this. Part it out and restore back to base like everyone else said.

OTW Z-Boy · 06-02-2019, 06:41 PM

Bummer to hear, I’d weigh out the options on doing the work or paying to get the aftermarket removed... if what you spend on time and costs is less than 50% off retail for the parts then there’s your reason to do it.

I’ve always been a fan of putting back to stock regardless of getting what you invested out of it better the parts go to someone who will appreciate and enjoy them rather than just an uneducated buyer.

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ChopsZ · 06-02-2019, 06:55 PM

I kind of already knew the answer as far as parting out or selling as is. The good thing is, other than wheels, I have all of the stock parts still.

I've done all the work myself with the help of one of my very good friends, so it wouldn't be a huge deal putting it back to stock. In the end, I'd just have to pay for a 4-wheel alignment and that's it, and reflash the stock tune back onto the ECU.

vtec to vvel · 06-02-2019, 07:21 PM

Advertise as base model that is better than the sports package. Just kidding. Even though we bumped heads in the past, had to bust your chops (pun intended).

Sorry to hear about your situation. Whatever you decide, good luck!

ChopsZ · 06-02-2019, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtec to vvel

Advertise as base model that is better than the sports package. Just kidding. Even though we bumped heads in the past, had to bust your chops (pun intended).

Sorry to hear about your situation. Whatever you decide, good luck!

Thank you. It does suck but I guess nothing lasts forever.

vtec to vvel · 06-02-2019, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChopsZ

Thank you. It does suck but I guess nothing lasts forever.

If you do decide to do a part-out sale, let me know. I’m in Tampa.

ChopsZ · 06-02-2019, 08:04 PM

Of course.

BettyZ · 06-02-2019, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChopsZ

Thank you. It does suck but I guess nothing lasts forever.

Except for herpes. That **** just will not go away - so I've heard..

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ChopsZ · 06-02-2019, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BettyZ

Except for herpes. That **** just will not go away - so I've heard..

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RWT · 06-02-2019, 10:20 PM

Sorry to hear of your situation.

I'll share my experience with selling modified vehicles (Jeeps).

My first one, I did as you described, saved the original parts and spent hours & hours and a lot of labor returning it to stock before selling. I did so with the belief that a modified vehicle doesn't sell for much more than a non-modified vehicle. Sold the Jeep and sold the aftermarket parts I removed. What I realized from my experience was that I didn't recoup nearly as much as I thought would from the sale of the aftermarket parts and when I factored in the time and labor (not only removing the aftermarket parts but reinstalling the OEM parts adds up and my time is valuable), I didn't really make, or save, much at all. Of course, your mileage may very.

So, with my Jeeps that followed, I didn't return them to stock, sold them modified knowing I wouldn't really make much additional money over stock on the sale. However, I sold the stock parts I removed along the way, which didn't require any additional time or labor, and made money on that end.

It's not as easy as, I payed $1200 for my aftermarket exhaust and sold it for $900. That's an over simplification that doesn't consider the value of the removed OEM parts, the time and labor associated with removal and re-install and any bump in sale price of the car as a result of the modifications.

I didn't run a spread sheet or cost analysis but I came to the conclusion that the money from the sale of the OEM parts removed, the increased sale price from the modifications (albeit not great) + the time and labor I saved by not returning the vehicles to stock, was better for me.

I am not saying my choice is the best choice, I'm just saying it works for me.

Just some thoughts.

ChopsZ · 06-02-2019, 10:27 PM

I've thought about it this way as well. And the reason I thought of this, is because the people who would most likely be interested in buying my particular car would want to have these or similar parts, and know that the parts I have chosen are quality parts. The only thing on the car that could definitely use an upgrade are the BC coilovers. They're not bad, but could be improved upon. As for the rest of the parts, you can't really get much better. Different maybe, but not better. Well, maybe if you decided to heavily track the car, I supposed the brakes could be upgraded at that point.

Ventruck · 06-03-2019, 02:28 AM

I feel like taking a shot at this forum's exchange forum for the car as-is wouldn't hurt.

Even though a stock/original car should yield more value by principal, someone here is more likely to understand how the mods can be their worthwhile. Like RWT said, some money and surely time will have to go into converting backwards.

06-02-2019, 05:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
ChopsZ Track Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Central Florida Age: 49 Posts: 965 Drives: 2016 370Z GM 6MT Rep Power: 2301	Thought this day would never come, possibly selling the Z... Due to some recent events and physical issues, I may end up having to sell me Z, which I thought I would never do. With that said, how much do you guys think I could get for it? I still have a lean on it, but that really doesn't matter at this point. I would be selling privately, NO dealers at all. It's a 2016 base 6MT with less than 18k miles on the clock. Would I be better off selling with or without the mods? The stereo system would definitely be staying with me however. Z1 intakes, ported/polished upper/lower intake manifolds, bored TB's by MaxBore (60mm to 65mm), Motordyne Art pipes, HKS High-Power exhaust, BC coilovers, Akebono brake upgrade, Stoptech slotted rotors and pads, SPL Titanium rear camber links, EcuTek tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ, Continental Extreme Contact DW (245/40 & 285/35), 2013 Nismo wheels with some previous curb rash NOT from me. Carbon fiber front lip, carbon fiber tach hood, Z1 M-Spec "Fairlady" shift knob, RJM v3 clutch pedal. Many thanks in advance. And if this is posted in the wrong section, sorry. __________________ She's For Sale! PERFORMANCE: Aero Workz \| Akebono \| BC Racing \| EcuTek \| HKS \| MaxBore \| Motordyne \| Nismo \| RJM \| SPL \| StopTech \| Z1 AUDIO: Arc Audio \| Bazooka \| Helix \| Pioneer \| Stereo Integrity

06-02-2019, 05:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
Spartan 1771 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Western Maryland Posts: 1,280 Drives: Wife crazy & 09 370Z Rep Power: 105454	My personal opinion is you would be better off restoring it to factory condition and then selling it separately from all of the mods. Generally speaking, you'll make more money that way, unless you can find another enthusiast who understands the value of all of the mods you installed and wants all of them for their build. Just my $0.02 JARblue, Rusty, axmea? and 6 others like this. __________________ ~Rob -DD Air Guide, Stillen G3 CAIs, 63mm Throttle Bodies, Motordyne M370, Berk HFCs, FI TDX CBE (non-res, CF), Sprint booster v3, Ecutek Dyno Tuned, and the list goes on...

06-02-2019, 05:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
BettyZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Chicagoland Age: 37 Posts: 5,261 Drives: A Garage Queen Rep Power: 2684371	Very sorry to hear this. For all things there is a season, or whatever. I agree with Spartan - if you sell with mods in car you're lucky to get 20 cents on the dollar for the mods. Revert to stock and sell the parts here. Maybe have a presale for the wonderful people who gave you advice lol Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Spartan 1771, Rusty, ChopsZ and 1 others like this. __________________ '14 MB Nismo \| Boost Lab 6870 1.32 AR 553 HP / 471 ft.-lbs. Betty Mods

06-02-2019, 06:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
axmea? A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: SoCal Posts: 6,235 Drives: WELL ZED PW 6MT Rep Power: 53241	Sorry to hear this. Part it out and restore back to base like everyone else said. Rusty, ChopsZ and ZontheRocks like this. __________________ >MyZ's Album< NISMO Convert/ECUTEK/Takeda CAI/F.I. HFC NR CB Carbon/F.I. 34 Row Oil Cooler/4.08 Final Drive /Powertrix+Swifts/Hotchkis/SPL/Whiteline/TWM/Zoom Engineering/EVO-R/AeroJacket Vented CF Fenders + CF Spoiler/Avant Garde-WORK/NST/Morimoto Halo/STi Clear Lenses/Carbon Signal Automotive/RJM Performance/ZSpeed Clutch Flywheel CSC delete

06-02-2019, 06:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
OTW Z-Boy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Temecula Ca Posts: 1,225 Drives: 14 Nismo 370z #495 Rep Power: 750	Bummer to hear, I’d weigh out the options on doing the work or paying to get the aftermarket removed... if what you spend on time and costs is less than 50% off retail for the parts then there’s your reason to do it. I’ve always been a fan of putting back to stock regardless of getting what you invested out of it better the parts go to someone who will appreciate and enjoy them rather than just an uneducated buyer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Spartan 1771, ChopsZ and ZontheRocks like this. __________________ 2014: Nismo 370z #495 Magnetic Black - Stillen Gen3 CAI \| SPL F/R Camber Arms \| HKS Hypermax IV \| JDM Rear Fog Light \|GT-R Push Start Button \| Z1 2 Piece D/S \| Illuminated Kicks \| Tommykaira \| Work VS-XX BKB Step Lip +23/+13 19" 9.5/11 \| Fast Intentions RHFC TDX CBE 12" CF \| EcuTek

06-02-2019, 06:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
ChopsZ Track Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Central Florida Age: 49 Posts: 965 Drives: 2016 370Z GM 6MT Rep Power: 2301	I kind of already knew the answer as far as parting out or selling as is. The good thing is, other than wheels, I have all of the stock parts still. I've done all the work myself with the help of one of my very good friends, so it wouldn't be a huge deal putting it back to stock. In the end, I'd just have to pay for a 4-wheel alignment and that's it, and reflash the stock tune back onto the ECU. Spartan 1771 likes this. __________________ She's For Sale! PERFORMANCE: Aero Workz \| Akebono \| BC Racing \| EcuTek \| HKS \| MaxBore \| Motordyne \| Nismo \| RJM \| SPL \| StopTech \| Z1 AUDIO: Arc Audio \| Bazooka \| Helix \| Pioneer \| Stereo Integrity

06-02-2019, 07:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
vtec to vvel A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: 813 Posts: 3,915 Drives: 13 Z Rep Power: 502909	Advertise as base model that is better than the sports package. Just kidding. Even though we bumped heads in the past, had to bust your chops (pun intended). Sorry to hear about your situation. Whatever you decide, good luck! ChopsZ likes this. __________________ Don't like what I post? Too bad. I really don't give a sh!t

06-02-2019, 08:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
ChopsZ Track Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Central Florida Age: 49 Posts: 965 Drives: 2016 370Z GM 6MT Rep Power: 2301	Of course. __________________ She's For Sale! PERFORMANCE: Aero Workz \| Akebono \| BC Racing \| EcuTek \| HKS \| MaxBore \| Motordyne \| Nismo \| RJM \| SPL \| StopTech \| Z1 AUDIO: Arc Audio \| Bazooka \| Helix \| Pioneer \| Stereo Integrity

06-02-2019, 10:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
RWT Base Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: SE Georgia Posts: 10 Drives: 13 Nissan 370Z T Rep Power: 6	Sorry to hear of your situation. I'll share my experience with selling modified vehicles (Jeeps). My first one, I did as you described, saved the original parts and spent hours & hours and a lot of labor returning it to stock before selling. I did so with the belief that a modified vehicle doesn't sell for much more than a non-modified vehicle. Sold the Jeep and sold the aftermarket parts I removed. What I realized from my experience was that I didn't recoup nearly as much as I thought would from the sale of the aftermarket parts and when I factored in the time and labor (not only removing the aftermarket parts but reinstalling the OEM parts adds up and my time is valuable), I didn't really make, or save, much at all. Of course, your mileage may very. So, with my Jeeps that followed, I didn't return them to stock, sold them modified knowing I wouldn't really make much additional money over stock on the sale. However, I sold the stock parts I removed along the way, which didn't require any additional time or labor, and made money on that end. It's not as easy as, I payed $1200 for my aftermarket exhaust and sold it for $900. That's an over simplification that doesn't consider the value of the removed OEM parts, the time and labor associated with removal and re-install and any bump in sale price of the car as a result of the modifications. I didn't run a spread sheet or cost analysis but I came to the conclusion that the money from the sale of the OEM parts removed, the increased sale price from the modifications (albeit not great) + the time and labor I saved by not returning the vehicles to stock, was better for me. I am not saying my choice is the best choice, I'm just saying it works for me. Just some thoughts. OTW Z-Boy, CMadison, Spooler and 1 others like this. __________________ RWT 2013 370Z Touring/Sport, Magnetic Black, 6MT, Stillen Gen 3 intake, Ark GRiP exhaust.

06-02-2019, 10:27 PM	#14 (permalink)
ChopsZ Track Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Central Florida Age: 49 Posts: 965 Drives: 2016 370Z GM 6MT Rep Power: 2301	I've thought about it this way as well. And the reason I thought of this, is because the people who would most likely be interested in buying my particular car would want to have these or similar parts, and know that the parts I have chosen are quality parts. The only thing on the car that could definitely use an upgrade are the BC coilovers. They're not bad, but could be improved upon. As for the rest of the parts, you can't really get much better. Different maybe, but not better. Well, maybe if you decided to heavily track the car, I supposed the brakes could be upgraded at that point. __________________ She's For Sale! PERFORMANCE: Aero Workz \| Akebono \| BC Racing \| EcuTek \| HKS \| MaxBore \| Motordyne \| Nismo \| RJM \| SPL \| StopTech \| Z1 AUDIO: Arc Audio \| Bazooka \| Helix \| Pioneer \| Stereo Integrity

06-03-2019, 02:28 AM	#15 (permalink)
Ventruck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: California Posts: 785 Drives: '13 Sport+Touring M6 Rep Power: 22898	I feel like taking a shot at this forum's exchange forum for the car as-is wouldn't hurt. Even though a stock/original car should yield more value by principal, someone here is more likely to understand how the mods can be their worthwhile. Like RWT said, some money and surely time will have to go into converting backwards. ChopsZ likes this. Last edited by Ventruck; 06-03-2019 at 02:31 AM.

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